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Author: mspm89
Date: 04-06-2013, 23:32

Armenia is one of the ex-USSR countries who hasn't enjoyed much football accomplishments. Yet they qualified to the playoffs for the last Euro as a 2nd-placed team, so they've clearly improved despite not having so much luck in the current WC Qualifiers. They even have the top scorers of the Russian and Ukrainian Premier leagues in Yura Movsisyan and Henrikh Mkhitaryan.

Of course, most of the above is related to NT performance, and there is plenty of instances where NT goes a long way different than club performance. But my point is, is there room for the Armenian coefficient to improve now that they are at the bottom of the barrel with the other CLQ1 countries and their teams face the best chance to score some points?

Re: Armenia
Author: paul7 Date: 05-06-2013, 00:10	nobody cares

Re: Armenia
Author: mspm89 Date: 05-06-2013, 02:43	Usually you find in this forum lots of kind people willing to discuss the trivialities of the European rankings, so i'd expect that if no one cares for a subject, they would skip the thread altogether and avoid stupid displays like yours @paul7. Or is it that you have something against the Armenians? Because i take no offense.

Author: bugylibicska
Date: 05-06-2013, 03:18

Well, I do care and would like to see the Armenians doing at least as well as the Georgians and the Azeris. Never been in Armenia unfortunately, but I can imagine myself going one day and maybe when a favourite team from Hungary drawn to a team from Armenia I`ll jump on the bandwagon. They`d need at least one team that `s going to produce a good year to start the country climbing. Pyunik looked promising, but couldn`t deliver.

Author: Lorric
Date: 05-06-2013, 04:56
Edited by: Lorric
at: 05-06-2013, 05:04

@ paul7

wtf.

@ mspm89

EDIT: What was written here previously was wrong. I mixed up the away goals. Gandzasar defeated EB Streymur on away goals. So I guess that bodes well for Shirak in CLQ1, though EB Streymur could cause problems if they are drawn:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVR6h1rU7k0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiOutklC-74

I'm surprised Armenian teams have performed so poorly. I don't really know much of anything about the level of the league, if it's a poor league, you could imagine any Armenian talent of any worth quickly leaving Armenia.

Re: Armenia
Author: SirHenri Date: 05-06-2013, 10:02	I don't think Armenia will stay long at the bottom 4. The league should be much better than the dwarfs San Marino and Andorra, so I expect a clear improvement this season, climbing maybe some places in the ranking. At least I'm quite sure they will have their best year, improving their 0.875 points the last 5 season. Greetings from Berlin @ Paul WTF !

Re: Armenia
Author: mspm89 Date: 08-06-2013, 02:51	Oh, and now the NT grants the likes of Malta their first Qualifiers' victory in 20 years. It pours when it rains for Armenia :p But like you say, they should improve their meagre recent scores. There's only one way and it's up.

Re: Armenia
Author: Lorric Date: 08-06-2013, 15:14	Oh well, if that had to happen, it might as well be now when you're realistically out of contention rather than ruining a qualifying campaign.

Re: Armenia
Author: SirHenri Date: 11-06-2013, 21:59	What an impressive result today by the armenian national team !!!

Re: Armenia
Author: Lorric Date: 11-06-2013, 22:10	Now that is one of the weirdest pairs of results I've ever seen. 0 Armenia - Malta 1 0 Denmark - Armenia 4

Re: Armenia
Author: bugylibicska Date: 11-06-2013, 22:21	``There's only one way and it's up.`` They`ve found it!!!

Re: Armenia
Author: Lorric Date: 11-06-2013, 22:35	It seems they like an unexpected 4-0 away win. They did it to Slovakia last campaign.

To the thread opener
Author: yanivbm88 Date: 23-06-2013, 21:01 Edited by: yanivbm88 at: 23-06-2013, 21:05	To the thread opener, Just correting.. Armenia didn't qualify in the euros playoffs. You are probably confusing with Estonia. Armenia was close (including a 4-0 away win in Slovakia, becoming usual) but didn't make it

Re: Armenia
Author: mspm89 Date: 24-06-2013, 00:54	Yes!!! I got confused becaused I actually watched Armenia's match of the Qualifiers against Ireland, where a win would have them thru to the playoffs. Instead, Ireland won and faced the other massive underdog, Estonia, in the playoff.

Author: JohnHarts
Date: 24-06-2013, 06:06

Looking at their squad, just over half the team are based abroad, so the league, like many smaller leagues, will inevitably be weaker than the NT's results. It would be a surprise if they stayed in the bottom four for long. I'm surprised UEFA uses this mini-qualifying round format though. It just seems to end up as Andorra and San Marino as permanent members and a rotating door of whatever clubs do poorest from direct qualifiers from 2Q (as the other two countries in 1Q usually get enough points against Andorra/SanM to leapfrog countries in 47th and 48th place.) Surely it shouldn't be too hard to tweak the format to have all the smaller champs starting together?

Author: shisraelit
Date: 28-06-2013, 21:47
Edited by: shisraelit
at: 28-06-2013, 22:31

next week european cups will begin:for armenia shirak will destroy tre penne,in el rudar-mika is very balanced,difficult to predict,pyunik must win against a team relegated in macedonia... gandzasar will be eliminated,aktobe is too strong. if 3\4 will pass,i think it would be good.

AnelZ,last year rudar was eliminated by shirak... and this year rudar is in el only because budocnost and grbiji didn t obtain the licence...

Author: AnelZ
Date: 28-06-2013, 22:15

Shirak will pass Tre Penne, but Rudar Pljevlje will be a very tough match and I'm pretty sure that the Montenegro squad will easily pass that hurdle in Mika. The club who plays against Teteks has good chances to pass because playing against a club from second tier in Macedonia should't pose a big danger. Regarding Aktobe, even some stronger clubs would have a hard job with them, not a club from Armenia.

Author: bugylibicska
Date: 29-06-2013, 01:33

I expect Shirak Gyumri to advance without much difficulty vs. Tre Penne, but bow out vs. Partizan Beograd in the 2nd round, though not without a good fight.
Gandzasar Kapan are no match for Aktobe, if they won`t lose both games that`ll already be a success. Too bad, because they`d have the chance in the next round for success vs. Hodd from Norway`s 2nd tier.
Pyunik have surely the very upperhand vs. Teteks Tetovo that play in the 2nd tier in Macedonia next season. Their potential opponent comes from the game of Zalgiris Vilnius-St. Patrick`s Athletic and I expect Pyunik in the 3rd round of EL.
MIKA Ashtarak vs. Rudar Pljevlja look the most balanced game, but I expect MIKA to advance in a very tight battle. If MIKA survive, Slask Wroclaw probably stop them in the 2nd round.

Author: Lorric
Date: 29-06-2013, 02:35
Edited by: Lorric
at: 29-06-2013, 02:35

Why do you think Pyunik can pass St. Patrick's Athletic when you look at their list of recent European scalps? If they can defeat clubs from Russia, Israel, Sweden, Bosnia, as well as other teams from higher rated leagues than Armenia, they can defeat Pyunik. This might also be the strongest St. Patrick's Athletic team, they are currently top of their league. Maybe they'll finally get to take their coefficient into the CL and possibly be seeded.

Author: bugylibicska
Date: 29-06-2013, 04:14

1. Pyunik always played in the CL, but last year in the EL and were stopped by strong and very strong teams, like Dynamo Kyiv, Shakhtar Donetsk (twice), CSKA Sofia, Dinamo Zagreb, Partizan Beograd and Plzen, though beat a few weaker teams in the 1st rounds (Tampere, KR Reykjavik, Pobeda Prilep). Never really got a chance to advance further.
2. There`s only one game vs. Irish teams, Derry City, where Pyunik won 2:0 (0:0, 2:0).
3. I remember when St. Patrick`s Athletic played Krylya Sovetov Samara in 2009 very well, because Krylya were one of my favourite teams in Russia. They had good names in their squad like Koller, Jarosik, but they`ve lost 1:0 in Dublin and Koller didn`t even travel. In the rematch Krylya were up 3:0 already when they`ve committed suicide and in the last quarter of an hour or so got two goals (one own goal) and were dumped out, because of the away goals rule.
4. Honestly, I can`t recall any other significant triumph by St. Patrick`s. Maybe they`re stronger now and Pyunik are in a decline, I don`t know, but I felt this is a very good opportunity to reach the 3rd round first time ever in their history. Probably first time ever for any team in Armenia, but I`m not sure.

Re: Armenia
Author: TimJohnson Date: 29-06-2013, 09:55	With the subject of Armenia just to say I am travelling from Wales for the Europa League game between Gandzasar and Aktobe and really looking forward to it

Re: Armenia
Author: bugylibicska Date: 30-06-2013, 16:09	Are you going to Armenia just to watch that game, that`s awesome! Good to see other people being as crazy as I`m, or more. Have fun!

Re: Armenia
Author: Lorric Date: 02-07-2013, 18:14	It begins! Shirak have defeated Tre Penne 3-0 at home in the very first European match of the new season.

Re: Armenia
Author: mspm89 Date: 02-07-2013, 20:37 Edited by: mspm89 at: 02-07-2013, 21:40	Indeed. Expected result, the key will be the EL teams on thursday. BTW, right now a surprise is being cooked in Andorra. If Lusitanos hold on to this result, we could be ready to see the 1st Andorran team advancing a round. It would be, right? EDIT: I guess not The Faroese team will get the result at home and advance.

Re: Armenia
Author: Forza-AZ Date: 02-07-2013, 22:53	@mspm89 In 2009/10 UE Sant Juli�(And) beat SP Tre Fiori(SMa) in CL-Q1, so it won't be the first Andorran team to win a round if Lusitans make an upset next weak.

Author: mspm89
Date: 05-07-2013, 06:53
Edited by: mspm89
at: 05-07-2013, 07:05

Yes Forza! I knew that instance, but i subconsciously left that out on the account that Andorra and San Marino are "equals", and victories against each other didn't count for the purposes of my statement

BTW, if Pyunik does not advance against the Macedonian minnows, there's no way Armenian league will deem this season positive. The other teams won't have it just as easy to gain points (except Shirak but only in the Q1).

Re: Armenia
Author: shisraelit Date: 05-07-2013, 13:49	I watched the highlights of teteks-pyunik and the game was dominated by teteks(relegated in macedonia) so if pyunik passes this round,against st patricks they have no chance...sorry bugylibicska...

Author: Lorric
Date: 05-07-2013, 15:41
Edited by: Lorric
at: 05-07-2013, 15:43

I also think whoever wins the St. Patrick's match will beat whoever wins the Pyunik match. Heavy favourites for me.

Speaking of highlights, check out the 2nd goal by St. Patrick's if you get a chance. I was watching the match. There's also something if you find it that I'd like to know, Zalgiris' 2nd goal, I saw the goal, and didn't see what happened, but next thing, the scorer looks like he's out cold at the base of the advertising boards. I want to know what happened to him.

EDIT: Oh, and speaking of out, they lost the lights to the stadium with about 40secs left, so the ref just blew the whistle on the game. Total darkness, I can't imagine how the crowd got out of the stadium.

Re: Armenia
Author: shisraelit Date: 05-07-2013, 20:35	i saw the 2nd goal of st patricks,fantastic goal. After the 2nd goal of zalgiris,the scorer seems slide while he went to the fans to celebrate the goal... not very well for his bottom and his back...

Re: Armenia
Author: Lorric Date: 05-07-2013, 23:12	Ah, that doesn't sound so bad, I thought he might have been pushed into the boards head first by his overenthusiastic teammates or something.

Re: Armenia
Author: Lorric Date: 05-07-2013, 23:37	Mkhitaryan has signed with Dortmund. That's huge for Armenia.

Author: bugylibicska
Date: 05-07-2013, 23:51

``BTW, if Pyunik does not advance against the Macedonian minnows, there's no way Armenian league will deem this season positive. The other teams won't have it just as easy to gain points (except Shirak but only in the Q1).``
Well, I`m not so pessimistic. Armenia scored 0.500 0.250 0.125 and 0.875 in the last four years and now, after only halfway in the 1st round they`ve 0.375. Shirak and Pyunik have decent chances to win and MIKA might collect some point(s), only Gandzasar is out and little chance to contribute. With only 2 points collected in the next games (being realistic), they`ve already reached 0.875, their record haul and at least two teams in the 2nd round they`ve a great chance to collect more points.
That was my prediction after the draw and before the games:

``I expect Shirak Gyumri to advance without much difficulty vs. Tre Penne, but bow out vs. Partizan Beograd in the 2nd round, though not without a good fight.
Gandzasar Kapan are no match for Aktobe, if they won`t lose both games that`ll already be a success. Too bad, because they`d have the chance in the next round for success vs. Hodd from Norway`s 2nd tier.
Pyunik have surely the very upperhand vs. Teteks Tetovo that play in the 2nd tier in Macedonia next season. Their potential opponent comes from the game of Zalgiris Vilnius-St. Patrick`s Athletic and I expect Pyunik in the 3rd round of EL.
MIKA Ashtarak vs. Rudar Pljevlja look the most balanced game, but I expect MIKA to advance in a very tight battle. If MIKA survive, Slask Wroclaw probably stop them in the 2nd round.``

So far so good. And I`m a bit baffled by the cockiness regarding St.Patrick`s chances vs. Pyunik. Who said that Zalgiris Vilnius is much stronger than Teteks Tetovo. If Lithuanian teams are much stronger than Macedonian teams, how come Suduva couldn`t beat Turnovo in Lithuania. So, I`m afraid your inflated optimism about St.Patrick`s being the overwhelming favourite is just a wannabe fantasy, a pie in the sky, but I`m not going to deny your right to dream as big as you want.

Re: Armenia
Author: Lorric Date: 06-07-2013, 01:06	Lithuania - 37th. Macedonia - 42nd. League pos. Zalgiris - 2nd. Teteks - 11th.

Author: bugylibicska
Date: 06-07-2013, 03:19
Edited by: bugylibicska
at: 06-07-2013, 03:26

That`s a pretty weak argument to support the claim of Lithuania`s superiority over Macedonia. Right now:
39. Macedonia
43. Lithuania
In reality both countries belong to the weaker footballing nations, no difference between them in strength. The fact is I expect Pyunik to advance vs. St.Patrick`s and you give no chance to Pyunik at all.
@bugylibicska
``Their potential opponent comes from the game of Zalgiris Vilnius-St. Patrick`s Athletic and I expect Pyunik in the 3rd round of EL.``
@shisraelit
``if pyunik passes this round,against st patricks they have no chance...sorry bugylibicska...``
@Lorric
``I also think whoever wins the St. Patrick's match will beat whoever wins the Pyunik match. Heavy favourites for me.``

Thanks God it`ll be decided on the ground, but every sane neutral can see the difference between measured optimism and overblown cockiness.
I could be wrong, I`m very aware of it, but it seems you wouldn`t even consider this option for yourself. Let`s hope you won`t have to eat your words.

Re: Armenia
Author: Lorric Date: 06-07-2013, 06:17	The main point is the strength of Zalgiris vs. the strength of Teteks. And let's not forget Armenia's lowly position in the rankings. I wouldn't be falling out of my chair if Pyunik end up in Q3, but I would consider it an upset.

Re: Armenia
Author: TimJohnson Date: 06-07-2013, 13:30	Arrived home late last night. Very enjoyable trip. Aktobe were the better side and deserved their win. If St Pats play there and any supporter would like any information please contact me on tim.johnson1967@ntlworld.com

Author: bugylibicska
Date: 09-07-2013, 23:09

Well, instead of a nice day for Armenia, it ended in failure! Shirak lost 1:0 in San Marino vs. Tre Penne in the 2nd leg. They`ve advanced, but couldn`t contribute to improve Armenia`s place in the ranking and have no chance vs. Partizan Beograd in the 2nd round.
MIKA at least collected a point, but were dumped out by Rudar Pljevlja with this 1:1 result. They couldn`t held on to their 1:0 lead and got a goal 5 minutes from time.
So, Pyunik is the only hope left, they must win vs. Teteks on Thursday and collect some more points in the 2nd round.

Re: Armenia
Author: eoinh Date: 10-07-2013, 00:09	@Tim Was in Armenia a few years ago myself for a Holiday after reading a book about the country. But I'm a Cork City supporter not a Pats fan. Saw a fair bit of the country and met a good deal of expat Armenians who were visiting their homeland. Its a nation I have a soft spot for. Having said that if Pats come up against FC Pyunik I hope they win.

Re: Armenia
Author: bugylibicska Date: 11-07-2013, 20:02	So, Pyunik won 1:0 vs. Teteks Tetovo with a goal scored in the last minute! Gandzasar lost in Aktobe, but I expected that. I don`t think Shirak have a chance even for a draw vs. Partizan, but I trust Pyunik will get some points for Armenia and overhaul their best year in the ranking!

Re: Armenia
Author: mspm89 Date: 11-07-2013, 22:56	The two teams who were favorites advanced. Kind of a "passsed" test, but with the bare minimum if you ask me. @bugylibicska: tying last year's points would require Pyunik at least winning 1 more game and drawing another, which implies advancing to ELQ3 actually. I guess they have a chance against Zalgiris, but being realist, Partizan won't let Shirak score even one point.

Re: Armenia
Author: shisraelit Date: 11-07-2013, 23:36	Have you see the pyunik game? Their viCtory was deserved?

Re: Armenia
Author: shisraelit Date: 11-07-2013, 23:36	Have you see the pyunik game? Their victory was deserved?

Author: bugylibicska
Date: 12-07-2013, 01:23

``@bugylibicska: tying last year's points would require Pyunik at least winning 1 more game and drawing another, which implies advancing to ELQ3 actually. I guess they have a chance against Zalgiris, but being realist, Partizan won't let Shirak score even one point.``
I don`t think so. Last year they`d 0.875 and now they`ve 0.750. So, to tie last year, ONE DRAW is enough for Pyunik. To surpass last year points, they need only ONE WIN, without even advancing. So, I think they can do it! What`s more I still think they`re going to advance with some luck! So, everything is OK, I`m only disappointed of Shirak`s loss in San Marino!

Re: Armenia
Author: shisraelit Date: 12-07-2013, 02:32	zalgiris is a good team,too good for pyunik,but if in 1st leg zalgiris win 3-0 or more,maybe in 2nd leg a draw or a lucky win is possible...

Re: Armenia
Author: bugylibicska Date: 12-07-2013, 04:48	``I watched the highlights of teteks-pyunik and the game was dominated by teteks(relegated in macedonia) so if pyunik passes this round,against st patricks they have no chance...sorry bugylibicska...`` Where is St. Patrick`s my ``expert`` friend! Are you riding toward happiness with changing horses like in the time of the Pony Express. Sorry is your name and mine is bugylibicska.

Re: Armenia
Author: shisraelit Date: 12-07-2013, 12:11	I thought st patricks after first leg was favourite but i think both st patricks and zalgiris are more strong than pyunik. One thing is defeat (with difficult) a team relegated in macedonia,other thing is eliminate the first team in ireland. However we will see...

Re: Armenia
Author: Lorric Date: 12-07-2013, 14:04	@ bugylibicska Are you speaking of me? Remember, it was never about St. Patrick's. I've always said whoever wins the match will be the favourite. I expect Zalgiris to win.

Author: bugylibicska
Date: 12-07-2013, 15:26

@Lorric,
No. Yes, I remember. The reality is that Suduva were dumped out by Turnovo (a village of 900 something in Macedonia) and Kruoja were crushed by Dinamo Minsk with a 8:0 aggregate. These are teams from Lithuania. Zalgiris Vilnius are the only one that made the 2nd round, not because they`re so good, but St. Patrick`s are even weaker than them. So, talking about Zalgiris being a heavy favourite vs. Pyunik is just wishful thinking without any base. We don`t have to wait long...

Author: mspm89
Date: 15-07-2013, 03:45

@bugylibicska, you're right, i was looking at the table before Bert made the latest updates. So, if Pyunik eliminates Zalgiris, Armenia might even break the 1.000 barrier, nice.

Anyway, getting out of the bottom 6 seems out of reach. The league would need consistency. Right now though, we don't know the changes to be made for the introduction of Gibraltar, so bottom 6 might not be an important figure anymore.

Re: Armenia
Author: paul7 Date: 15-07-2013, 09:22	Shisraelit,What makes you to think Zalgiris a better than Pyunik? In basketball maybe,in football i doubt.personally i give 90 % chances to Pyunik to advance to the next round.

Re: Armenia
Author: shisraelit Date: 15-07-2013, 15:36 Edited by: shisraelit at: 15-07-2013, 15:37	simply because zalgiris has eliminated st.patricks,who is actually the first in ireland championship,on the other hand pyunik has eliminated with much problems a team that last year was relegated in macedonia second division....i give zalgiris 90\100 chances ...

Re: Armenia
Author: bugylibicska Date: 15-07-2013, 17:04	The odds at William Hill: Zalgiris-Pyunik 1.53 3.60 5.00 so they favour Zalgiris. I personally hope that Pyunik will advance, but it will be pretty close whomever succeed. Certainly the chance is not 90% for either one, if so, why not bet your house on it, looks like easy money! Or maybe you two just trying to troll each others, if not out to lunch!

Re: Armenia
Author: bugylibicska Date: 17-07-2013, 17:01	Shirak-Partizan 1:1 and Armenia tied their best record in the last 5 years. It`s up to Pyunik to break the record now!

Re: Armenia
Author: paul7 Date: 17-07-2013, 21:48	I watched the game between Shirak and Partizan.very unlucky Shirak was.they deserved to win the game the way they play,but in the end just draw,and little chances after 1-1.Partizan look very poor.

Re: Armenia
Author: shisraelit Date: 18-07-2013, 00:07	Tomorrow zalgiris-pyunik(and other 38 games) can t wait!!! Let s go vilnius.

Re: Armenia
Author: bugylibicska Date: 18-07-2013, 23:39	Zalgiris-Pyunik 2:0, well I`m disappointed of course, nothing personal, but feel let down by Pyunik. I see now little hope for advancing (not giving up just yet), but they should at least collect some points with a win or draw in Yerevan and help Armenia break their record.

Re: Armenia
Author: shisraelit Date: 19-07-2013, 00:30 Edited by: shisraelit at: 19-07-2013, 00:30	And so my prediction was right for zalgiris-pyunik. However pyunik in the 2nd leg can obtain at least a draw for armenian poor coefficent...

Author: bugylibicska
Date: 19-07-2013, 01:48
Edited by: bugylibicska
at: 19-07-2013, 01:49

``And so my prediction was right for zalgiris-pyunik. However pyunik in the 2nd leg can obtain at least a draw for armenian poor coefficent...``
You just can`t wait until the fat lady sings. Winning 2:0 is impressive, but not impossible to turn it around. You`ve talked about 90% chance for Zalgiris to advance even before the game and 3:0 and more...I was wrong in overestimating Pyunik or maybe underestimating Zalgiris, but I`ve said it`ll be close in aggregate. Zalgiris have now the upperhand for sure, but even now it`s less than 90% that they`ll progress. I`m afraid, Pyunik might win, but only 1:0 or 2:1, so won`t advance, but we`ll see.

Re: Armenia
Author: Lorric Date: 19-07-2013, 02:12	Heh. I was thinking that. 2-0 is too early to declare some sort of triumph.

Re: Armenia
Author: shisraelit Date: 24-07-2013, 00:18	With the win of nomme kalju today, estonia pass armenia in the ranking.

Re: Armenia
Author: Lorric Date: 24-07-2013, 06:02	Now that wasn't in the script, was it? Armenia have been put back in the bottom 4.

Re: Armenia
Author: mspm89 Date: 24-07-2013, 08:17	Yep, too bad about that. The news here though is the AWFUL campaign of the Finnish teams, unless some kind of miracle happens on Thu. Staying with Armenia, Shirak is kind of alive, but we've already witnesses a huge surprise with BATE and those don't come in packets. Pyunik will need to step up for Armenia to have a chance of leaving the bottom 4.

Re: Armenia
Author: bugylibicska Date: 24-07-2013, 23:01	Partizan Beograd - Shirak Gyumri 0:0, huge surprise, Shirak came so close to cause a sensation! Anyway, at least they made up for the loss in San Marino. Armenia broke their record and now the new record: 1.000. And Pyunik are still alive!

Re: Armenia
Author: Todor Date: 24-07-2013, 23:07	A win by Pyunik and Armenia might jump 2 places ahead, if Prestantyn lose and Levadia don't win.

Re: Armenia
Author: mspm89 Date: 25-07-2013, 21:27	So, it's over for Armenia this year. At least they got some points this time. But with other nations in the same zone of the ranking doing great improvements too, it's hard to tell if they're going to be advancing places soon.

Re: Armenia
Author: bugylibicska Date: 25-07-2013, 23:10	Well, Pyunik crashed out with a 1:1 draw vs. Zalgiris Vilnius. They`re leading 1:0 until the 87th minute, when Zalgiris managed to score and extinguished Pyunik`s hope for advancing. They`re pretty close, as I`ve expected, but still I`m disappointed. Nevertheless, Armenia managed to collect 1.125 points, which is their new record.

Author: mspm89
Date: 26-07-2013, 00:09
Edited by: mspm89
at: 26-07-2013, 00:13

bugylibicska: Actually, their record is 1.333 in 2007/08. Checking those results, i see that MIKA Ashtarak got really close to UEFA Cup 1R proper but was stopped by Artmedia 3-2 on aggregate. And Pyunik defeated Derry in CLQ1 but in the next round Shakhtar proved too much.

It's possible that Armenia stays out of the bottom 4 for 2014, if Nomme Kalju loses both legs vs Plzen (which is more than plausible).

Re: Armenia
Author: bugylibicska Date: 26-07-2013, 00:11	I should have added in the last 5 seasons, you`re right!

Re: Armenia
Author: shisraelit Date: 26-07-2013, 19:12 Edited by: shisraelit at: 26-07-2013, 19:16	As i predicted pyunik obtain a draw with zalgiris in the second leg,at least one point for the coefficent @mspm89:nomme kalju must lose also the 2 matches in the play-off round of el,however is probable...

Re: Armenia
Author: bugylibicska Date: 26-07-2013, 19:42	It would be better if Armenia won`t climb out from the last four, but take seriously the games in the 1st round and collect two wins next season.

Author: Zarastro
Date: 29-07-2013, 17:03
Edited by: Zarastro
at: 29-07-2013, 17:04

Out of curiosity, how have Armenian football fans reacted to the news off Mikhitaryan's joining Borussia Dortmund? Are they happy or disappointed that he did not join other clubs like Anzhi or Liverpool? And how is his status in the national team affected by the decision?

In Dortmund he has already conquered the hearts of the fans with his humble attitude and he is apparently well-liked by his new team mates.

Re: Armenia
Author: Lorric Date: 30-07-2013, 02:08	Surely they should be happy he went to Dortmund, Dortmund is a much better choice than the other two in every department.

Re: Armenia
Author: JohnHarts Date: 30-07-2013, 16:56	"It's possible that Armenia stays out of the bottom 4 for 2014" Surely that doesn't make any difference? With Gibraltar due to take part, first qualifying round will be current bottom 5 plus Gibraltar.

Re: Armenia
Author: Lorric Date: 30-07-2013, 17:01	Good point.

Re: Armenia
Author: mspm89 Date: 30-07-2013, 18:48	I mentioned something on that subject a while ago. The fact is, we don't know how the configuration will be. Perhaps the bottom 8 or 10 will have to start from Q1.

Author: Forza-AZ
Date: 30-07-2013, 19:22

@mspm89

For 2014/15 no big chances will be done, so it is just a matter of creating spots for the Gibraltar teams (1 in CLQ1 and 2 in ELQ1). That just means that 1 team will have to start in CLQ1 in stead of CLQ2, and 2 teams will have to start in ELQ1 in stead of ELQ2.

For 2015/16 there will be some changes to the access list, and since it is not known yet what that chances exactly are, you also can't say which spot in the ranking a country needs to get spots in the different QR's.