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| UEFA Cup Draw | |
| Author: drussell
Date: 19-06-2003, 04:17 | As Bert mentions... and let me paraphrase... Teams in the first rounds are usually divided into a number of groups based on geographical criteria. For the draw of the qualification round the 82 teams are divided into 10 groups. Does anyone know which team is in which group? |
| Re: UEFA Cup Draw | |
| Author: Juda
Date: 19-06-2003, 08:24 | Drussell in acctually UEFA decided on the groups in the morning of the draw...so we need to wait the morning and I'm waiting for the groups because my team take part in this draw too(Maccabi Haifa F.C.). But in Champions League Q1 we got the groups: Seeded teams coef. HJK Helsinki FIN 10.604 Skonto Riga LVA 6.332 Omonia Nicosia CYP 5.082 Bohemians Dublin IRL 3.665 Sheriff Tiraspol MOL 2.916 Dinamo Tbilisi GEO 2.833 Leotar Trebinje BOS 2.166 FBK Kaunas LTU 1.999 KR Reykjavik ISL 1.749 Vardar Skopje MKD 1.748 Unseeded teams coef. BATE Borisov BLR 1.708 Sliema Wanderers MLT 1.499 Pyunik Yerevan ARM 1.082 Barry Town WAL 1.082 SK Tirana ALB 0.915 Flora Tallinn EST 0.832 Glentoran NIR 0.749 CS Grevenmacher LUX 0.666 HB Torshavn FRO 0.582 Irtysh Pavlodar KZK 0.250  |
| Re: UEFA Cup Draw | |
| Author: bert.kassies
Date: 19-06-2003, 18:41 | Here are the 10 groups. |
| Re: UEFA Cup Draw | |
| Author: Juda
Date: 19-06-2003, 20:02 | And here we got the seconf qualification draw tomorrow: seeded teams: Celtic FC (SCO) RSC Anderlecht (BEL) SK Slavia Praha (CZE) Rosenborg BK (NOR) Wisla Kraków (POL) NK Dinamo Zagreb (CRO) Grazer AK (AUT) FK Shakhtar Donetsk (UKR) FK Partizan (YUG) CH (DEN)* Maccabi Tel-Aviv FC (ISR) PFC CSKA Sofia (BUL) MTK Hungária FC(HUN) PFC CSKA Moskva (RUS) unseeded teans: Djurgĺrdens IF (SWE) AFC Rapid Bucuresti (ROM) NK Maribor (SLO) MK ilina (SVK) Winners match 1 Winners match 2 Winners match 3 Winners match 4 Winners match 5 Winners match 6 Winners match 7 Winners match 8 Winners match 9 Winners match 10 Goodddddd Luck.......... MACCABI TEL AVIV I HATE YOUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| Re: UEFA Cup Draw | |
| Author: Ricardo
Date: 20-06-2003, 08:19 | Oops what an error made by Uefa they shorten 'Serbia&Montenegro' to YUG. |
| Re: UEFA Cup Draw | |
| Author: Juda
Date: 20-06-2003, 08:35 | Yes Ricardo I saw that and I don't understood that too. And I forgot to changed that-from "YUG"(Yugoslavia)-to "SMN"(Serbia & Montenegro).  |
| Re: UEFA Cup Draw | |
| Author: Ricardo
Date: 20-06-2003, 08:50 | Is SMN not San Marino? and SRB Serbia&Montenegro? |
| Re: UEFA Cup Draw | |
| Author: Juda
Date: 20-06-2003, 09:00 | Noooooo Ricardo. SMN-Serbia(S) and Montenegro(MN)...... San Marino it's SMR-San(S) and Marino(MR) SRB not could be because where "Montenegro"? SRB it's just "Serbia". So it's "SMN".  |
| Re: UEFA Cup Draw | |
| Author: Ricardo
Date: 20-06-2003, 15:37 | Sorry, I looked at Bert's shortens(In the team-coefficient): Srb for Serbia and Montnegro and Sma for San Marino P.S. for Bert: Will you be adding the participating teams to the teamcoefficient or is there a general rule on your list that teams that has no 'personal' points are not shown on the list. |
| Re: UEFA Cup Draw | |
| Author: Juda
Date: 20-06-2003, 15:58 | 2003/04 UEFA Cup qualifying round draw First leg: 14 August Second leg: 28 August AIK Solna (SWE) v Fylkir (ISL) KS Vllaznia (ALB) v Dundee FC (SCO) FC Levadia Maardu (EST) v NK Varteks (CRO) FC Santa Coloma (AND) v Fair Play (DEN)* NK eljenicar (BHZ) v Anorthosis Famagusta FC (CYP) FC Banants (ARM) v Hapoel Tel-Aviv FC (ISR) Cup winners (DEN)* v FC Dinamo Minsk (BLR) Malmö FF (SWE) v Portadown FC (NIR) FC Dinamo Bucuresti (ROM) v FHK Liepajas Metalurgs (LVA) Valletta FC (MLT) v Neuchâtel Xamax FC (SUI) FC Kärnten (AUT) v Grindavík (ISL) FK Viktoria ikov (CZE) v FC Zhenis Astana (KZK) FK Sarajevo (BHZ) v FK Sartid (YUG) APOEL Nicosia FC (CYP) v Derry City FC (IRL) PFC Litex Lovech (BGR) v CSF Zimbru Chisinau (MOL) FC Neman Grodno (BLR) v FC Steaua Bucuresti (ROM) FC Etzella Ettelbrück (LUX) v NK Kamen Ingrad (CRO) Manchester City FC (ENG) v Total Network Solutions FC WAL) Molde FK (NOR) v KÍ Klaksvík (FRO) Third-placed (DEN)* v FC TVMK Tallinn (EST) FK Ventspils (LVA) v Wisla Plock (POL) Myllykosken Pallo-47 (FIN) v BSC Young Boys (SUI) FC Vaduz (LIE) v FC Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk (UKR) Coleraine FC (NIR) v UD Leiria (POR) Groclin Grodzisk Wielkopolski (POL) v FK Atlantas (LTU) KS Dinamo Tirana (ALB) v K. Sporting Lokeren OV (BEL) Cwmbran Town FC (WAL) v Maccabi Haifa FC (ISR) NK Publikum (SVN) v FK Belasica GC (MKD) FK Cementarnica 55 (MKD) v GKS Katowice (POL) KM Púchov (SVK) v FC Sioni Bolnisi (GEO) FK Crvena Zvezda (SMN) v FC Nistru Otaci (MOL) FK Ekranas (LTU) v Debreceni VSC (HUN) Birkirkara FC (MLT) v Ferencvárosi TC (HUN) FC Haka (FIN) v HNK Hadjuk Split (CRO) FC Torpedo Moskva (RUS) v SP Domagnano (SMR) FK Atyrau (KZK) v PFC Levski Sofia (BUL) NK Olimpija Ljubljana (SVN) v Shelbourne FC (IRL) RC Lens (FRA) v FC Torpedo Kutaisi (GEO) Runners-up (DEN) v FC Shirak (ARM) FC Artmedia Petrzalka (SVK) v F91 Dudelange (LUX) NSÍ Runavík (FRO) v SFK Lyn (NOR) |
| Re: UEFA Cup Draw | |
| Author: Ricardo
Date: 20-06-2003, 16:02 | Would this draw affect the last day in the Danish league? I guess not, all can be overtaken by the Danish, but it could have been that Danish Nr3 had an easier draw then Nr2 and then it would be 'better' to finsh 3rd.! |
| Re: UEFA Cup Draw | |
| Author: bert.kassies
Date: 20-06-2003, 16:21 | Ricardo, Each participating team will be added to the yearly coefficients. But only teams with one or more 'personal' points in the last five years are listed in the 5-year team ranking. You're right, I use 'Srb' as the shortened country name. But that's propably not right. It was just a guess. I did see 'Sam' (propably at uefa.com). I thought that was too confusing with 'Sma' for San Marino. But now I think that I will have to change it some time. And I don't believe Juda. Unless he has some kind of evidence |
| Re: UEFA Cup Draw | |
| Author: flob
Date: 20-06-2003, 17:19 | Juda is right, uefa.com used SMN a few times, for example here. I too confused it with San Marino seeing it for the first time, think SRB (or SBM if Montenegro shouldn't be ommited) would be better. |
| Re: UEFA Cup Draw | |
| Author: vlada
Date: 20-06-2003, 17:32 | I was also confused when I saw SMN for the first time (btw, I'm from SMN or SRB or SAM or ... :-)) Don't worry too much about this because the abbreviation is just temporary for the current and maybe the next year, so it'll be obsolete very soon. Then we have to construct a new one... |
| Re: UEFA Cup Draw | |
| Author: bert.kassies
Date: 20-06-2003, 20:23 | Obviously I was wrong not to believe Juda. SMN is used at uefa.com. But please Juda, and all other posters, if possible, put some evidence with your posts. It's really easy to put a link. Just type displayed-text. And it should be mentioned that uefa.com is at least not consistent. They also use SAM. |
| Re: UEFA Cup Draw | |
| Author: Juda
Date: 21-06-2003, 07:58 | Look Bert UEFA site changed that all the time and it's ok that you or all partners here don't believe me becuase it's:SAM,SMN and even YUG so I like SMN and I wrote that... About the San Marino it's always be SMR but is this changed I will cahnge that too. And example:Faroe Islands in UEFA site they wrote "FAR" but I don't like it because it's always was "FRO" so I wrote "FRO" and you believe me and you understand from where is the club. |