Subject: FAQ: Qualification and Seeding for the European Cups From: martin@inferenzsysteme.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Martin Protzen) Date: 13 Aug 93 17:13:57 Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer Now that a discussion about the European Coefficients has been started, I thought I let you know how the official classification of UEFA is. Fair or not, this time UEFA decided to include preliminary rounds. And this after they decided not to include them only the year before ... What is going to happen next year ? Taken from UEFA information No. 416 / June 1993 (translation by me, sorry): > The classification to determine the number of berths for UEFA-Cup had been > published in UEFA information No. 415 in February 1993. This classification > did not list Yugoslavia, which is banned from international activities but > nevertheless is a member association of UEFA and therefore occupies a rank in > this classification. Additionally, preliminary games were not included. See > below the corrected classification which is valid for the UEFA-Cup 93/94. > ... Then a table which lists the five year totals is given. Countries which did not participate in last year's EC3 have an asterix which means that they were excluded from this year's EC3. That seems to be the reason that Ukraina and Slovenia are the only new countries allowed into EC3, and why Albania and Wales are excluded. No total is given for Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Estonia, Slovenia, Faroe Islands, Ukraine and Israel whatever that will mean for the future. I have updated my tables to reflect UEFA's newest scoring system. Find below three tables: - a table including the 91/92 season. This has been used to determine the number of berths for EC3 for this upcoming season. The last column contains the five year total and is the same as in UEFA's offical classification. - a table including the 92/93 season which should be used to determine next years' berths. But I'm pretty sure that they will change their system ... - a partial table which is intended to include the results from the upcoming competition and could be used for the 95/96 allocation of berths. ================================================================================ OVERALL CLASSIFICATION FOR 5 SEASONS (1987/88 - 1991/92) Place Place Total Total Pts 1 Pts 2 Pts 3 Pts Pts Pts Pts Club Coef Total Name 86-90 86-90 87/90 round round UEFA qf sf EC1 fin beg. 91/92 87-91 + pq -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 Ita 1 48.17 42.17 15 11+3 7+2 9+2 3+1 8+1 2 6 10.666 52.83 2 Ger 2 43.59 35.59 20 14+1 0 3+1 2+1 - 2 6 7.333 42.92 3 Esp 3 38.66 31.26 15 13+3 2+1 5+1 2 9+1 2 6 9.000 40.26 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4 Bel 5 34.43 29.63 11 10+3 3+1 3+1 2 6 - 5 8.000 37.63 5 Fra 4 34.65 30.45 17 9+1 - 3+1 2+1 - 0 5 6.800 37.25 6 Hol 8 26.15 18.90 14 7+1 4+1 6+2 5+1 - 2 5 8.600 27.50 7 Por 7 29.96 21.96 15 5+2 - - - 5 - 5 5.400 27.36 8 Rus 6 30.16 21.66 10 5 1 - - - - 4 4.000 25.66 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9 Yug 10 24.46 20.26 9 4+2 - - - 6 - 4 5.250 25.51 10 Rum 11 24.30 21.80 7 4 - - - - - 4 2.750 24.55 11 Cze 16 14.60 12.00 11 7+2 4+1 1 - 6 - 4 8.000 20.00 12 Sco 9 24.50 17.50 7 2 - - - - - 4 2.250 19.75 13 Eng 19 12.50 12.50 9+4 7+1 4+1 1 - - - 4 6.750 19.25 14 Aut 12 21.00 15.75 5+0 4 - - - - - 4 2.250 18.00 15 Den 14 15.74 12.41 6+4 3 3+1 0 - - - 4 4.250 16.66 16 Gre 18 13.00 10.75 10 6+2 1 - - 4 - 4 5.750 16.50 17 Tur 21 11.66 9.33 8 6+1 1 1 - - - 3 5.666 15.00 18 Sui 15 15.00 11.00 9 4 2 - - - - 4 3.750 14.75 19 Pol 17 14.25 10.50 5 0 - - - - - 3 1.667 12.16 20 Swe 13 17.60 10.10 7 1 - - - - - 4 2.000 12.10 21 Hun 23 10.25 8.50 10 2 - - - - - 4 3.000 11.50 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22 Bul 20 12.42 9.16 5 0 - - - - - 4 1.250 10.41 23 Fin 22 10.41 8.75 4 1 - - - - - 4 1.250 10.00 24 Alb 24 9.00 6.66 3 - - - - - - 3 1.000 7.66 25 Ice 27 4.00 4.00 3 - - - - - - 3 1.000 5.00 Nor 25 5.00 4.66 1 - - - - - - 3 .333 5.00 27 Cyp 26 4.66 3.00 3 0 - - - - - 3 1.000 4.00 28 Nir 28 3.66 2.66 2 - - - - - - 3 .667 3.33 29 Ire 29 1.99 1.99 2+0 - - - - - - 3 .667 2.66 30 Mal 31 1.66 1.66 1 - - - - - - 3 .333 2.00 31 Lux 29 1.99 1.66 0 - - - - - - 3 .000 1.66 ================================================================================ OVERALL CLASSIFICATION FOR 5 SEASONS (1988/89 - 1992/93) Place Place Total Total Pts 1 Pts Pts 3 Pts Pts Pts Pts Club Coef Total Name 86-90/ 87-91 88-91 round 2nd UEFA qf sf EC1 fin beg 92/93 88-92 87-91 (pq.) round -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 Ita 1/ 1 52.83 46.66 21 14+3 6+2 7+2 6+2 12+1 6 6 13.66 60.33 2 Fra 4/ 5 37.25 29.25 16 11+2 5+2 4+2 2 9+1 2 5 11.20 40.45 3 Ger 2/ 2 42.92 34.26 19 8 2+1 2+1 2+1 - 0 7 5.14 39.40 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4 Esp 3/ 3 40.26 30.46 14 10+1 6+1 5+1 2 - - 6 6.66 37.13 5 Bel 5/ 4 37.63 28.23 14 12+3 3 2+1 2+1 5 0 5 8.60 36.83 6 Rus 6/ 8 25.66 22.00 11 12+3 1 4+1 2 2 - 4 9.00 31.00 7 Por 7/ 7 27.36 21.20 15 8+2 3+1 2 - 5 - 5 7.20 28.40 8 Hol 8/ 6 27.50 18.30 15 12+3 4+1 2 - 1 - 5 7.60 25.90 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9 Yug 10/ 9 25.51 22.91 - - - - - - - 0 - 22.91 10 Eng 19/13 19.25 19.25 12 1 - - - - - 4 3.25 22.50 11 Rum 11/10 24.55 19.75 6 3+1 - 2 - - - 5 2.40 22.15 12 Cze 16/11 20.00 14.50 13 6+1 0 1 - - - 4 5.25 19.75 Sco 9/12 19.75 14.95 10 4+2 - - - 8 - 5 4.80 19.75 14 Tur 21/17 15.00 14.00 11 6 2 - - - - 4 4.75 18.75 15 Aut 12/14 18.00 16.00 7 4 - - - - - 5 2.20 18.20 16 Gre 18/16 16.50 13.25 8 6+1 - 1 - - - 4 4.00 17.25 17 Den 14/15 16.66 13.33 9 2 - - - - - 4 2.75 16.08 18 Sui 15/18 14.75 12.00 9 5 - - - - - 4 3.50 15.50 19 Swe 13/20 12.10 10.10 7 4+2 - - - 6 - 4 4.75 14.85 20 Pol 17/19 12.16 10.66 6 0 - - - - - 4 1.50 12.16 21 Bul 20/22 10.41 9.16 6 - - - - - - 4 1.50 10.66 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22 Hun 23/21 11.50 8.00 5 0 - - - - - 3 1.66 9.66 23 Fin 22/23 10.00 5.66 3 - - - - - - 3 1.00 6.66 24 Ice 27/25 5.00 4.00 1 - - - - - - 3 0.33 4.33 Alb 24/24 7.66 4.33 - - - - - - - 0 - 4.33 26 Cyp 26/27 4.00 3.00 2 - - - - - - 3 0.66 3.66 Nor 25/25 5.00 2.66 3 (0) - - - - - - 2(3) 1.00 3.66 Ukr - - - 4 (7) 0 - - - - - 3 3.66 3.66 29 Nir 28/28 3.33 2.33 3 - - - - - - 3 1.00 3.33 30 Ire 29/29 2.66 2.00 1 (1) - - - - - - 2(3) 0.66 2.66 Mal 31/30 2.00 2.00 0 (2) - - - - - - 1(3) 0.66 2.66 32 Lux 29/31 1.66 1.00 1 (3) - - - - - - 3 1.33 2.33 33 Sln - - - 0 (6) - - - - - - 3 2.00 2.00 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wal - 9.00 7.00 1 - - - - - - 1 1.00 8.00 Isr - - - 2 (8) - - - - - - 2 5.00 5.00 Lat - - - 1 (4) - - - - - - 1 5.00 5.00 Far - - - - (1) - - - - - - 0(2) 0.50 0.50 Lit - - - 0 - - - - - - 1 0.00 0.00 Est - - - - (0) - - - - - - 0(1) 0.00 0.00 Lie - - - - (0) - - - - - - 0(1) 0.00 0.00 Geo - - - - - - - - - - 0 - - Cro - - - - - - - - - - 0 - - - Countries in the last section were not admitted to EC3 (and will not be in the near future). - Yugoslavia, Croatia, Albania and Georgia were regarded "unsafe", so they were excluded for 92/93. - Places of the former USSR (3) were given to Russia (2) and Ukraina (1). Two spots of Yugoslavia, one of Albania and two spots left open by the former GDR were given to Slovenia and to the countries ranking 10 - 12 (Scotland, Romania, Austria) and Turkey. ================================================================================ OVERALL CLASSIFICATION FOR 5 SEASONS (incomplete) (1989/90 - 1993/94) Place Place Total Total Pts 1 Pts Pts Pts Pts Pts Pts Club Coef Total Name 87-91/ 88-92 89-92 round 2nd 3 rd qf EC1 sf fin beg/ 93/94 89-93 88-92 (pq.) round UEFA rem -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 Ita 1/ 1 60.33 48.16 7/7 48.16 2 Fra 5/ 2 40.45 36.95 5/5 36.95 3 Bel 4/ 5 36.83 31.00 5/5 31.00 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4 Ger 2/ 3 39.40 30.97 6/6 30.97 5 Rus 8/ 6 31.00 28.50 5/5 28.50 6 Esp 3/ 4 37.13 27.32 6/6 27.32 7 Por 7/ 7 28.40 24.00 5/5 24.00 8 Eng 13/10 22.50 22.50 4/4 22.50 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9 Hol 6/ 8 25.90 21.65 5/5 21.65 10 Cze 11/12 19.75 18.50 6/6 18.50 11 Yug 9/ 9 22.91 17.91 - 17.91 12 Aut 14/15 18.20 15.80 4/4 15.80 13 Gre 16/16 17.25 15.00 4/4 15.00 14 Sco 12/12 19.75 14.75 5/5 14.75 15 Tur 17/14 18.75 14.07 4/4 14.07 16 Sui 18/18 15.50 13.25 4/4 13.25 17 Rum 10/11 22.15 12.90 5/5 12.90 18 Den 15/17 16.08 11.41 4/4 11.41 19 Swe 20/19 14.85 11.25 4/4 11.25 20 Pol 19/20 12.16 9.66 2/2 9.66 21 Bul 22/21 10.66 7.41 4/4 7.41 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22 Hun 21/22 9.66 6.91 4/4 6.91 23 Fin 23/23 6.66 4.00 3/3 4.00 24 Cyp 27/26 3.66 3.66 3/3 3.66 Ukr -/26 3.66 3.66 3/3 3.66 26 Ice 25/24 4.33 3.33 3/3 3.33 Alb 24/24 4.33 3.33 2/2 3.33 28 Nor 25/26 3.66 2.66 3/3 2.66 29 NIr 28/29 3.33 2.33 3/3 2.33 Ire 29/30 2.66 2.33 3/3 2.33 Lux 31/32 2.33 2.33 3/3 2.33 32 Sln -/33 2.00 2.00 3/3 2.00 33 Mal 30/30 2.66 1.66 3/3 1.66 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wal - 8.00 5.00 2/2 5.00 Isr - 5.00 5.00 2/2 5.00 Lat - 5.00 5.00 2/2 5.00 Far - 0.50 0.50 2/2 0.50 Lit - 0.00 0.00 2/2 0.00 Est - 0.00 0.00 2/2 0.00 Lie - 0.00 0.00 1/1 0.00 Geo - - - 1/1 0.00 Cro - - - 2/2 0.00 Mol - - - 1/1 0.00 Blo - - - 2/2 0.00 - the countries in the bottom section were not allowed into EC3, Yugoslavia was completely banned. - Albania was not allowed into EC3 because they did not participate in 92/93, Polish clubs were disallowed because of cheating in the national championship. The available spots were given to the countries ranking 9 - 11 (Rumania, Czechoslovakia and Scotland). - Italy (for winning last year's CWC) and Czechoslovakia (for the Czech Republic *and* for Slovakia) have two entrants into the CWC. - Georgia and Moldova only compete in the CC, Liechtenstein only in the CWC. - Abbreviations: Sln-Slovenia, Blo-Belorussia, Mol-Moldavia, Slk-Slovakia. ================================================================================ Explanation of ranking system: ------------------------------ Each country gets two points per win, one for a draw of its participating teams. Plus one extra point per team reaching the quarter final, the semi final and the final - in EC1 two points for reaching the final poules plus one for reaching the final. Achieved points are divided by number of participating teams of the respective country. The distribution then is rank 1 - 3: 4 clubs, 4 - 8: 3, 9 - 21: 2 and 22 - 32: 1 club in two years. Extra spots will be allocated to the countries ranked 9th and below. ================================================================================ Differences if including resp. not including preliminary rounds Just to give the facts ... judge on your own. Given is the ratio points/teams for (*) including and (**) not including preliminary rounds. (*) (**) difference 87/88 Cyp 3/3 3/2 + 0.50 Cze 22/4 18/4 - 1.00 88/89 Nor 3/3 1/2 - 0.50 Hun 11/4 9/4 - 0.50 89/90 Bul 10/3 8/2 + 0.66 Alb 6/3 4/3 - 0.66 Fra 46/5 44/5 - 0.40 Yug 20/5 18/4 + 0.50 90/91 Ire 3/3 2/2 0.00 Tur 10/3 7/3 - 1.00 91/92 Aut 9/4 9/3 + 0.75 Eng 27/4 23/4 - 1.00 Irl 2/3 2/2 + 0.33 Den 17/4 13/4 - 1.00 92/93 Nor 3/3 3/2 + 0.50 Ukr 11/3 4/3 - 2.66 Ire 2/3 1/2 - 0.16 Mal 2/3 0/1 - 0.66 Lux 4/3 1/3 - 1.00 Sln 6/3 0/3 - 2.00 Isr 10/2 2/2 - 4.00 Lat 5/1 1/1 - 4.00 Far 1/2 0/0 - 0.50 Est 0/1 0/0 0.00 Lie 0/1 0/0 0.00 Enjoy - Martin. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Martin Protzen Department of Computer Science Technical University of Darmstadt Germany