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| Intertoto 2006 | |
| Author: bert.kassies
Date: 21-09-2005, 11:05 | Does anyone have any recent information on the possible change of the Intertoto 2006 format with respect to the qualification for the UEFA Cup? If possible please post links in this topic. In March 2005 uefadirect mentioned that the New UEFA Intertoto Cup format? question was discussed at the UEFA European Club Forum (see also Sunday Herald article). Since then I did not see any uefa.com articles on this subject. The subject is not referred in the last meeting of the European Club Forum. Or it must be hidden in the very general statement that "the board of the European Club Forum and UEFA's administration find a common way forward ". In the past Rosenborg showed that the UEFA European Club Forum is a good platform to initiate changes in European football. |
| Re: Intertoto 2006 | |
| Author: isidromv
Date: 21-09-2005, 11:40 | See this article from uefa.com. In summary: "... it's possible that from next season the format will change, subject to the UEFA Executive Committee decision to be taken in September." |
| Re: Intertoto 2006 | |
| Author: bert.kassies
Date: 21-09-2005, 14:07 | Thanks for feedback. The Executive Committee meets at 21/22 september 2005. See Rome date for EXCO, where it is almost hidden in the last sentence: "The gathering at the Westin Excelsior Hotel in the Italian capital will also see UEFA's most senior figures deliberating on the format of the UEFA Intertoto Cup, regulations for the 2006/07 UEFA European Under-21 Championship and the organisation of referee education at national levels.". So, probably today or tomorrow, we will learn more. Nice qualification: "most senior figures "  |
| Re: Intertoto 2006 | |
| Author: playtony
Date: 21-09-2005, 21:41 | Hmm, 49 teams, 1 from each country, 3 rounds, 11 UEFA Cup participiants. And what is going to be format? I was a little bit calculating, and this is one possibility: 1. round: 10 teams (ranking 41-50) 2. round: 5 winners from first round + 39 teams (ranking 1-39) 3. round: 22 winners from second round. |
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| Author: Forza-AZ
Date: 21-09-2005, 21:52 | That's an unlikely small amount in round 1. Maybe some teams start directly in round 3 like it was now. Assume that amount stays 8: round 1: 26 round 2: 15 + 13 winners round 1 round 3: 8 + 14 winners round 2 |
| Re: Intertoto 2006 | |
| Author: bert.kassies
Date: 21-09-2005, 22:01 | So, it's been decided. See New Intertoto format on the way. 11 Intertoto teams enter the 2nd qualifying round of the UEFA Cup. Currently UC-QR2 involves 64 teams: 28 winners from 1st qualifying round 14 Cup Winners from countries ranked 11-24 9 second-placed teams from countries ranked 16-24 13 third-placed teams from countries ranked 9-21 What changes will be made? |
| Re: Intertoto 2006 | |
| Author: bert.kassies
Date: 21-09-2005, 22:26 Edited by: bert.kassies at: 21-09-2005, 23:18 | My first guess:1st Qualifying Round (66 teams): 2nd Qualifying Round (70 teams): Round 1 (80 teams): |
| Re: Intertoto 2006 | |
| Author: bert.kassies
Date: 22-09-2005, 08:41 | So, the format will be something like this:
It will not take long until someone gets the idea to simplify the system into 3 qualifying rounds for the UEFA Cup, just like the Champions League. |
| Re: Intertoto 2006 | |
| Author: Ricardo
Date: 22-09-2005, 10:10 | Bert, you assume that the top-countries won't lose their direct qualified teasm. I agree with that as the most likely. Though this way the burden is completely on the smaller countries: first 10 teams has to play 1 more qualification round, and after that they even have to play better teams, as most likely top 15 teams qualify. There must also be some burden on top teams. 1 possibilty: nr 7&8 lose 1 direct spot for Round 1: Then we get: Q1: 62 teams, Q2: 31 winners from Q1 + 43 teams(inc. IC) R1: 37 winners from Q2 + 27 direct qualified 2nd possibility: countries 1-8 lose 1 direct qualification spot: Q1: 50 teams Q2: 25 winners from Q1 + 61 teams(inc. IC) R1: 43 winners from Q2 + 21 direct qualified Another issue I'm wondering about is the replacement of countries that do not want to participate - how will this be arranged (draw, highest on the ranking) and how the draw will be. If top-5 teams start in Round 3 of IC and then only have to play 1 tie to some bottom-10 team, then it's almost a free ticket to UC. I hope no teams are directly qualified for IC-Round 3. Probaly it will stay like it is now. Ofcourse KNVB (dutch FA) has a big problem now. They have play-offs fighting for 3 IC tickets. Only 1, maybe 2 are available. |
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| Author: Igelrock
Date: 22-09-2005, 11:36 | This may be a stupid question. But why 11 teams from Intertoto. What teams will be replaced taht normally would have been there through UEFA Qualification? |
| Re: Intertoto 2006 | |
| Author: Forza-AZ
Date: 22-09-2005, 11:53 | @Igelrock No teams will be replaced, but some teams have to start one round earlier in UEFA-cup. In the example above 10 teams have to start already in QR1 in stead of QR2. |
| Re: Intertoto 2006 | |
| Author: Ricardo
Date: 22-09-2005, 11:55 | Current seeding/non-seeding coefficient lies around 7 in Q2. This means that any team from a top-15 country will be seeded in Q2, if it enters via Intertoto. That means that, when seeded teams make it to Round 1, 10-11 Intertoto teams make it to Round 1 in stead of current 3. Thus 8 lower ranked teams will NOT make it. We already see now that a lot, this year 21, countries don't make it through the qualification rounds. After this change, another 5-8 will be added to that. That means that only 25 countries will take part in the 'real' tournament. I don't like it We are already complaining that there is a wide gap between 8 and 9( 4 and 6 participants), now that top 8 will get again a big chance(direct in IC-round 3) of getting another team in. And guess where the free spots(of not participating counties) will end up. Isn't it fantastic to have a Newcastle-Valencia in the mid-summer? |
| Re: Intertoto 2006 | |
| Author: Forza-AZ
Date: 22-09-2005, 11:56 Edited by: Forza-AZ at: 22-09-2005, 11:57 | Ofcourse KNVB (dutch FA) has a big problem now. They have play-offs fighting for 3 IC tickets. Only 1, maybe 2 are available. Indeed the play-off's between numbers 10-13 become obsolete if there is only 1 Intertoto-spot. When the Netherlands still get a 2nd spot, then they can let the numbers 10-13 play for the 2nd spot. First spot will go to loser of 3rd round play-off (or loser of 2nd round play-off from numbers 6-9 if both Cupfinalists are in top 5 or in 3rd round play-off). |
| Re: Intertoto 2006 | |
| Author: Ricardo
Date: 22-09-2005, 12:01 | I would find it very unfair if 10-13 play for the second IC-ticket. Above them ended 9 teams of which 6(when inluding Cupwinner-spot) go to CL/UC and 1 got the other ticket. It means 2 teams got nothing. |
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| Author: Heero
Date: 22-09-2005, 12:05 | When will this changes be made? This summer? Or the summer of 2007? |
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| Author: Nick
Date: 22-09-2005, 13:05 Edited by: Nick at: 22-09-2005, 13:07 | I don't believe any country will fail to participate with this format if Intertoto. Currently bulgarian teams are not willing to take part mainly because most of them don't see a chance to get a UEFA Cup spot. With 11 UEFA Cup spots and only 3 rounds to go it is much more realistic to make it through, so interest in IT will rise dramatically. On a second thought changes in the UEFA Cup won't be that dramatical for Top 20 countries! Seeding barrier will rise a bit but not dramatically because you only have 1 teams from the Top 5 championships coming along. And the 5th places is Scotland for example is not exactly the team to fear i guess |
| Re: Intertoto 2006 | |
| Author: kurt
Date: 22-09-2005, 13:09 | This is the worst construction i have ever known Clubs from the top 8 must only play 2 matches for getting an uefacupticket, that is rediculous, that is not a tournament, that is a free ticket. The big five, has it done again. Write it down every year eacht of the big five has an extra team in uefacup. And starting in round 2 qualifying ? this is killing the small and middle teams, almost every intertotowinner will be seeded even in round 1 uefacup, and now in qualifying round 11 winners ? if it was 5 oke and the minimum should be 2 rounds playing for every club. This is crap, no tournament, free ticket, i hate it |
| Re: Intertoto 2006 | |
| Author: Nick
Date: 22-09-2005, 13:15 Edited by: Nick at: 22-09-2005, 13:16 | kurt: Another Intertoto schedule is possible: R1: 10 teams from countries ranked 40-49 R2: 5 winners of R1 + all other teams! R3: 22 winners of R2. So every team exept the 10 of R1 has 4 games to play. |
| Re: Intertoto 2006 | |
| Author: SHEV
Date: 22-09-2005, 14:14 | I think it is great decision. It'll surely make UEFA cup stronger and probably we won't see teams in GS that finish with goal difference 1-16. But what about regional grouping in UCQ2? |
| Re: Intertoto 2006 | |
| Author: Forza-AZ
Date: 22-09-2005, 14:41 | @SHEV I think regional grouping will still be the case in QR2, allthough it's now almost impossible to predict the grouping before the 11 Intertoto-teams are known. |
| Re: Intertoto 2006 | |
| Author: Ricardo
Date: 22-09-2005, 15:15 | 3rd round Intertoto was reasonable(80%) predictable this year. In round 1 the last(nr30-40) teams would have chance of losing their seeded position because of higher coefficents being entered via Intertoto. That means: Grasshopper, Genk, Brondby, Steaua Boekarest. So it's countries 10-20 that will suffer most. |
| Re: Intertoto 2006 | |
| Author: ralfinho
Date: 22-09-2005, 17:49 | Bert, is your system just a guess of you, or do you have some infos? When I read the UEFA message yesterday, I thought of a system as described by Nick, i.e. all 22 teams competing in IT3 will have to start in IT2, and some of these 44 in IT1. |
| Re: Intertoto 2006 | |
| Author: bert.kassies
Date: 22-09-2005, 18:54 | ralfinho, it's just a guess. I have no further information. Maybe other forum users have contacts to people who attended the initial discussions at the European Club Forum. But I cannot find any confirmation for your idea in yesterday's uefa.com publications. One of the problems the "big" countries had with the original Intertoto, was the early start of the competition. UEFA can gain more support of the "big" countries by allowing them to enter at the third round. The same round as before, but now starting at mid July instead of the beginning of July. But again, it's just a feeling. |
| Re: Intertoto 2006 | |
| Author: Nick
Date: 22-09-2005, 19:19 | With only 3 rounds to go in the UI Cup nobody has to play in june except those R1 teams. But in my proposal they are only 10. We have of course the problem with only 5 games in R1 but it's much better than teams having to play only 2 games in order to gain a UEFA Cup place IMHO. |
| Re: Intertoto 2006 | |
| Author: seso
Date: 22-09-2005, 20:15 Edited by: seso at: 22-09-2005, 20:18 | Just a quick note about the winners of the IT since 1995 when it got connected to the UEFA Cup. France has 10 winners, Germany 6, Spain 5, Italy 4, England 3 and Denmark 1. In 1995 there were two winners. From 1996 on there are three clubs that participate in the UC. |
| Re: Intertoto 2006 | |
| Author: Maluyaca
Date: 23-09-2005, 10:40 | Prediction (ranking needed to be seeded in 1st round of Uefa cup) I think that with the new rule the number of points that a team has to have for being seeded in the first round of Uefa cup will raise. This year in Uefacup the lowest seeding was around 19.xxx and think that for next year it will raise till +- 23 a 24. |
| Re: Intertoto 2006 | |
| Author: Forza-AZ
Date: 23-09-2005, 11:22 Edited by: Forza-AZ at: 23-09-2005, 11:25 | I have come up with another access system for UEFA-cup (that is very logical I think). Just let all teams from countries with 6 or 7 teams in CL/UEFA-cup start in R1 (so from countries ranked 1-8), let all teams from countries with 4 teams in CL/UEFA-cup start in QR2 (so from countries ranked 9-21) and let all teams from countries with 1 or 3 teams in CL/UEFA-cup start in QR1 (so from countries ranked 22-52). Then you will have the following numbers: QR1 2 teams from countries ranked 22-49 = 56 teams 1 team from countries ranked 50-52 (Lie, SMa & And) = 3 teams 3 Fair Play teams = 3 teams total 62 teams QR2 2 teams from countries ranked 9-15 = 14 teams 3 teams from countries ranked 16-21 = 18 teams 11 teams from Intertoto = 11 teams 31 winners QR1 = 31 teams total 74 teams R1 1 title holder = 1 team 3 teams from countries ranked 1-6 = 18 teams 4 teams from countries ranked 7-8 = 8 teams 16 teams from CL QR3 = 16 teams 37 winners QR2 = 37 teams total 80 teams When there is no Title Holder, then the Cup winner of country 9 (Belgium in 2006) starts in R1 and the Cup winners of countries 22 & 23 (Croatia & Denmark in 2006) start in QR2, so you get these numbers: QR1 1 team from countries ranked 22-23 = 2 teams 2 teams from countries ranked 24-49 = 52 teams 1 team from countries ranked 50-52 (Lie, SMa & And) = 3 teams 3 Fair Play teams = 3 teams total 60 teams QR2 1 team from country ranked 9 = 1 team 2 teams from countries ranked 10-15 = 12 teams 3 teams from countries ranked 16-21 = 18 teams 1 team from countries ranked 22-23 = 2 teams 11 teams from Intertoto = 11 teams 31 winners QR1 = 30 teams total 74 teams R1 3 teams from countries ranked 1-6 = 18 teams 4 teams from countries ranked 7-8 = 8 teams 1 team from country ranked 9 = 1 team 16 teams from CL QR3 = 16 teams 37 winners QR2 = 37 teams total 80 teams |
| Re: Intertoto 2006 | |
| Author: bert.kassies
Date: 23-09-2005, 12:19 | Forza, I agree, this is a very logical access system. But I doubt if that argument will make much impression on the UEFA administration  I think UEFA will try to implement the new Intertoto 2006 with the least possible changes to the UEFA Cup. In order to avoid any opposition from the national associations. My personal choice would be to incorporate the new Intertoto (with one team per association) into an all new 3-round qualification scheme for the UEFA Cup. With 80 teams in R1, QR3, and QR2. And an adaptable number of teams in QR1 (with title-holder and no bans 66 teams). Playing in the same weeks as the Champions League qualification rounds. Which means not starting before mid July. |
| Re: Intertoto 2006 | |
| Author: Ricardo
Date: 23-09-2005, 12:23 | In numbers this is the same as my first alternative proposal: 62-74-80 Only I had Nr 7&8 move 1 team(from 4) from R1->Q2, where you have taken it from Nr 9&10 (who currently have 1 in R1 and 1 in Q2). I prefer the spread over rounds for more countries. That's why also would prefer that Cupwinners stay in Q2 for Countries 22-24(compared to your proposal) and are replaced by N3 from country 19-21. I'm curious if we will have to wait until May next year before we will know.... |
| Re: Intertoto 2006 | |
| Author: Ricardo
Date: 23-09-2005, 17:15 | I checked the list with the teams that would currently go into the Intertoto next year. Based on that they wil be just the next in line in the league, you get big names: AC Milan, Sparta Praha, Auxerre, GAK These will be the Top 11: 1 ItaIC1 Milan 109.296 But beware Cluj is also on the list........ I put these in my UC prediction, quite some trouble, I used the Forza-division (BelCW+ScoCW->Q2 and Hun+Den+Cro ->Q1) and I randomly distributed the IC participants. |
| Re: Intertoto 2006 | |
| Author: Forza-AZ
Date: 23-09-2005, 19:24 | I'm curious if we will have to wait until May next year before we will know.... Usually in February or March UEFA publishes the access list. But hopefully we will know sooner how they will divide the teams over the different rounds. PS: I will start giving my list after next weeks UEFA-cup matches again, when all the teams are known that have more points than the country-coefficient. |
| Re: Intertoto 2006 | |
| Author: UncleSam
Date: 23-09-2005, 21:43 Edited by: UncleSam at: 23-09-2005, 21:44 | According to this danish article http://www.onsidedk.com/main/index.phtml?ac_start2=1&id=141358 the 8 highest ranked countries on the UEFA Ranking will each get one team in the Intertoto Cup 3rd round (the last round). "Holdene fra de otte bedst rangerede lande på UEFA's rangliste er nemlig seedede og træder først ind i Toto Cuppens sidste runde." So the teams from Spain, Italy, England etc will just need to play two games to get into the UEFA Cup next season. The Danes are definitely not happy about this change. They say the smaller countries will be punished and the new format will be in favour of the big clubs that have missed out on a place in Europe. |
| Re: Intertoto 2006 | |
| Author: Nick
Date: 24-09-2005, 09:22 | UncleSam: Based on my experience, this article is based on this forum and this particular topic. I've seen really hilarious things in bulgarian press lately. One sports newspaper managed to fill 2 pages based on this forum. I'm sure about it because some of the possible UEFA Cup formats they published were just speculations of forum visitors here. Maybe Bert should start charging newpapers something for this So far he don't have anything official from UEFA about how the teams will be distributed in the UEFA Cup qualification and i don't believe UEFA told this exclusive to this danish newspaper! |
| Re: Intertoto 2006 | |
| Author: Todor
Date: 27-09-2005, 08:36 Edited by: Todor at: 27-09-2005, 08:38 | One more idea about the IT. Having 11 winners seems a bit ridiculous to me , so why don't UEFA completely abolish the Intertoto and give all the federations one more spot , thus incorporating IT into the UEFA Cup. Then instead of having 2 QRs , they may have 4 , an early one for the bookies and 3 QRs parallel with the Champions League. Some of the additional teams will start from the QR1 and the rest from the QR2 or QR3. I think Bert , Forza and Ricardo can develop this and help the old men from the UEFA board |
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| Author: peter
Date: 27-09-2005, 09:03 | Tudor-- Uefa cup its already very large, too many teams , not a good ideea to incorporate Intertoto in Uefa cup. I think the new format of intertoto for next year with 49 teams its intresting , but with one condition : all 49 teams MUST play all 3 rounds, not some teams just 1. And i hoppe the new format isnt a pretext for uefa to offer just another place in uefa cup for big countries, who already have too many teams there. |
| Re: Intertoto 2006 | |
| Author: BIF
Date: 27-09-2005, 09:36 | In Denmark "divisionsforeningen" is very angry. They think the new intertoto is just another tournament that is given too the big clubs in Europe from Uefa, so they have yet another chance to qualify for the Uefa Cup. I think the new Intertoto Cup is very unfair, it is just another short cut for teams from big countries. So yet again, teams from Denmark will have no chance in being seeded in the 1. round of the Uefa Cup. |
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| Author: seol
Date: 27-09-2005, 14:36 | Not sure if I get this right, but if 11 teams enter UEFA cup, 11 countries will have to divide their gathered coefficient points by one team more (assuming 11 teams represent 11 countries). Won't this make the following happen: biggest countries (1-6): +/- no change in coeff, but more teams -> less possibilities for other teams/countries countries 7-12: an extra (=> weaker) team entering, so coefficient will decrease RESULT: difference between 1-6 and 7-12 getting bigger? What do the 'experts' here think about that? |
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| Author: putzeijs
Date: 06-10-2005, 13:13 | I don't want to call myself an expert. But coincidentally I made up some calculations last night regarding the new Intertoto/UC regulations. I have to say that Seol seems to be correct, althoug the differences are not that big. Most top 5 countries gain some extra points. I have the feeling that this is mainly becauce their Intertoto teams have an extra round to play, where they are topseeds. And because these top intertoto teams have aproximatly the same strenght as other UC teams from the same country, the fact that their team cooefficient is devided by one team extra, doesn't make this coeff weaker. Other winners are the countries +/- 22-26. These are the countries that have to play the first qualifiers in stead of beeing through to the second q in the old system. The are now topseeded in Q1, and therefor have more chances to gain points. Losers on the other hand are the teams 27-32, who were topseeds Q1 in the old system. In the new system they are mid seeds, and bottum teams in Q2. So less chances to get easy points. Other losers are the countries 6-12. They don't have enough teams to be comppetative in European competitions, so the extra teams makes the averidge lower. Both winner and losers seems to win/lose half a ranking point for their country. So the impact won't be that big. These calculations are 100% objective, but 100% sure not real. Topseeds (1-20%) in my calculations win 4p in a KO round, seeds 21-40% win 3p, mid teams (41-60%) 2p, ... . |
| Re: Intertoto 2006 | |
| Author: kurt
Date: 07-10-2005, 16:03 Edited by: kurt at: 07-10-2005, 16:05 | TO PUTZEIJS, you are wrong you see it for 1 year, if you see it over more years, let us say 5 years, now sometimes a club from the top 5 are unseeded in champions league round 3 or even uefacupround 1 the chances that for instance udinese or sevilla being intertotowinner and gain some points are grown a lot, and a few years later they will be seeded in champions league round 3 or round 1 uefacup the clubs from the big countries that are once in europe in the 3-4-5 years will be thanks to intertoto in europe in 2-3-4 years and that will be the difference being seeded and unseeded in the future every club from the big 5 will be seeded in championsleague qualifying round 3 and uefacup round 1, NOT for increasing the countryranking but that more clubs will have a higher teamranking |
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| Author: hAABet
Date: 16-10-2005, 23:41 | This is a genius strike against minor teams. it LOOK like its a benefit for the minor teams. But the real world, there is no extra spots in the uefa tournement, there is not fewer rounds for the UIC participants AND put more countries into the UQ1 = quicker elimination. Uefa has once again proven they are a representative for the big countries (top 10) and few major clubs outside this. A direct conflict with Fifa's recently annoncement, due to falling interest of football. |
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| Author: ignjat63
Date: 18-10-2005, 14:20 | According to an article in today's papers this will be the new format of Intertoto starting next season (2006/2007). There will be 49 teams from 49 countries (so, a team per country). In the first round 26 lowest ranking teams will play. In the second round 13 winners plus 15 middle ranked teams and in the final third round 14 winners plus top 8 ranked teams. 11 winners of the third round will play in UC Q2. The article is clear about ranking order of teams and not the countries. Knowing how imprecise journalists can be in fine little details I would not be so sure about that. |
| Re: Intertoto 2006 | |
| Author: Forza-AZ
Date: 18-10-2005, 16:43 | @ignjat63 Then UEFA should only make the draw after half May, if they want to use the clubs coefficients. Untill now the draw was in the beginning of April, when the teams weren't known yet. |
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| Author: ignjat63
Date: 18-10-2005, 16:52 | No lack of clarity in that article about using team rankings. I only expressed caution because I know how careless journalists can be. And the article was signed "Uefa" indicating that it was a formal information from UEFA. |
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| Author: TimJohnson
Date: 18-10-2005, 21:42 | There is an article on the Intertoto on the Viking Stavanger website however my Norwegian is non existant |
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| Author: Gauss
Date: 18-10-2005, 22:30 | That article refers to an article on fotball.no which only confirms that there will be 28 teams in the second round and claims that the norwegian team will start in round two. |
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| Author: hAABet
Date: 19-10-2005, 00:22 | Okay. This lead the next situation. This year several countries was not participant in UIC. I.e my country, due to the early time limit uefa has put up. Will they change that? I don't think so. Look at the time for WC and the leagues has to stop x weeks before. Well, southern european countries is'nt a problem and for the big countries like England is'nt a problem either, BUT there a certain amoungt of leagues in Europe which depend on the climate and none of these are major players, expect for Russia so uefa/fifa give it a .... And bascially with the timeline the CLQ and UCQ has, there is no need for the UIC anymore. |
| Re: Intertoto 2006 | |
| Author: Ricardo
Date: 24-10-2005, 15:15 Edited by: Ricardo at: 24-10-2005, 15:20 | The new Intertoto is described in the latest UefaDirect. It is as feared: R1: 26 R2: 15 + 13 winners R1 R3: 8+ 14 winners R2 Basically 1 representant per association. empty spots will be filled, but max 2 teams per association(phew!) 11 winners to UC-Q2 They say in the article it is good for the small and medium associations to get to the UefaCup. The number of IC matches go down from 116 to 76, while number of UC-Q matches go up from 116 to 136 - we should be able to calculate number of participants per round with this. It looks like 62 in Q1 and 74 in Q2. This means 6 more in Q1 compared to this year |
| Re: Intertoto 2006 | |
| Author: bert.kassies
Date: 24-10-2005, 16:44 | Very good observation, Ricardo. My scheme posted above at 22/09 also fulfils the criterium: 66 teams in QR1 and 70 in QR2. |
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| Author: Ricardo
Date: 24-10-2005, 17:02 | Actualy Bert, All possibilities are open. Every 2 matches 1 team is out and in the end 80 teams are in R1 and there are 148 spots given for UefaCup(Q1+Q2+R1+FP+IC) This should always lead to 136 matches in the qualification rounds. |
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| Author: Forza-AZ
Date: 24-10-2005, 17:27 | And the drop in number of matches (from 236 to 212) is just because 12 less teams enter the Intertoto, so 12 teams less have to be eliminated, so 24 less matches have to be played. |
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| Author: bert.kassies
Date: 25-10-2005, 10:24 | Ricardo, Forza: yes of coarse. I was just triggered by Ricardo's remark "It looks like 62 in Q1 and 74 in Q2 ". So we have to wait some more time. Last year UEFA published the access list in February. |
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| Author: Ricardo
Date: 25-10-2005, 12:48 Edited by: Ricardo at: 25-10-2005, 12:49 | Yes, Bert, and probably even longer, as last year in the end there were only 50 teams in UC-Q1. It all depends on Titleholder, licenseproblems and other irregularities that causes teams to be promoted or demoted. |
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| Author: bert.kassies
Date: 25-10-2005, 15:20 | On the agenda for the UEFA Executive Committee meeting at the Corinthia Palace Hotel in Malta on 7 and 8 November 2005: UEFA Intertoto Cup - Principles for allocating vacant places (see uefa.com). |