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Battle for 11th-13th
Author: Lorric
Date: 31-08-2013, 04:47
Edited by: Lorric
at: 31-08-2013, 04:47
We've got a new battle now.

11th - Turkey - 30.000 2/5
12th - Switzerland - 29.025 3/5
13th - Greece - 29.000 2/5

Switzerland with 3 teams can put pressure on the others, while Greece will be looking to catch Turkey. Who will end on 13th? Let's have a look at the teams. Each country has a CL team.

Turkey

CL - Galatasaray (Real Madrid, Juventus, Copenhagen)
I think they have a strong chance of EL football.

EL - Trabzonspor (Lazio, Legia arsaw, Apollon)
I think they are favoured to advance.

Switzerland

CL - Basel (Chelsea, Schalke, Steaua)
Unpredictable...

EL - St. Gallen (Valencia, Swansea, Kuban Krasnodar)
They're going to have a hard time here, but they already disposed of a higher ranked Russian team...

EL - Thun (Dynamo Kiev, Genk, Rapid Wien)
They should collect points here. They might even be able to advance, though they're not favourites.

Greece

CL - Olympiakos (Benfica, PSG, Anderlecht)
Good draw. Maybe they could sneak into the KO stage. They could also end up last.

EL - PAOK (AZ Alkmaar, Maccabi Haifa, Shakhter Karagandy)
They got an excellent draw. I wouldn't put it past them to win this group. Or go out.

Re: Battle for 11th-13th
Author: walter-wade
Date: 31-08-2013, 06:17
man,u see we compete among which countries! do we desearve this bulshit inyour opinion? we would compete for 9th spot with holland,ukraine,russia vs normally..anyway,5,6 years after,we will find our normal place.i don't mind now's situation even we disrease to 45th spot...the answer to your topic,suisse will finish 11th for sure,probably 10 million people's country (maybe a town of us) will pass us thanks paok (they also desearved to be here by passing metalist first, maccabi than)

Re: Battle for 11th-13th
Author: SirHenri
Date: 31-08-2013, 10:25
Since Turkey has about 1.000 advantage, they are still favourites for me to stay 11th.

Re: Battle for 11th-13th
Author: Lorric
Date: 31-08-2013, 15:55
Cheaters should not prosper.

Re: Battle for 11th-13th
Author: reisanibal
Date: 31-08-2013, 17:49
What do you mean by cheaters??

Re: Battle for 11th-13th
Author: walter-wade
Date: 01-09-2013, 01:40
he means what he means

Re: Battle for 11th-13th
Author: Lorric
Date: 18-09-2013, 23:53
Switzerland add 0.400 after the CL phase:

11th - Turkey - 30.000 2/5
12th - Switzerland - 29.425 3/5
13th - Greece - 29.000 2/5

Re: Battle for 11th-13th
Author: SirHenri
Date: 19-09-2013, 10:49
Sitzland could overtake Turkey today and I really can't remember them beeing on 11th place. That (probably) never happened before ?!?

Re: Battle for 11th-13th
Author: JPV
Date: 19-09-2013, 12:58
happened in 1982 .

Re: Battle for 11th-13th
Author: SirHenri
Date: 19-09-2013, 13:30
Edited by: SirHenri
at: 19-09-2013, 13:40
Yeah, Bert's graphs are great for such research !

It happened 1960 as well. Even 10th place.

Still it would be quite an achievement fpr the Swiss, of course.

edit :
The best rank ever is 1958 / 1959, where they ended 7th.
(the UEFA rankings for those years (until 1978) are missed at Bert's page somehow, or am I just blind ?!?)

Re: Battle for 11th-13th
Author: Lorric
Date: 19-09-2013, 23:06
Perfect week for Switzerland. Three teams, three victories.
PAOK and Trabzonspor also picked up wins, all Europa teams won.

11th - Turkey - 30.400 2/5
12th - Switzerland - 30.225 3/5
13th - Greece - 29.400 2/5

Re: Battle for 11th-13th
Author: Lorric
Date: 03-10-2013, 00:04
Turkey pull away with Galatasaray's draw. Greece close in on Switzerland with Olympiakos' win:

11th - Turkey - 30.600 2/5
12th - Switzerland - 30.225 3/5
13th - Greece - 29.800 2/5

So the race is now tighter, just 0.800 between the three...

Europa League tomorrow!

Re: Battle for 11th-13th
Author: Lorric
Date: 04-10-2013, 01:44
So, Trabzonspor drew and PAOK drew. Turkey pull further clear of Switzerland, but the gap between the three nations remains at 0.800.

11th - Turkey - 30.800 2/5
12th - Switzerland - 30.225 3/5
13th - Greece - 30.000 2/5

Re: Battle for 11th-13th
Author: nikosextra
Date: 25-10-2013, 19:54
Prediction:

I believe after this week's result, Turkey and Greece are near safe. Greece's biggest advantage is Olympiacos' possible progress in the knock-out round and 5 bonus points. PAOK will probably be "seeded" in the knock-out draw and looks strong at least on the offense.

Same goes with Galata and Trabzon, though Galata will probably continue in Europa.

For the Swiss, Basel will probably continue in Europa, but I can't see them doing exceptionally well there. St Gallen may score another win and draw, but will not qualify. Thun has more chance but they'll have to get over the loss from Kiev quickly.

Re: Battle for 11th-13th
Author: nemesys
Date: 26-10-2013, 17:28
Edited by: nemesys
at: 26-10-2013, 17:36
Just a quick recap.
10  Belgium ...  34.100  (4/5)  +3.500
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11 Turkey .... 31.600 (2/5) +1.000
12 Greece .... 30.600 (2/5) +0.000
13 Switzerland 30.425 (3/5) -0.175
---
14 Austria ... 27.525 (3/5) -3.075

Cheers!

- nemesys

Edit: corrected a wrong data.

Re: Battle for 11th-13th
Author: reisanibal
Date: 09-11-2013, 15:59
So, after MD4:
10- BEL 1W 2D 1L (4/5) 34.900

11- TUR 1W 1L (2/5) 32.000
12- GRE 1W 1D (2/5) 31.200
13- SUI 1D 2L (3/5) 30.625

14- AUT 1W 1D 1L (3/5) 28.125