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Author: Judio1999
Date: 09-09-2013, 17:23
| In the Rankings surely Derry City and Derry City FC are the Same club ??? |
Author: Forza-AZ
Date: 09-09-2013, 19:08
| No, they aren't. Derry City is the old club that went bankrupt. Derry City FC is the new club that was formed after the bankrupty.
You might say it is the same club still, but UEFA considers the "new" club as another as the "old", and so the results of the "old" club dont count for the coefficient of the "new" club. |
Author: Friesland
Date: 10-09-2013, 16:40
| This is strange.
In the draw Derry City was given the country part, which makes you think UEFA consider it to be a different Derry City. See: http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/news/newsid=1960236.html
But in the ranking they are ranked 364th with a coefficient of 2.525, which implies that UEFA considers it to be the same team. See: http://www.uefa.com/memberassociations/uefarankings/club/index.html |
Author: Forza-AZ
Date: 10-09-2013, 17:06
| UEFA is wrong more often on their own site. At the draw Derry City had only the Irish base coefficient, so then UEFA considers them another club then the Derry City that played in 2009/10. |
Author: bert.kassies
Date: 22-09-2013, 19:57
| Another error at uefa.com is that they apparently count the points of Swansea to Wales and not to England.
For the country ranking Swansea scored 4.5 points England 33.5 / 7 = 4.785 (uefa.com 29.0 / 6 = 4.833) Wales 3.0 / 4 = 0.7500 (uefa.com 7.5 / 5 = 1.500) |
Author: Lorric
Date: 22-09-2013, 22:58
Edited by: Lorric at: 22-09-2013, 22:58 | Ah ha ha ha ha ha!
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Author: bryce9a
Date: 05-10-2013, 00:18
| The "cup draw" value for Derry was updated in June in a list marked as "provisional".
- The main UEFA rankings page was updated in September, so is more up-to-date.
- It coincides with the team's Europa League page where the "Previous Record in Competition" lists results from 2009-10 (http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/season=2014/clubs/club=50086/index.html)
- The club's main UEFA website team page lists current league results alongside historical results dating back to 1965. (http://www.uefa.com/teamsandplayers/teams/club=50086/profile/index.html)
Those reasons lead to believe the current rankings listed on the UEFA website are the correct values, and Bert is incorrect to contradict the main UEFA site by having two different "Derry City" clubs. |
Author: Forza-AZ
Date: 05-10-2013, 08:55
| @bryce9a
Then why were the 2009-10 values not included in the official list for the draw for this years EL-Q2? That is proof for me that UEFA doesn't consider the 2009-10 Derry City the same as the current one. |
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