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Author: Talesin
Date: 06-05-2013, 19:08
| While most nations still haven't finished last season cups, Norway have started even earlier than usual and are well underway with this seasons cup.
The 2nd round (round of 64) was played last week with these results:
Strømmen(1D) – Alta(2D) 2–3
Kvik Halden(2D) – Sarpsborg 08(PL) 1–0
Follo(1D)– Bærum(2D) 1–1 (2–1 AET)
Kjelsås(2D) – Stabæk(1D)3–4
Ullern(3D) – Vålerenga(PL) 1–8
Asker(2D) – Strømsgodset(PL) 2–1
Ullensaker/Kisa(1D) – Tromsdalen(2D) 2–0
Kongsvinger(1D)– Raufoss(2D) 1–1 (1–1 AET, 5–3 on penalties)
Elverum(1D) – Nybergsund Trysil(2D) 1–0
HamKam(1D) – KFUM Oslo(2D) 3–1
Birkebeineren(2D) – Hønefoss(PL) 1–1 (1–1 AET, 2–4 on penalties)
Sandefjord(1D)– Tønsberg(2D) 2–0
Pors(2D) – Odd(PL) 1–1 (1–2 AET)
Flekkerøy(2D) – Sandnes Ulf(PL) 2–0
Egersund(2D) – Start(PL) 2–3
Bryne(1D)– Vindbjart(2D) 3–0
Vidar(2D) – Viking(PL) 0–3
Øystese(3D) – Brann(PL) 1–6
Nest Sotra(2D) – Haugesund(PL) 2–4
Åsane(2D) – Hødd(1D) 0–1
Florø – Aalesund(PL) 0–5
Træff(2D) – Sogndal(PL) 3–3 (3–3 AET, 4–5 on penalties)
Strindheim(2D) – Rosenborg(PL) 0–5
Tiller(3D) – Ranheim(1D) 3–4
Harstad(2D) – Bodø/Glimt(1D) 1–1 (1–2 AET)
Fløya(3D) – Tromsø(PL) 2–3
Moss(2D) – Fredrikstad(1D) 0–2
Grorud(2D) – Lillestrøm(PL) 2–2 (2–4 AET)
Mjøndalen(1D) – Lyn(2D) 1–1 (2–1 AET)
Vard Haugesund(1D) – Fyllingsdalen(2D) 1–0
Byåsen(2D) – Molde(PL) 1–5
Levanger(2D) – Kristiansund(1D) 2–2 (4–2 AET)
The biggest upset was last seasons silver medalist Strømsgodset getting knocked out together with 2 other premier league teams.
In addition 2 1 division teams also got knocked out.
The 3rd round has been set up (not drawn) where the 13 remaining PL teams is seeded + three 1 Division teams.
Wednesday 29 may:
Kvik Halden(2D) – Lillestrøm(PL)
Asker(2D) – Vålerenga(PL)
ODD(PL) – Sandefjord(1D)
Viking(PL) – Bryne(1D)
Vard Haugesund(1D) – FK Haugesund(PL)
Brann(PL) – Mjøndalen(1D)
Sogndal(PL) – Ull/Kisa(1D)
Hødd(1D) – Molde(PL)
Ranheim(1D) – Aalesund(PL)
Levanger(2D) – Rosenborg(PL)
Bodø/Glimt(1D) – Elverum(1D)
Tromsø(PL) – Follo(1D)
Alta(2D) – Hønefoss(PL)
Thursday 30 may:
Stabæk(1D) - Fredrikstad(1D)
Kongsvinger(1D) – HamKam(1D)
Flekkerøy(2D) – Start(PL) |
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Author: Lorric
Date: 06-05-2013, 21:45
Edited by: Lorric
at: 06-05-2013, 21:48 | Didn't they draw the unseeded teams? How did they decide who gets who and who plays home/away?
League champion vs defending cup holder:
Hødd(1D) – Molde(PL) |
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Author: Talesin
Date: 07-05-2013, 16:12
Edited by: Talesin
at: 07-05-2013, 16:13 | No, Norway got a really weird system where nothing is random until round 4. And even then home games is not awarded randomly either.
Its abit complicated and varies abit from year to year, but some basic rules are:
-They always look at regions and try to have unseeded teams close to seeded teams meeting eachother. Which is why Hødd is meeting Molde.
-Teams that have met the last couple of years can't meet eachother again.
- 2 division teams have this year automatically gotten a Premier League team at home.
- Home games is decided by who has most away games. Which is usually a moot point as PL teams always plays away in the first 2 rounds. While 1 division teams can get home games in round 2. If they have equally many away games, the team with longest "travel distance" gets the home game. Which is really nice if you're a team from northern Norway with miles away from the closest team.....
However sometimes they get creative due to a team not having an opponent fitting with these rules. Like Alta, the northernmost team still in the cup.
Having met both Tromsø and Rosenborg the last 2 years, they instead got Hønefoss who is way down in eastern Norway, not that far from Oslo. While Tromsø got Follo who's from a place south of Oslo. |
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Author: Lorric
Date: 07-05-2013, 18:31
Edited by: Lorric
at: 07-05-2013, 18:32 | Thanks for the information. Interesting stuff. For the most part it probably works out well, but doesn't that suck for Alta that 2 out of every 3 years they're going to get fed to 2 of Norway's best teams? |
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Author: Talesin
Date: 07-05-2013, 18:56
| They relegated from 1 division last year, so while they were in 1 division they actually had 2 years in a row where they met the other northern 1 division team Bodø/Glimt and then Ranheim (Rosenborg's little brother) the year after.
As those 4 is the only middle and northward teams in PL/1D in Norway and they've played them all the last 3 years, thats probably why they got first Strømmen (situated east of Oslo) and now Hønefoss.
To break the cycle and give them something new to play.
Tromsø was also relieved getting something new as they also get stuck in this cycle. But they do get compensated due to longer traveling distance, which gives them higher chance for a home game. |
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Author: Talesin
Date: 31-05-2013, 14:47
| 3rd round of the norwegian cup was played on wednesday and thursday.
Wednesday:
Bodø/Glimt(1D) - Elverum(1D) 2-0
Levanger(2D) - Rosenborg(PL) 1-4
Asker(2D) - Vålerenga(PL) 2-3
Brann(PL) - Mjøndalen(1D) 1-2
Hødd(1D) - Molde(PL) 1-1 (2-2 aet, 4-5 apk)
Kvik Halden (2D) - Lillestrøm(PL) 0-2
Odd(PL) - Sandefjord(1D) 2-0
Alta(2D) - Hønefoss(PL) 2-1
Sogndal(PL) - Ullensaker/Kisa(1D) 4-3
Tromsø(PL) - Follo(1D) 3-1
Vard Haugesund(2D) - Haugesund(PL) 2-5
Viking(PL) - Bryne(1D) 2-4
Ranheim(1D) - Ålesund(PL) 2-2 (4-2 aet)
Thursday:
Stabæk(1D) - Fredrikstad(1D) 3-1
Flekkerøy(2D) - Start(PL) 1-2
Kongsvinger(1D) - Hamkam(1D) 0-1
That leaves nine PL teams, six 1D teams and one 2D team left in the cup.
The 4th round will be drawn on sunday evening. |
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Author: Lorric
Date: 31-05-2013, 17:27
Edited by: Lorric
at: 31-05-2013, 17:28 | So, Molde scraped through the cup holder vs. league champion match.
Well done to Alta. |
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Author: Talesin
Date: 31-05-2013, 18:19
| Not really a huge accomplishment from Alta as Hønefoss have had a nightmare month when it comes to injuries.
Several key players was out, including their toppscorer who got injured last league game.
And it continued in that game as Hønefoss got a player knocked unconcious, who had to be sent to the hospital, in addition to yet another injury on a second player.
Still, its a good run getting this far as a second division team. |
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Author: Talesin
Date: 02-06-2013, 20:25
| 4th round in the norwegian cup has been drawn and will be played 19 or 20 June.
Start(PL) - Stabæk(1D)
Lillestrøm(PL) - Bryne(1D)
Molde(PL) - Ranheim(1D)
Mjøndalen(1D) - Hamkam(1D)
Bodø/Glimt(1D) - Odd(PL)
Rosenborg(PL) - Tromsø(PL)
Vålerenga(PL) - Sogndal(PL)
Haugesund(PL) - Alta(2D) |
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Author: Forza-AZ
Date: 15-06-2013, 20:18
Edited by: Forza-AZ
at: 15-06-2013, 20:20 | Draw German Cup round 1 (2-4 August):
Arminia Bielefeld (2)-Eintracht Braunschweig
Karlsruher SC (2)-VfL Wolfsburg
SV Sandhausen (2/3)-1. FC Nürnberg *
1. FC Saarbrücken (3)-Werder Bremen
SV Darmstadt 98 (3)-Borussia Mönchengladbach
RB Leipzig (3)-FC Augsburg
FV Illertissen (4)-Eintracht Frankfurt
SV Lippstadt 08 (4)-Bayer 04 Leverkusen
Fortuna Köln (4)-FSV Mainz 05
BSV Schwarz-Weiß Rehden (4)-FC Bayern München
TSG Neustrelitz (4)-SC Freiburg
SV Wilhelmshaven (4)-Borussia Dortmund
SC Victoria Hamburg (4)-Hannover 96
VfR Neumünster (4)-Hertha BSC
SV Schott Jena (5)-Hamburger SV
SG Aumund-Vegesack (5)-1899 Hoffenheim
BFC Dynamo (5)-VfB Stuttgart
FC Nöttingen (5)-FC Schalke 04
Erzgebirge Aue (2)/MSV Duisburg (?)-SC Paderborn (2) *
SC Preußen Münster (3)-FC St. Pauli (2)
VfL Osnabrück (3)-Erzgebirge Aue (2)/MSV Duisburg (2) *
SSV Jahn Regensburg (3)-Union Berlin (2)
1. FC Heidenheim (3)-TSV 1860 München (2)
SC Wiedenbrück (4)-Fortuna Düsseldorf (2)
Eintracht Trier (4)-1. FC Köln (2)
Optik Rathenow (4)-FSV Frankfurt (2)
TSV 1860 Rosenheim (4)-VfR Aalen (2)
1. FC Magdeburg (4)-Energie Cottbus (2)
TSG Pfeddersheim (5)-SpVgg Greuther Fürth (2)
Sportfreunde Baumberg (5)-FC Ingolstadt (2)
Bahlinger SC (5)-VfL Bochum (2)
Neckarsulmer Sport-Union (6)-1. FC Kaiserslautern (2)
*: If MSV Duisburg gets a license for 2.Bundesliga, they play away against Osnabrück, otherwise they play at home against Paderborn. Erzgebirge Aue takes the other spot in the draw. The level Sandhausen plays at depends on the license of MSV Duisburg. |
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Author: fillow
Date: 17-06-2013, 15:21
| BELARUSIAN CUP 2013/14
~ Preliminary Round (29 May) ~
6 amateur clubs against 6 Second League (3rd level) clubs
Smolevichi (Am) - Orsha (III) 1-3
ALF-Legea Minsk (Am) - Molodechno-2013 (III) 2-1
Gomelsteklo Kostyukovka (Am) - Partizan-MTZ Minsk (III) 2-3
Voronovo (Am) - Neman Mosty (III) 0-9
Gorki (Am) - Zhlobin (III) 2-2 aet, pen. 1-4
Zapadny (Am) - Kobrin (III) 0-3
~ First Round (12 June) ~
Six winners of Preliminarly round joined by six more clubs from Second League and 10 clubs from First League (2nd level)
Baranovichi (III) - Gomelzheldortrans (III) 0-2
Zvezda-BGU Minsk (III) - Khimik Svetlogorsk (II) 1-0
Orsha (III) - Smorgon (II) 0-4
Livadiya Dzerzhinsk (III) - Granit Mikashevichi (II) 0-5
Osipovichi (III) - Smolevichi-STI (II) 0-6
Zhlobin (III) - Isloch Minsk Raion (II) 3-2
ALF-Legea Minsk (Am) - Vedrich-97 Rechytsa (II) 1-11
Neman Mosty (III) - Polotsk (II) 1-1 aet, pen. 2-3
ALF-2007 Minsk (III) - Slonim (II) 0-3 aet
Kobrin (III) - Bereza-2010 (II) 0-3
Partizan-MTZ Minsk (III) - Vitebsk (II) walkover (Partizan failed to provide a pitch)
~ Second Round (27/28 July) ~
11 winners of R1 are joined by 5 more clubs from First League and 8 clubs from Premier League. Another 4 PL clubs that qualified for European Cups (BATE, Shakhter, Dinamo Minsk, Minsk) will join in next round
Slonim (II) - Dinamo Brest
SKVICH Minsk (II) - Dnepr Mogilev
Polotsk (II) - Volna Pinsk (II)
Smolevichi-STI (II) - Belshina Bobruisk
Granit Mikashevichi (II) - Naftan Novopolotsk
Smorgon (II) - Lida (II)
Vedrich-97 Rechytsa (II) - Neman Grodno
Gomelzheldortrans (III) - Slutsk (II)
Bereza-2010 (II) - Gomel
Vitebsk (II) - Gorodeya (II)
Zhlobin (III) - Slaviya Mozyr
Zvezda-BGU (III) - Torpedo-BelAZ Zhodino |
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Author: Forza-AZ
Date: 17-06-2013, 17:18
| English League Cup round 1 draw (6-8 August)
Shrewsbury Town (3) - Bolton Wanderers (2)
Preston North End (3) - Blackpool (2)
Oldham Athletic (3) - Derby County (2)
Carlisle United (3) - Blackburn Rovers (2)
Huddersfield Town (2) - Bradford City (3)
Rotherham United (3) - Sheffield Wednesday (2)
Stevenage (3) - Ipswich Town (2)
Middlesbrough (2) - Accrington Stanley (4)
Doncaster Rovers (2) - Rochdale (4)
Barnsley (2) - Scunthorpe United (4)
York City (4) - Burnley (2)
Nottingham Forest (2) - Hartlepool United (4)
Leeds United (2) - Chesterfield (4)
AFC Bournemouth (2) - Portsmouth (4)
Wycombe Wanderers (4) - Leicester City (2)
Exeter City (4) - Queens Park Rangers (2)
Charlton Athletic (2) - Oxford United (4)
Southend United (4) - Yeovil Town (2)
Millwall (2) - Wimbledon (4)
Birmingham City (2) - Plymouth Argyle (4)
Bristol Rovers (4) - Watford (2)
Brighton and Hove Albion (2) - Newport County (4)
Port Vale (3) - Walsall (3)
Gillingham (3) - Bristol City (3)
Leyton Orient (3) - Coventry City (3)
Colchester United (3) - Peterborough United (3)
Bury (4) - Crewe Alexandra (3)
Tranmere Rovers (3) - Mansfield Town (4)
Notts County (3) - Fleetwood Town (4)
Sheffield United (3) - Burton Albion (4)
Morecambe (4) - Wolverhampton Wanderers (3)
Brentford (3) - Dagenham and Redbridge (4)
Swindon Town (3) - Torquay United (4)
Cheltenham Town (4) - Crawley Town (3)
Northampton Town (4) - Milton Keynes (3)
The teams that play in CL and EL start in round 3. The other 1st level teams + Reading (2) start in round 2. |
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Author: shisraelit
Date: 19-06-2013, 01:29
Edited by: shisraelit
at: 20-06-2013, 10:18 | tomorrow 1\4 final in kazakistan
AKTOBE-ordabasy 3-1
astana- shaktar karaganda 1-2
irtish pavlodar- tobol 2-1
taraz- a.uralsk 3-0 |
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Author: shisraelit
Date: 19-06-2013, 01:35
Edited by: shisraelit
at: 20-06-2013, 10:19 | and 1\8 finals in iceland:
bolungarvik-ibv vestmannaeyjar 0 1
grotta- magni 3-2
sindri-fylkir 0-3
vikingur reykjavik-tindastoll 2-1
leiknir reykjavik- kr reykjavik 0-3
stjarnan-hafnarfjordar
akranes-breidablik
olafsvik- fram |
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Author: shisraelit
Date: 19-06-2013, 01:38
| in finland we will have the semi final in august:
jjk- kups
marienhamn-rovaniemi(i want see santa klaus play in el...) |
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Author: shisraelit
Date: 19-06-2013, 01:45
| in far oer:
semifinals(second leg 7 august):
vikingur-nsi runavik 3 2
ki-eb streymur 1 1 |
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Author: shisraelit
Date: 20-06-2013, 10:31
Edited by: shisraelit
at: 20-06-2013, 14:08 | 4th round in norway:
bodo glimt-odd 2-1
haugesund-alta 4-3
lillestrom-bryne 2-0
mjondalen-hamkam 3-2
molde-ranheim 6-0(molde is waking up?)
rosenborg-tromso 2-1(another year without victories for tromso,sigh....)
start-stabaek 2-1
songdal-valerenga 26 june
draw 1\4 finals:
haugesund-bodoglimt
molde-mjondalen(molde not unfortunately...)
start-lillestrom
rosenborg-valerenga\songdal |
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Author: Talesin
Date: 20-06-2013, 12:40
| Someone allready posted the norwegian results, but i'll post it again with the correct names etc.
Start(PL) - Stabæk(1D) 2-1
Lillestrøm(PL) - Bryne(1D) 0-0 (2-0 aet)
Molde(PL) - Ranheim(1D) 6-0
Mjøndalen(1D) - Hamkam(1D) 4-3
Bodø/Glimt(1D) - Odd(PL) 2-1
Rosenborg(PL) - Tromsø(PL) 2-1
Haugesund(PL) - Alta(2D) 3-2
Vålerenga(PL) - Sogndal(PL) will be played wednesday 26/6.
The quarterfinal draw:
Haugesund(PL) - Bodø/Glimt(1D)
Molde(PL) - Mjøndalen(1D)
Start(PL) - Lillestrøm(PL)
And either Rosenborg(PL) - Vålerenga(PL) or Sogndal(PL) - Rosenborg(PL) depending on who wins the last game.
The first 3 games will be played 3 July, while i do not know when Rosenborg will play their quarter-final since they will be playing in EL at that time. |
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Author: Lorric
Date: 20-06-2013, 14:30
Edited by: Lorric
at: 20-06-2013, 14:31 | That cup represents Molde's only realistic way into Europe next season, so they need to take it seriously.
I see the draw has been very kind to them in the QF, another home game against lower league opposition. They haven't had to face a top league team yet. |
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Author: Forza-AZ
Date: 04-07-2013, 15:12
| Draw Dutch Cup round 1 and 2
Round 1 (27-29 August)
All teams from a Saturday league had to draw a team from a Sunday league.
7.Scheveningen (3)-VVSB (3)
10.Noordwijk (3)-WKE (3)
12.Capelle (3)-Chabab (3)
13.HHC Hardenberg (3)-JVC Cuijk (3)
15.IJsselmeervogels (3)-FC Lienden (3)
18.Kozakken Boys (3)-Be Quick 1887 (3)
4.De Zouaven (4)-Ter Leede (3)
1.FC Lisse (3)-TEC (5)
5.SHO (5)-AFC (3)
16.OWIOS (5)-EVV (3)
11.Volkel (8)-Rijnsburgse Boys (3)
2.OJC Rosmalen (4)-HSV Hoek (4)
9.Harkemase Boys (4)-Rohda Raalte (4)
14.DVS'33 Ermelo (4)-Hollandia (4)
17.SC Genemuiden (4)-Deurne (4)
3.SVL (5)-EHC (4)
6.DFS (5)-Sneek Wit Zwart (4)
8.RVVH (4)-JOS/Watergraafsmeer (5)
ASWH (4), Smitshoek (4), Wilhelmina'08 (6) and HBS (3) received a bye
Round 2 (24-26 September)
The 6 teams that play CL and EL could not draw each other.
If teams from an amateur league (3rd or lower level + Achilles'29) drew a team from a professional league (1st or 2nd level - Achilles'29), then the lower level team plays at home.
RKC Waalwijk-Heracles Almelo
sc Heerenveen-FC Twente
AZ-Sparta Rotterdam (2)
Ajax-FC Volendam (2)
FC Utrecht-FC Den Bosch (2)
Feyenoord-FC Dordrecht (2)
PSV-Telstar (2)
PEC Zwolle-Fortuna Sittard (2)
Katwijk (3)-SC Cambuur
GVVV (3)-ADO Den Haag
winner 5-FC Groningen
winner 11-Roda JC Kerkrade
winner 14-Go Ahead Eagles
Smitshoek (4)-NAC Breda
winner 9-NEC
winner 8-Vitesse
De Graafschap (2)-Excelsior (2)
FC Oss (2)-VVV Venlo (2)
Excelsior'31 (3)-Willem II (2)
winner 15-Helmond Sport (2)
Achilles'29 (2)-HSC'21 (3)
winner 12-Almere City FC (2)
winner 1-MVV Maastricht (2)
winner 17-FC Emmen (2)
winner 3-FC Eindhoven (2)
winner 18-winner 7
Barendrecht (3)-winner 13
winner 4-winner 10
De Treffers (3)-winner 16
winner 2-HBS (3)
ASWH (4)-ADO'20 (3)
Wilhelmina'08 (6)-winner 6 |
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Author: Talesin
Date: 04-07-2013, 21:44
| 3 of the quarterfinals of the norwegian cup has been played.
The remaining one is Rosenborg - Vålerenga, which will either be played 21 august or after the EL playoff.
Haugesund(PL) - Bodø/Glimt(1D) 1-1 (5-2 a.pk)
Molde(PL) - Mjøndalen(1D) 2-0
Start(PL) - Lillestrøm(PL) 0-1 |
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Author: Lorric
Date: 04-07-2013, 22:28
Edited by: Lorric
at: 04-07-2013, 22:29 | 3rd, 4th and 5th tier teams in the Dutch Cup. And one from the 8th tier! How did that happen?
Molde win again. Two games away, potentially one game away, from Europe, though they've had the gentlest of rides to get there. |
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Author: Forza-AZ
Date: 04-07-2013, 23:18
| @Lorric
There are 2 ways to qualifiy for the Dutch Cup:
1) via the league (all 1st and 2nd level teams and the top 12 of each 3rd level qualify)
2) via the 6 regional amateur cups in which all teams from level 3 and below can participate (best 4 of each of these that haven't qualified yet via the league qualify)
Volkel from the 8th level had a good Cup run in their regional Cup and even reached the final. The beat some 6th level teams and a 4th level team. |
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Author: mspm89
Date: 05-07-2013, 07:25
| @Forza: can you explain the situation with that Achilles team? How did they get a license to play in the Eerste Divisie if they're remaining amateurs? And do they expect to realistically aim higher than bottom place and 15 or so points? |
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Author: Forza-AZ
Date: 05-07-2013, 08:50
| @mspm89
Achilles'29 got a special status for 2 years. Since 2 2nd level teams went bankrupt during last season (AGOVV and Veendam) and no 3rd level team were interested in promotion with the regular terms, the KNVB had a problem.
They didn't want to play the 2nd level with just 16 teams, so they invited both 3rd level champions (Katwijk and Achilles'29) and 2 reserve teams (Ajax 2 and FC Twente 2) to join the 2nd level at special terms. Achilles'29 accepted that while Katwijk declined. They were replaced by a 3rd reserve team (PSV 2) to bring the 2nd level to 20 teams next season.
Achilles'29 already beat some 2nd level teams in the Cup last seasons (Telstar and MVV in 2011/12). In 2010/11 they even beat 1st level Heracles Almelo. So with some reinforcements I think they will have a good team in the 2nd level and won't be at the bottom of the table. |
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Author: mspm89
Date: 06-07-2013, 00:16
| Thanks a lot for the response! So, even if they perform worse than the reserve teams, they might not even have to face relegation since 3rd level teams choose to decline promotion more often than not. So, it seems like a pretty nice deal for Achilles as long as they avoid incurring debts like Haarlem and Co. did. |
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Author: Lorric
Date: 06-07-2013, 06:15
| And thanks for the info on the 8th tier team. |
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Author: Forza-AZ
Date: 06-07-2013, 08:46
| @mspm89
In 2014 and 2015 promotion to the 2nd level still isn't mandatory, and there might even be no promotion at all even if a club can meet the licence criteria (that isn't completely clear yet).
The plan is that from 2016 onwards promotion will become mandatory, so from that year there will also be relegation from the 2nd level. |
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Author: luckyluke
Date: 15-07-2013, 14:48
| big surprise in austria:
LASK Linz (III) 0 – 0 (5–4 p) Rapid Wien (I) |
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Author: putje
Date: 16-07-2013, 20:31
| Belgian cup starts in the last weekend of july.
Round 1 and 2 are for teams from level 4 to 8.
If they hope to meet a top level team, they have a tough course since those 16 teams of the first devision enter only in round 6!
In Belgium too teams from level 5 on can qualify after a regional cup.
That way up to 280 teams participate in the national cup.
The level 7 team where I spend a little of my time, Erps Kwerps, managed to reach the national cup 1st round this year.
Only 12 games to Europe! |
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