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| Author: Lorric
Date: 13-04-2013, 16:15 | Previous Link: https://kassiesa.net/uefa//forum/view.php?archive=2012&topic=20121207080959.xml Here's one I can't wait to see the highlights for, just read about it. Scottish Cup Semi Final AET4 Hibernian - Falkirk (2) 3 Falkirk were 3-0 up at 30mins. Hibernian fans left in droves at that point and at half time, when it was still 3-0. I wonder how they must feel, they didn't believe in their team. Must have been one hell of a team talk at half time by manager Pat Fenlon. Hibernian also missed a penalty in the 2nd half, and supposedly won it with a fantastic goal. If Celtic win tomorrow, you can pencil in Hibernian for Europe (I know Celtic haven't clinched the title yet, but it's going to happen.) |
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| Author: mjohnson1989
Date: 13-04-2013, 20:10 | Couldn't believe the turnaround in the Hibernian v Falkirk game! |
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| Author: Lorric
Date: 13-04-2013, 20:16 Edited by: Lorric at: 13-04-2013, 20:17 | That's why we love this game! FA Cup Semi Final: 0 Millwall (2) - WIGAN 2 That takes care of the Millwall problem. Now damn it Wigan, get out of the relegation zone! |
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| Author: Lorric
Date: 13-04-2013, 20:29 Edited by: Lorric at: 13-04-2013, 20:41 | The highlights are up on the Scottish match, gonna watch it now! http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/scotland/22138073 Don't know if non-UK residents can see this. EDIT: Highlights don't disappoint. Watch them!  |
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| Author: mjohnson1989
Date: 13-04-2013, 20:51 | Looks like Wigan may be in Europe! Only way that won't happen now is if Chelsea win the Cup and somehow collapse to finish sixth in the league |
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| Author: Lorric
Date: 13-04-2013, 20:58 | Fifth. |
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| Author: mjohnson1989
Date: 13-04-2013, 21:11 | The three Europa League spots from England are FA Cup winners Capital One Cup winners Fifth in the Premier League Fifth gets Europa League anyway, so if a team wins the cup and finishes 5th, the cup place goes to the runner-up |
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| Author: Lorric
Date: 13-04-2013, 21:19 Edited by: Lorric at: 13-04-2013, 21:20 | No, that only happens if the Cup winner qualifies to the Champions League. |
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| Author: Lorric
Date: 13-04-2013, 21:38 | Europe has much to thank Wigan for: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22049714 You have been saved from the scourge. |
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| Author: Forza-AZ
Date: 14-04-2013, 08:55 | @mjohnson1989 Fifth gets Europa League anyway, so if a team wins the cup and finishes 5th, the cup place goes to the runner-up If the 5th placed team win the Cup, then they get the CW-EL-spot and the League-EL-spot goes to the 6th placed team. |
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| Author: rollo
Date: 14-04-2013, 11:26 | What if Chelsea win the Europa League this season and finishes 5th i Premier League? Will they qualify through the Title Holder berth or what? |
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| Author: mjohnson1989
Date: 14-04-2013, 13:08 | If Chelsea win the Europa League and win the FA Cup then the title holder entry won't be used, much the same as the Champions League in that respect |
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| Author: Lorric
Date: 14-04-2013, 16:14 | Scottish Cup Semi Final Different semi, same score: AET4 CELTIC - Dundee United 3 Hibernian will be in Europe. |
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| Author: mjohnson1989
Date: 14-04-2013, 16:31 | A great couple of semi-finals in Scotland this weekend. I'm guessing Hibernian's starting round is determined by the result of the final, given that Celtic are as good as champions |
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| Author: mjohnson1989
Date: 14-04-2013, 17:09 | Manchester United have now secured their place in the Group Stage |
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| Author: Lorric
Date: 14-04-2013, 17:12 | Yeah. Q2 if they lose, Q3 if they win. |
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| Author: Lorric
Date: 14-04-2013, 18:55 Edited by: Lorric at: 14-04-2013, 18:57 | FA Cup semi final 2 MANCHESTER CITY - Chelsea 1 Superb match. Ba's goal for Chelsea is one of the best goals I've seen in my life. Wigan will be in Europe. Hope they win the final to avoid having to qualify and hope they avoid relegation. EDIT: If they don't win the cup they'll have to get past two qualifiers. |
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| Author: mjohnson1989
Date: 14-04-2013, 19:01 | Obviously I'd love to see Wigan win the Cup given who they're up against. Would be great if they do get straight into the Group Stage as unless they are very lucky with their draws they may not make it through the qualifiers. For those that don't know, the FA Cup final will be on 11 May |
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| Author: Lorric
Date: 14-04-2013, 19:04 | There'll be a little preview of the final in 3 days. Premier League game, Manchester City vs Wigan. |
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| Author: Lorric
Date: 14-04-2013, 19:25 | I don't think there's much hope for Wigan to stay in the Premier League. Their run in is terrible: Manchester City (2nd) (A) West Ham (12th) (A) Tottenham (5th) (H) West Brom (8th) (A) Swansea (9th) (H) Arsenal (3rd) (A) Aston Villa (17th) (H)  |
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| Author: Forza-AZ
Date: 15-04-2013, 10:13 | @rollo What if Chelsea win the Europa League this season and finishes 5th i Premier League? Will they qualify through the Title Holder berth or what? In that case Chelsea will use the TH-spot and the spot they earned with the 5th place (either in the GS or Q4 depending on who wins the FA-cup) will be empty. |
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| Author: Forza-AZ
Date: 15-04-2013, 10:16 | @mjohnson1989 I'm guessing Hibernian's starting round is determined by the result of the final, given that Celtic are as good as champions That is correct. If Hibernian win the Cup they start in EL-Q3 and the 2nd and 3rd placed teams in the league start in EL-Q2. If Celtic win the Cup then the 2nd placed team in the league starts in EL-Q3 and the 3rd placed team and Hibernian start in EL-Q2. |
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| Author: apurvdanke
Date: 15-04-2013, 14:43 | If Fenerbahce finish 2nd in Super Lig and win Turkish Cup, then which EL spot will goto the cup finalist i.e. one of Trabzonspor, Sivasspor and Eskisehirspor? As Fener will be in CL 3rd qualifying round. |
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| Author: Lorric
Date: 15-04-2013, 14:55 | Q2 for Turk cup runner up. Q4 if they lift the cup. |
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| Author: luckyluke
Date: 15-04-2013, 15:20 | this can not be for Eskisehirspor since they are facing Fenerbahce in 1/2 finals |
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| Author: mjohnson1989
Date: 15-04-2013, 23:14 | Taca de Portugal Semi-Final 2nd Leg Benfica 1-1 Pacos de Ferreira (3-1) Benfica will play Guimares or Belenenses in the Final. The 2nd Leg will be played on Wednesday with Guimares leading 2-0 from the 1st Leg |
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| Author: Lorric
Date: 16-04-2013, 00:16 | I've just realised something. Benfica, Basel and Fenerbahce are all going for league, cup and Europa League trebles! |
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| Author: SirHenri
Date: 16-04-2013, 00:56 | Munich as well, they secured 1 titel, and have to semis left. |
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| Author: apurvdanke
Date: 16-04-2013, 10:33 | @Lorric Why Q2 for Turkish cup runner up and not Q4 slot? In this case will Q4 spot goto 3rd position in Super Lig? |
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| Author: Forza-AZ
Date: 16-04-2013, 12:03 Edited by: Forza-AZ at: 16-04-2013, 12:07 | @apurvdanke Because that are the UEFA-rules: -The Cup winner gets the best EL-spot -If the Cup winner is qualified for CL, then the losing finalist gets the worst EL-spot (unless they are already qualfied for EL via the league) Turkey has 3 EL-spots, 1 in Q4, 1 in Q3 and 1 in Q2. If Eskisehir, Trabzon or Sivas win the Cup they get the Q4 spot, 3rd in the league gets the Q3 spot and 4th in the league gets the Q2 spot. If Trabzon or Sivas lose the Cup final against Fenerbahçe, then they get the Q2 spot, 3rd in the league gets the Q4 spot and 4th in the league gets the Q3 spot. |
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| Author: spoonman
Date: 16-04-2013, 22:41 | DFB-Pokal, semi final: Bayern München 6-1 VfL Wolfsburg 1-0 Mandzukic 17' 2-0 Robben 35' 2-1 Diego 45' 3-1 Shaqiri 50' 4-1 Gomez 80' 5-1 Gomez 83' 6-1 Gomez 86' This means that the winner of tomorrow's second semi final (Stuttgart v Freiburg) will definitely play Europa League next season. |
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| Author: SirHenri
Date: 17-04-2013, 00:20 Edited by: SirHenri at: 17-04-2013, 00:23 | Knowing that Gomez got substitued in the 77th minute, this really was a remarkable hat trick ! Weird Bayern, they won every game this year (except that meaningless Arsenal-rematch). That makes 17 wins and this 1 loss in 18 matches in 2013. Can Barca stop their run ? |
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| Author: mjohnson1989
Date: 17-04-2013, 00:24 | Jupp Heynckes is certainly going out in style! Looking at league form Freiburg will be favourites as they are only a point off the final Champions League place |
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| Author: Lorric
Date: 17-04-2013, 01:17 Edited by: Lorric at: 17-04-2013, 01:19 | What a ridiculous run of domestic games Bayern are on right now, they've scored 20 goals in their last 4 domestic games. EDIT: Dortmund have been smashing teams recently too, 17 goals in their last 4 domestic games. |
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| Author: seso
Date: 17-04-2013, 12:30 | I don't remember if I have already written this. Swedish Cup semifinals (on May 1, single match): Djurgårdens IF vs Örgryte IS Östers IF vs IFK Göteborg Örgryte from Superettan (2nd highest division) is the lowest-ranked team. |
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| Author: apurvdanke
Date: 17-04-2013, 12:34 | @Forza-AZ Thanks for explanation. I hope Trabzonspor can make it to the cup final as Fenerbahce are going to be playing minimum in CL Q3 anyway. Sivasspor/Eskisehirspor going to EL will not do any good to Super Lig ranking. |
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| Author: mjohnson1989
Date: 17-04-2013, 16:01 | Albanian Cup Semi-Finals 2nd Leg Laci 2-1 Kukesi (2-1) Bylis Ballsh 1-0 Skenderbeu Korce (2-1) Final Laci v Bylis Ballsh |
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| Author: luckyluke
Date: 17-04-2013, 21:59 Edited by: luckyluke at: 17-04-2013, 22:00 | Croatian cup semi finals 2nd leg: Lokomotiva - Cibalia 3:0 agg 4:1 Hajduk - Slaven Belupo 1:1 agg 3:2 final: Hajduk - Lokomotiva 1st leg 08.05. 2nd leg 22.05. draw will be made who will play 1st game at home |
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| Author: rote.adler
Date: 17-04-2013, 22:53 | Portuguese cup final on May 26: Guimaraes vs Benfica Benfica will be in CL, so Guimaraes will play EL group stage Belenenses 0-2 Guimaraes march.23 Guimaraes 1-0 Belenenses today |
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| Author: mjohnson1989
Date: 17-04-2013, 23:36 | A lot more finals confirmed tonight Germany: Bayern Munich v Stuttgart Italy: Lazio v Roma Cyprus: AEL Limassol v Apollon Limassol Poland: Legia Warsaw v Slask Wroclaw Serbia: Vojvodina v Jagodina Armenia: Shirak v Pyunik |
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| Author: mjohnson1989
Date: 17-04-2013, 23:41 | Guimares are guaranteed to be in the Europa League, but their entry round is determined by the result of the final |
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| Author: spoonman
Date: 17-04-2013, 23:44 | Just for the record: VfB Stuttgart 2-1 SC Freiburg 1-0 Boka 10' 1-1 Rosenthal 14' 2-1 Harnik 28' DFB-Pokal Final: Bayern München v VfB Stuttgart Saturday, 1st June, 20:00 CEST, Olympiastadion Berlin, live on ARD Das Erste. |
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| Author: Auron
Date: 18-04-2013, 00:08 | And Stuttgart has qualified for EL since Munich is already champion. |
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| Author: Forza-AZ
Date: 18-04-2013, 10:11 | Guimaraes starts in the EL-GS when they win the Cup, in EL-Q4 when the lose the Cupfinal and finish 5th in the league, in EL-Q3 when they lose the Cupfinal and finish 6th or lower in the league. |
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| Author: Forza-AZ
Date: 18-04-2013, 10:16 | French Cup quarterfinals Troyes-AS Nancy 3-0 Saint Etienne-Lorient 1-2 Evian TG-Paris Saint Germain 1-1 pen 4-1 RC Lens (2)-Girondins Bordeaux 2-3 Draw semi finals (7-8 May) Troyes-Girondins Bordeaux Evian TG-Lorient |
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| Author: mjohnson1989
Date: 18-04-2013, 14:53 | That result at Evian has blown the French Cup wide open! Looks pretty likely the cup winner spot will be used |
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| Author: StoutLeggings
Date: 19-04-2013, 12:29 | Danish Cup Semifinals have been played, and the semifinalist found. (aggregate in brackets): Horsens - Randers 2-3 (2-4) Brøndby - Esbjerg 1-1, 1-3 AET (2-4) So it will be two teams from Jutland in the finals. Randers and Esbjerg. This is especially good news for Esbjerg, as Randers are heading to Europe through the league as it is atm. |
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| Author: Forza-AZ
Date: 19-04-2013, 12:32 | @ StoutLeggings Randers and Esbjerg. This is especially good news for Esbjerg, as Randers are heading to Europe through the league as it is atm. Esbjerg still need to win the final to qualify for EL, since Randers won't qualify for CL as it looks like now. If Randers win the Cup and finish 3rd or 4th, then the 5th placed team will go into EL, and not Esbjerg. |
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| Author: luckyluke
Date: 19-04-2013, 15:17 | cup finals: Albania: Laci - Bylis Ballsh, still no date Armenia: 29.04. Shirak - Pyunik Belarusia: 26.05. Minsk - Dinamo Minsk Belgium: 09.05. Genk - Cercle Brugge Bosnia & Herzegovina: 24.04./15.05. Široki Brijeg - Željeznièar Croatia: 08./22.05. Hajduk - Lokomotiva Cyprus: 22.05. AEL Limassol - Apollon Limassol Denmark: 09.05. Randers FC - Esbjerg England: 11.05. Man. City - Wigan France (league cup): 20.04. Saint-Etienne - Rennes Germany: 01.06. Bayern - VfB Stuttgart Israel: 05.05. Ironi Kiryat Shmona - Hapoel Ramat Gan Italy: 26.05. Lazio - Roma Liechstenstein: 01.05. FC Balzers − FC Vaduz Montenegro: 21.05. Buduænost - Èelik Netherlands: 09.05. AZ - PSV Northern Ireland: 04.05. Glentoran - Cliftonville Poland: 02./08.05. Œl¹sk Wroc³aw - Legia Warszawa Portugal: 26.05. Vitória de Guimarães – Benfica Scotland: 26.05. Hibernian - Celtic Serbia: 08.05. Vojvodina - Jagodina Slovakia: 01.05. Žilina - Slovan Spain: 17.05. Real M - Atletico Switzerland: 20.05. FC Basel – Grasshoppers Zürich Wales: 05.05. Bangor City - Prestatyn Town |
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| Author: Lorric
Date: 19-04-2013, 15:24 | Mmmm, nice! A finals checklist! |
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| Author: mjohnson1989
Date: 19-04-2013, 16:25 | Thanks for that luckyluke, very useful to just be able to read one post rather than trawl through Wikipedia or Soccerway |
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| Author: luckyluke
Date: 19-04-2013, 20:43 Edited by: luckyluke at: 19-04-2013, 20:45 | I am glad you like it. here are 1/2 finals. for two legs semies I posted first game result. Azerbaijan: 24.04. Neftchi − Qarabağ 2:1 and Baku − Khazar 1:0 Austria: 07./08.05. draw on sunday. teams are: Austria Vienna, SV Ried, Pasching (III), Red Bull Salzburg Bulgaria: 24.04. Levski Sofia - Lokomotiv Sofia 3:1 25.04. Slavia Sofia - Beroe Stara Zagora 0:0 Czech rep.: 24.04. FC Slovan Liberec - FK Baumit Jablonec 01.05. FK Mladá Boleslav - AC Sparta Prague 08.05. 2nd legs Estonia: 30.04. Nõmme Kalju - Tammeka and Narva Trans - Flora France: 07. or 08.05.: Troyes - Bordeaux and Evian TG - Lorient Georgia: 23.04. Metalurgi Rustavi - Dinamo Tbilisi Chikhura Sachkhere - Sioni Bolnisi 08.05. 2nd legs Greece: 27.04. PAOK - Asteras Tripolis 2:1 28.04. Olympiakos - Panthrakikos 6:2 Hungary: 07.05. Vasas (II) - Debrecen 0:3 08.05. Videoton - Gyõr 0:2 Latvia: 04.05. Daugava Rīga - Liepājas Metalurgs Ventspils - Daugava Daugavpils Lithuania: 30.04. Atlantas - Žalgiris 0:0 01.05. Ekranas - Šiauliai 1:2 Macedonia: 02.05. Škendija - Vardar 0:0 and Sileks - Teteks 0:1 Malta: 10./11.05. still no draw. teams are: Qormi, Lija Athletic, Valletta and Hibernians Moldova: 07./08.05. Milsami Orhei - Veris Drãgãneºti Sheriff Tiraspol - FC Tiraspol Romania: 22.05. Otelul - Petrolul Ploiesti 0:3 Cluj - Astra Giurgiu 0:0 Russia: 07.05. Rostov - CSKA and Zenit - Anzhi Slovenia: 01.05. Triglav Kranj - Maribor and Aluminij - Celje 08.05. 2nd legs Sweden: 01.05. Djurgårdens IF - Örgryte IS and Östers IF - IFK Göteborg Turkey: 08.05. Eskisehirspor - Fenerbahçe 1:1 Sivasspor - Trabzonspor 2:1 Ukraine: 08.05. still no draw. teams are: Dnipro, Chornomorets, Shakhtar, Sevastopol (II) |
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| Author: luckyluke
Date: 19-04-2013, 20:47 | 1/4 finals are to be played in Andora, Luxembourg and San Marino. |
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| Author: Lorric
Date: 19-04-2013, 21:31 | Very nice! Everything is now in a central location, well done! |
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| Author: goaktobe
Date: 21-04-2013, 00:45 | 1/4 final coppa del titano(san marino) murata COSMOS 2 3 SAN GIOVANNI pennarossa 1 0 tre penne LIBERTAS 0 1 LA FIORITA tre fiori 2 1 semifinals(25 april) cosmos san giovanni libertas la fiorita final 29 april |
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| Author: Malko
Date: 21-04-2013, 08:49 | luckyluke...querterfinales in Luxe,mbourg are't played yet :-) In France, Saint-Etienne won the "Coupe de la Ligue" yesterday 1-0 vs Stade Rennais, and is the first french team qualified for Europaligue. |
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| Author: luckyluke
Date: 22-04-2013, 11:13 Edited by: luckyluke at: 22-04-2013, 11:14 | Albania: 17.05. Laçi - Bylis Ballsh Austria: 07./08.05. SV Ried - Austria Vienna Red Bull Salzburg - Pasching (III) Ukraine: 08.05. Chornomorets - Dnipro Sevastopol (II) - Shakhtar |
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| Author: AnelZ
Date: 23-04-2013, 03:28 | Just one correction. The first leg of the final in Bosnia and Herzegovina isn't going to be played on 24 April, but rather on 30 April. I think it was planned to be played on 24, but because of Champions League it is been rescheduled and moved to 1 May but Željezničar got the permission to move it once again on 30 April because attendance on 1 May would be probably very low because of the holiday. |
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| Author: mjohnson1989
Date: 24-04-2013, 19:07 | Bulgarian Cup Semi-Final 2nd Leg Lokomotiv Sofia 0-0 Levski Sofia (1-3) Slavia Sofia and Beroe play their 2nd Leg tomorrow, the 1st Leg finished 0-0. The final is on 14 May |
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| Author: luckyluke
Date: 25-04-2013, 08:07 | Azerbaijan cup final: 28.05. Neftchi − Khazar |
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| Author: luckyluke
Date: 25-04-2013, 20:05 | so it will be Beroe - Levski cup final |
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| Author: luckyluke
Date: 26-04-2013, 08:25 | San Marino cup final: 29.04. San Giovanni - La Fiorita |
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| Author: seso
Date: 28-04-2013, 21:09 | Greek Cup final: 11 May: Olympiakos vs Asteras Tripoli. It is the first appearance of Asteras in a cup final. |
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| Author: mjohnson1989
Date: 29-04-2013, 10:30 | Andorran Cup 3rd Elimination Round 1st Leg CE Principat 0-1 UE Santa Coloma FC Encamp 1-0 FC Santa Coloma UE Engordany 0-7 UE Sant Julia FC Ordino 0-2 FC Lusitanos 2nd Legs are played on 7 May |
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| Author: omonia
Date: 29-04-2013, 10:41 | @ bert The Greek cup final is Olympiacos-Asteras not Panthrakikos-Asteras. |
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| Author: luckyluke
Date: 30-04-2013, 08:25 | La Fiorita won San Marinese cup |
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| Author: AnelZ
Date: 01-05-2013, 18:05 Edited by: AnelZ at: 01-05-2013, 18:05 | First leg of Bosnia and Herzegovina Football Cup Final Željezničar 1-1 Široki Brijeg This is the 35th consecutive game in the cup competition that Željezničar hasn't lost in. The result is much better for Široki Brijeg who has great chances to win the cup with even an 0-0 on Pecara 15th May. I really hope that Željezničar will play much better that night and win the third consecutive Cup because yesterday the way we played was abysmal. |
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| Author: SirHenri
Date: 01-05-2013, 21:32 | FC Vaduz wins cup final after penalties and enters EL Q1 Another nation complete :-) |
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| Author: seso
Date: 02-05-2013, 07:11 | Swedish cup SF: Djurgårdens IF 1–0 Örgryte IS Östers IF 1–4 IFK Göteborg Final: 26 May 2013 Djurgårdens IF vs IFK Göteborg |
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| Author: luckyluke
Date: 02-05-2013, 07:54 Edited by: luckyluke at: 02-05-2013, 07:55 | Slovan won the Slovak cup. As they probably will be champions, Žilina will play Q1 as a cup finalist. Macedonian up final: Shkendija - Teteks, still no date Lithuanian cup final: 19.05. Žalgiris - Šiauliai Luxembourg cup have reach semi final phase. Still no draw. Grevenmacher, Differdange 03, Käerjeng 97, Jeunesse Esch |
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| Author: mjohnson1989
Date: 05-05-2013, 21:25 | Andorran Copa Constuticio 3rd Elimination Round 2nd Leg UE Santa Coloma 7-1 Principat (8-1) FC Santa Coloma 3-0 Encamp (3-1) Sant Julia 0-12 Engordany (7-12) Yes you did read that last one correctly |
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| Author: Lorric
Date: 05-05-2013, 21:33 Edited by: Lorric at: 05-05-2013, 21:38 | Huh... how on Earth?! a 7-0 deficit turned into a 12-7 aggregate win?! And an away win at that?! Maybe they decided they could send the kids out for the 2nd leg and the kids got smashed? EDIT: Or maybe the fix was in... |
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| Author: Lorric
Date: 05-05-2013, 22:22 Edited by: Lorric at: 05-05-2013, 22:23 | Have you made an error? The wiki says Sant Julia won this 12-0 on aggregate. 5-0 win. While the UEFA site says the match was won 12-0 by Sant Julia: http://www.uefa.com/memberassociations/association=and/domesticcup/index.html |
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| Author: mjohnson1989
Date: 05-05-2013, 23:34 | I got the results from Soccerway |
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| Author: TimJohnson
Date: 06-05-2013, 23:09 | Welsh Cup Bangor City 1 Prestatyn Town 3 after ET 1-1 FT Congratulations to Prestatyn Town who will play in Europe for the first time |
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| Author: mjohnson1989
Date: 07-05-2013, 09:13 | Anyone know the dates for the cup finals in Lithuania and Macedonia? |
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| Author: TP
Date: 07-05-2013, 09:35 | Lithuanian cup final 19.5. Macedonian cup final 22.5. |
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| Author: luckyluke
Date: 07-05-2013, 09:36 | 19.05. lithuania 22.05. macedonia |
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| Author: mjohnson1989
Date: 07-05-2013, 10:42 | Thanks. The Europa League picture should be a lot clearer in the next couple of days, 13 countries have semi-finals and finals today and/or tomorrow |
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| Author: scapulaire24
Date: 07-05-2013, 11:08 | The semi-final Troyes - Bordeaux is postponed (cause flood). May be next week... |
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| Author: mjohnson1989
Date: 07-05-2013, 11:36 | The Coupe de France Final is scheduled for 31 May so Troyes v Bordeaux will have to be rescheduled for the next two weeks |
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| Author: scapulaire24
Date: 07-05-2013, 11:56 | It will be next tuesday. May 14, 20:55 (on Eurosport) |
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| Author: mjohnson1989
Date: 07-05-2013, 23:26 | Tonight's results: Russian Cup Semi-Final FC Rostov 0-2 CSKA Moscow Austrian Cup Semi-Final Red Bull Salzburg 1-2 Pasching Hungarian Cup Semi-Final 2nd Leg Debrecen 3-1 Vasas (6-1) |
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| Author: bugylibicska
Date: 08-05-2013, 20:36 | Dinamo Tbilisi-Chikhura cup final in Gruzia (Georgia). |
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| Author: minha_galera
Date: 08-05-2013, 22:21 | Legia Warsaw won the Polish Cup after 2-1 aggregate win over Slask Wroclaw (2-0 away, 0-1 at home) |
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| Author: minha_galera
Date: 08-05-2013, 22:34 | Serbian Cup final: FK Jagodina - Vojvodina Novi Sad 1:0 |
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| Author: minha_galera
Date: 08-05-2013, 23:14 | Ukrainian Cup final (22nd May): Shakhtar Donetsk - Chornomorets Odessa Russian Cup final (31st May): CSKA Moscow - Anzhi Makhachkala Slovenian Cup final (29th May): NK Maribor - Publikum Celje Hungarian Cup final: Debrecen - Gyor Israel Cup final Hapoel Kiryat Shmona - Hapoel Ramat-Gan 0:0 (pen: 2-4), Hapoel Ramat-Gan qualifies for ELQ |
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| Author: minha_galera
Date: 08-05-2013, 23:16 Edited by: minha_galera at: 08-05-2013, 23:19 | Czech Cup final (18th May): Baumit Jablonec - Mlada Boleslav Turkish Cup final: Trabzonspor - Fenerbahce Austrian final (30th May): Pasching - Austria Wien |
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| Author: minha_galera
Date: 08-05-2013, 23:21 | and finally: Evian Thonon Gaillard reaches the French Cup final and will play either Troyes or Bordeaux |
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| Author: mjohnson1989
Date: 09-05-2013, 00:07 | Does that mean the Cup place in the Europa League won't be used in Russia? |
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| Author: germanyfrance33
Date: 09-05-2013, 00:10 | Yes,the first six of Russia go to Europe |
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| Author: Forza-AZ
Date: 09-05-2013, 08:41 | @mjohnson1989 Unless Anzhi still drops to 7th place (very unlikely) or to 5th/6th place and win the Cup. Then the Cup-EL-spot will be used in Russia. |
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| Author: spoonman
Date: 09-05-2013, 12:47 | Austrian Cup Final: Austria Wien v FC Pasching. Since Austria will play CLQ, Pasching (a 3rd level team) have theoretically qualified for EL. But they're "cooperating" with Red Bull Salzburg who will also play CLQ. I'm not entirely sure about the extent of that cooperation but it seems that they're practically Salzburg's farm team. Apparently, UEFA are already looking at this. I know there's a rule that two teams of the same owner may not participate in the same competition. Can anyone remember in which case(s) thie rule was applied? While Salzburg and Pasching wouldn't start in the same competition, it's still possible that they might both end up in ELQ4. |
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| Author: Cloakmaster
Date: 09-05-2013, 13:41 Edited by: Cloakmaster at: 09-05-2013, 13:53 | I only remember the 2nd teams in german football, wich seldomly managed to qualify via the german cup. One year is was a 2nd team reaching the final, and being qualyfied for Europe (because the opponent played CL), but that year the first team missed a direct entry to europe via the german 'Bundesliga'. But the next year thy sent theit first team into UEFA Cup, and Germany changed thier cup rules: No 2nd team are allowed in the german cup anymore. SpVgg Unterhaching (near Munich) was a farm team for Bayern Munich. They had a long-term interaction agreement to give young Bayern Players Match experience in a professional team. Just before Unterhaching made their entry to the 1st Bundesliga that contract was dismissed in order not to endanger the 'Bundesliga' License for Unterhaching. After Haching went back down to 2nd Bundesliag that contract was not rennewed. Meanwhile they play in 3rd Bundesliga. I just wonder, what UEFA will say about a possible Entry to Europe for "RasenBallsport Leipzig". ('Lawn ball sports Leipzig' - company Names are forbidden in german Soccer - Bayer Lverkusen is an exeption) They are about to enter 3rd Bundesliag and may easily qualify for the german cup which could lad into Europa League. It is no secret that they are a part of Red Bull. RB Salzburg and RB Leipzig even have one and the same sports director. |
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| Author: luckyluke
Date: 09-05-2013, 15:19 | we have simmilar situation in croatia. lokomotiva zagreb is B team of dinamo zagreb and they will probably enter EL |
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| Author: mjohnson1989
Date: 09-05-2013, 20:06 | Dutch Cup final AZ Alkmaar 2-1 PSV Eindhoven |
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| Author: mspm89
Date: 09-05-2013, 20:08 Edited by: mspm89 at: 09-05-2013, 20:11 | Netherlands' KNVB Cup Final: AZ 2-1 PSV So, a rather mediocre Eredivisie campaign for AZ ends up being a good one thanks to the Cup, especially in great defensive performances at Ajax and vs PSV today. 1 goal conceded in these 2 matches against the most powerful offensives of the country. AZ qualified for EL Playoff round. EDIT: mjohnson beat me by two minutes |
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| Author: mjohnson1989
Date: 09-05-2013, 20:25 | Danish Cup Final Randers 0-1 Esbjerg |
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| Author: luckyluke
Date: 09-05-2013, 20:50 | luxembourg cup final: Differdange 03 - Jeunesse Esch |
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| Author: minha_galera
Date: 09-05-2013, 22:43 | Belgium Cup final: Cercle Brugges - Racing Genk 0:2 |
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| Author: omonia
Date: 10-05-2013, 12:21 | What will happen if Genk also qualifies in a CL spot? Sure, Cercle Brugge will have to start in EL2QR, and the third club in the league will have to start in EL4QR but what will happen with the test match for the Europa league? |
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| Author: Forza-AZ
Date: 10-05-2013, 13:38 | @omonia -If Genk ends 1st or 2nd --> 3rd to EL Q4, Cercle to EL Q2, 4th in testmatch vs. winner AA Gent-OH Leuven, winner to EL Q3 -If Genk ends 3rd or 4th --> Genk to EL Q4, 3rd or 4th to EL Q3, 5th in testmatch vs. winner AA Gent-OH Leuven, winner to EL Q2 -If Genk ends 5th or 6th --> Genk to EL Q4, 3rd to EL Q3, 4th in testmatch vs. winner AA Gent-OH Leuven, winner to EL Q2 |
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| Author: mjohnson1989
Date: 11-05-2013, 09:51 | Cup final day in England and Greece today. Both have one team highly expected to win, but you never know |
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| Author: Lorric
Date: 11-05-2013, 20:09 | FA Cup Final 0 Manchester City - WIGAN ATHLETIC 1 And well deserved. Thank you Wigan. ELGS for Wigan. |
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| Author: mjohnson1989
Date: 11-05-2013, 21:26 | One of the all time great FA Cup final upsets :-) |
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| Author: omonia
Date: 11-05-2013, 22:10 | Greek Cup Final Olympiakos-Asteras Tripolis 3-1 in extra time. |
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| Author: scapulaire24
Date: 14-05-2013, 23:10 | French cup semi-final : Troyes - Bordeaux 1-2 Final on May, 31 Evian - Bordeaux I have a preference for wine vs water |
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| Author: mjohnson1989
Date: 14-05-2013, 23:30 | Saturday: Wigan win the first trophy in their 81 year history and qualify for the Europa League Tuesday: Wigan are relegated from the Premier League after losing 4-1 to Arsenal |
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| Author: bugylibicska
Date: 14-05-2013, 23:51 Edited by: bugylibicska at: 14-05-2013, 23:56 | @scapulaire24 ``French cup semi-final : Troyes - Bordeaux 1-2 Final on May, 31 Evian - Bordeaux I have a preference for wine vs water`` Forgivable partizanship. |
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| Author: AnelZ
Date: 15-05-2013, 03:07 Edited by: AnelZ at: 15-05-2013, 03:07 | Bosnia and Herzegovina Football Cup Final - second leg Široki Brijeg 1-1 (agg. 2-2; pen. 5-4) Željezničar So Željezničar was unable to defend their double this season. The game did offer an interesting match, with a lot of chances and one great goal by Šaban Pehilj in 90th minute of the game when Željezničar leveled the result and brought the penalties. This is the second cup title for Široki Brijeg and they will start from the second qualifying round of Europe League, while Sarajevo as second placed team on the league table will start from the first qualifying round of Europe League; Željezničar as already known starts at the second qualifying round of Champions League. As we lost only on penalties, Željezničar didn't lose 36 matches in row in the cup competition; the last defeat was in September 2008. |
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| Author: Lorric
Date: 15-05-2013, 15:07 | It's quite the record, that. Won 2 cups and lost 3 finals on penalties. |
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| Author: AnelZ
Date: 16-05-2013, 04:52 Edited by: AnelZ at: 16-05-2013, 04:52 | You have some mistakes. We played 4 cup finals since the record started (it started in September 2009), winning two and losing two. In 2010 we lost because of away goal rule (3-3 aggregate) against Borac, in 2011 we won 4-0 on aggregate against Čelik, in 2012 we won 1-0 on aggregate against Široki Brijeg and this year we lost on penalites 5-4 (2-2 aggregate) against Široki Brijeg. |
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| Author: mjohnson1989
Date: 18-05-2013, 23:17 | Maltese FA Trophy Final: Qormi v Hibernians (Wednesday) Tomorrow is the Lithuanian Cup Final between Zalgiris Vilnius and Siauliai |
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| Author: Skonto
Date: 19-05-2013, 19:36 Edited by: Skonto at: 19-05-2013, 19:39 | Ventspils won there 5th Cup yesterday beating Liepājas Metalurgs 2-1 in Extra time. I watched this match on TV. Ventspils deserved there victory but Liepājas Metalurgs did not make it easy. 2003, 2004, 2005, 2011 where the previous years that Ventspils won the Cup. |
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| Author: Forza-AZ
Date: 20-05-2013, 19:03 | Grasshopper won the Swiss Cup by beating Basel on penalties today (1-1 after 90 and 120 minutes) |
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| Author: mjohnson1989
Date: 21-05-2013, 22:42 | Romanian Cup Semi-Final 2nd Leg Petrolul Ploiesti 1-2 Otelul Galati (4-2) The other second leg between CFR Cluj and Astra Giurgiu will be played tomorrow night. The first leg finished 0-0 |
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| Author: SirHenri
Date: 22-05-2013, 09:15 Edited by: SirHenri at: 22-05-2013, 09:15 | Today a lot of action, I count 8 cupfinals, all in Southern/East Europe + semi in Romania. |
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| Author: mjohnson1989
Date: 22-05-2013, 19:52 Edited by: mjohnson1989 at: 22-05-2013, 20:33 | Georgian Cup Final Dinamo Tblisi 3-1 Chickhura Dinamo Tblisi complete a league and cup double Cypriot Cup Final AEL Limassol 0-1 Apollon Limassol |
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| Author: shisraelit
Date: 22-05-2013, 21:41 | what s happened in cup final of macedonia skendija teteks? |
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| Author: mjohnson1989
Date: 22-05-2013, 21:48 | According to soccerway it kicked off at 7.30 UK time, not showing the latest score though |
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| Author: mspm89
Date: 22-05-2013, 22:00 | Apparently, the match was abandoned with a 0-0 score. Don't have more info. |
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| Author: magyarszurker
Date: 22-05-2013, 22:02 | Debrecen 2-1 Gyõr at the Hungarian Cup final, which means Debrecen will join EL at QR2. They'll be seeded. |
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| Author: jojo
Date: 22-05-2013, 22:51 | Macedonian cup final was canceled after ten minutes because some kind of nacionalistic chants by skendija fans. Match will be played maybe tomorrow. |
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| Author: AnelZ
Date: 23-05-2013, 03:27 | To understand what happened on the cup final in Macedonia you need to know this: Both Shkendija and Teteks are clubs from the City of Tetovo which has both a big population of ethnic Albanians (about 55%) and ethnic Macedonians (about 35%). Shkendija fans are Albanians while Teteks are Macedonians. The game was played in the capital city of Skopje on Philip II Arena but Skopje and Tetovo are only 43 km away so many fans of both team attended the game. At first, on the begin of the game the national anthem of Macedonia was played and it was booed and whistled out by Shkendija fans popularly known as Ballistët and that was the first warning and interruption because before the begin of the game it was strictly said by all officials that after three warnings/interruptions the game will be canceled and the captains of the teams also urged and pleased their fans to allow the game to pass without any nationalistic or similar chanting. Afterwards fans of Teteks known as Vojvodi chanted some nationalistic stuff and raised a banner on which they said "Anytime and anywhere we are ready for Macedonia" directly aimed to Shkendija fans because there are heavy tension in Macedonia between Albanians and Macedonians in Macedonia. In the meantime Ballistët raised a banner where they said "When your ancestors were monkeys, we set Teuta as our queen". The officials interrupted the game and that was the second time. I don't know what happened when the game was the third time interrupted which was the final one, but on some pictures I can see some minor to mild rioting on the stands during the game like pyro, setting some scarfs on fire and chasing and hitting with a belt. It is still not sure when the game will be replayed but what is almost guaranteed is that it will be played in front of an empty stadium. |
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| Author: omonia
Date: 23-05-2013, 08:50 | The Cypriot Cup Final ended 2-1 to Apollon Limassol after extra time, not 1-0. |
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| Author: mjohnson1989
Date: 26-05-2013, 17:50 | Scottish Cup final: Hibernian 0-3 Celtic Celtic complete the double while Hibernian lose in the final for the second year running. Hibernian will enter the Europa League in the Second Qualifying Round, while Motherwell will enter in the Third Qualifying Round |
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| Author: psw
Date: 26-05-2013, 19:12 | Belarus Cup winner FK Minsk 1-1 (1:1, 0:0, 0:0, 0:0), penalty series 4-1 |
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| Author: Eric
Date: 26-05-2013, 20:11 Edited by: Eric at: 26-05-2013, 20:13 | Sweden Cup Final Djurgårdens IF - IFK Göteborg 1-2 After penalty shootout IFK Göteborg Champions 2nd Qualifying Round Europa League |
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| Author: shisraelit
Date: 26-05-2013, 20:15 | incredible i have no words benfica has lost the final of taca de portugal (1-2) vitoria guimaraes in gs. may 2013 is one of the worst period in benfica history,but for portugal it s better because both vitoria guimaraes and pacos ferreira are in gs and they can collect some points for the portugal coefficent,like academica and maritimo this year. |
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| Author: mjohnson1989
Date: 26-05-2013, 20:16 | Guimares beat Benfica 2-1 in the Taca de Portugal final, while Lazio beat Roma in the Coppa Italia |
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| Author: Lorric
Date: 26-05-2013, 20:26 Edited by: Lorric at: 26-05-2013, 20:26 | Did they drop that 2nd goal in injury time? Portugal again benefitting huge by the new rule, last season Academica, this season Vitoria. And two teams in the top pot in the CL, could be a big, big season in Europe for Portugal next year with Ferriera guaranteed group stage football of some description as well. So at least one result went Benfica's way. Bayern's victory in the CL to hand Benfica that place in Pot A. Unbelievable that they get no silverware this season. |
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| Author: Lorric
Date: 26-05-2013, 20:34 Edited by: Lorric at: 26-05-2013, 20:43 | I checked. Not injury time, but they dropped both goals and the lead late, 79th and 81st minutes. Smells like another choke job. I think they choked against Chelsea, utterly impotent in front of goal, choked against Porto, had no intention to do anything but sit in all game, and may well have choked not winning that home game against Estoril to put their league title in jeapordy in the first place. Didn't see that, so have no idea how it played out, and Estoril should have some respect having qualified for Europe, but they still finished 32pts behind Benfica. EDIT: Oh, I almost forgot, but I've heard that Benfica utterly dominated their match against the weakened Barcelona team in the CL, but again were utterly impotent in front of the goal. Sounds like one more choke in a big match. I hope Manchester City draw Benfica. |
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| Author: mjohnson1989
Date: 26-05-2013, 20:52 | I hope Manchester City draw AC Milan so they get reunited with Balotelli :P |
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| Author: nuno
Date: 26-05-2013, 20:53 | Good win for vitoria guimarães,they deserved it! For next season Portugal we will have at least 5 teams on regular season! this year we had 6 teams but don?t get a good score,I think next season will be better,P.Ferreira and Vitoria are good teams! |
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| Author: Lorric
Date: 26-05-2013, 20:57 Edited by: Lorric at: 26-05-2013, 20:58 | @ mjohnson1989 That would be interesting. And Milan aren't up to much these days, one of the weaker Pot B sides for me, shouldn't even be here, they dived their way into the CL. I could take that. Benfica/Milan/Manchester City/Copenhagen. That would be nice. Danish team for Manchester City, the Danish destroyers. (KOd three Danish teams in their run in the last ever UEFA Cup.) There's a good chance Manchester City could rise to Pot B though. Bert has them top of Pot C right now. |
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| Author: Lorric
Date: 26-05-2013, 21:07 | @ nuno At least 4 teams. Braga still have to pass an EL qualifier. They likely will though you'd think being seeded. |
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| Author: nuno
Date: 26-05-2013, 22:13 | Lorric Braga,in this moment are building a very competitive team,they have experience in europe a lot ,and that is important! Braga leader showed their frustration about this failed season on europe games,he thinks sack their manager about that! So, I think the new season will be different to better in all competitions! |
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| Author: mjohnson1989
Date: 26-05-2013, 22:23 | Braga certainly tested United when we played them in the Champions League this season |
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| Author: Lorric
Date: 26-05-2013, 22:44 | I already said I think they'll go through, I just meant you can't guarantee it will be 5 sides in the group stage. They could simply be surprised, or draw a difficult unseed, Feyenoord, Rapid Vienna, Dinamo Moscow... |
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| Author: shisraelit
Date: 27-05-2013, 00:31 Edited by: shisraelit at: 27-05-2013, 00:32 | in macedonia teteks tetovo won the cup against skendija in penalty. they ended last in the league so they will be another team playing in 2 division and in europe.the other are wigan, hodd ,hapoel ramat gan, vaduz and pashing. Maybe is it a record so many teams playing both second division and europe? |
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| Author: Lorric
Date: 27-05-2013, 01:16 | Hmmm, thanks for mentioning those. Will be worth keeping an eye on them. Vaduz don't really count though. |
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| Author: mspm89
Date: 27-05-2013, 06:42 | AS Roma 0-1 Lazio. Another utterly failed season by Roma. It stinks how they've come to this since Spalletti's times. |
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| Author: shisraelit
Date: 30-05-2013, 15:57 | today(16.30) the final of austrian cup AUSTRIA VIENNA-PASCHING. Maybe after hodd, hapoel ramat gan,teteks and wigan it s time for another surprise. |
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| Author: TP
Date: 30-05-2013, 18:26 | And FC Pasching is a cupwinner in Austria! |
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| Author: mjohnson1989
Date: 30-05-2013, 18:30 | Really is the year of the underdog in the cups! |
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| Author: shisraelit
Date: 30-05-2013, 18:56 | incredible,deserved victory for pasching,now qualified for play off of europa league in late august |
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| Author: Philipp
Date: 30-05-2013, 20:00 Edited by: Philipp at: 30-05-2013, 20:01 | Austrian media is reporting that UEFA will check if Pasching is allowed to play in europe because Red Bull is by far the biggest sponsor of the club (80% of the budget) and before the final Pasching's coach said, that his future will be decided in Salzburg (at Red Bull). So we will have to wait and see if UEFA thinks that club is heavily influenced by Red Bull. |
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| Author: mjohnson1989
Date: 30-05-2013, 20:09 | Would that affect whether or not Red Bull can play in the Champions League? |
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| Author: bert.kassies
Date: 30-05-2013, 20:29 Edited by: bert.kassies at: 30-05-2013, 20:30 | No, I would only affect Pashing according to article 3 (Integrity of the competition) of the regulations: 3.02 If two or more clubs fail to meet the criteria aimed at ensuring the integrity of the competition, only one of them may be admitted to a UEFA club competition, in accordance with the following criteria (applicable in descending order): a) the club which qualifies on sporting merit for the more prestigious UEFA club competition (i.e., in descending order: UEFA Champions League and UEFA Europa League); b) the club which has the highest priority access by virtue of its performance in its top domestic league championship and as indicated in the 2013/14 access list (Annex Ia); c) the club which has the best club coefficient ranking as established in accordance with paragraph 9.03. Clubs that are not admitted are replaced in accordance with paragraph 2.14. And to be complete here is article 3.01 that defines the criteria: 3.01 To ensure the integrity of the UEFA club competitions, the following criteria apply: a) no club participating in a UEFA club competition may, either directly or indirectly: i) hold or deal in the securities or shares of any other club participating in a UEFA club competition, ii) be a member of any other club participating in a UEFA club competition, iii) be involved in any capacity whatsoever in the management, administration and/or sporting performance of any other club participating in a UEFA club competition, or iv) have any power whatsoever in the management, administration and/or sporting performance of any other club participating in a UEFA club competition; b) no one may simultaneously be involved, either directly or indirectly, in any capacity whatsoever in the management, administration and/or sporting performance of more than one club participating in a UEFA club competition; c) no individual or legal entity may have control or influence over more than one club participating in a UEFA club competition, such control or influence being defined in this context as: i) holding a majority of the shareholders' voting rights; ii) having the right to appoint or remove a majority of the members of the administrative, management or supervisory body of the club; iii) being a shareholder and alone controlling a majority of the shareholders' voting rights pursuant to an agreement entered into with other shareholders of the club; or iv) being able to exercise by any means a decisive influence in the decision-making of the club. |
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| Author: Philipp
Date: 30-05-2013, 20:30 Edited by: Philipp at: 30-05-2013, 20:30 | No. Pasching would be replaced by Wolfsberg which took the 5th place in the league. EDIT: Bert was faster |
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| Author: mjohnson1989
Date: 30-05-2013, 21:39 | Any idea when the decision is likely to be? |
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| Author: mspm89
Date: 30-05-2013, 22:23 | Such interesting story. Isn't this case similar to Excelsior and their association with Feyenoord (a year ago Excelsior was being tipped for Eredivisie's FP spot)? Or the involvement between Pasching and RB Salzburg goes a lot deeper? |
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| Author: Forza-AZ
Date: 30-05-2013, 23:04 | @mspm89 Excelsior and Feyenoord don't have the same owner or main sponsor. They just work together in the youth department. |
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| Author: shisraelit
Date: 31-05-2013, 22:59 | BORDEAUX-evian 3-2 BORDEAUX WIN THE COUPE DE FRANCE AND GO IN GROUP STAGE OF EUROPA LEAGUE. This evening no surprise |
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| Author: mjohnson1989
Date: 01-06-2013, 14:47 | CSKA Moscow have won the Russian Cup after beating Anzhi Makhachkala on penalties |
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| Author: spoonman
Date: 01-06-2013, 16:51 | DFB-Pokal Final, tonight at 20:00 CET in Berlin: Bayern München v VfB Stuttgart Bayern can wrap up the treble which no German club has ever achieved yet. Apparently, the DFB has arranged the final on a date that is blocked by FIFA, so Dante and Luiz Gustavo had to leave Bayern to join the Brazilian national team. The match will be live on ARD (Das Erste), free-to-air on Astra 19.2°E - and on pay-tv across Europe. |
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| Author: mjohnson1989
Date: 01-06-2013, 17:25 | Dunno when else FIFA expect the game could've been played given Bayern's involvement in the Champions League |
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| Author: spoonman
Date: 01-06-2013, 19:38 | Yes, it's all very confusing because Spain is having an entire matchday today. But the Brazilian federation was adamant that Dante & Gustavo had to arrive by 16:00 local time (21:00 CET) today. On the other hand, Neymar will be flying to Barcelona for his medical tomorrow... |
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| Author: Lorric
Date: 01-06-2013, 19:41 | Maybe this means Neymar won't face my England tomorrow... |
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| Author: spoonman
Date: 01-06-2013, 20:12 | I guess he'll be leaving after the match.  |
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| Author: Lorric
Date: 01-06-2013, 20:29 Edited by: Lorric at: 01-06-2013, 20:30 | But that must mean he's already out there, so it's no different to the Bayern based players that are having to leave. |
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| Author: spoonman
Date: 01-06-2013, 20:40 | Yes but Brazil is preparing for the Confed Cup, and it's a little strange that they let one of their players fly to Spain and back... Anyway: 1-0 Müller 36' (pen)  Debatable penalty but the ref didn't award a much clearer one a few minutes before. Very entertaining game, by the way. Stuttgart are strong, and the Bayern players are willing to take a lot of risks (might be a little boisterous after the CL win). |
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| Author: Lorric
Date: 01-06-2013, 20:45 | It's okay I'm sure. The tournament doesn't start until the 15th. |
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| Author: spoonman
Date: 01-06-2013, 21:09 Edited by: spoonman at: 01-06-2013, 21:40 | 2-0 Gomez 48'  3-0 Gomez 60'  3-1 Harnik 71'  3-2 Harnik 80'  |
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| Author: executor
Date: 01-06-2013, 21:41 | Petrolul - CFR Cluj 1-0 FT CFR were denied a goal in he 94h min, though it looked like clear offside. |
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| Author: mjohnson1989
Date: 01-06-2013, 21:42 | Petrolul Ploiesti have won the Romanian Cup, beating CFR Cluj 1-0 |
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| Author: De_Republiek
Date: 01-06-2013, 21:51 | Petrolul's victory in the Romanian cup should see Vitesse seeded in EL Q3, not taking licensing issues into account. |
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| Author: mjohnson1989
Date: 01-06-2013, 21:55 | Bayern Munich have completed the treble |
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| Author: spoonman
Date: 01-06-2013, 21:55 Edited by: spoonman at: 01-06-2013, 21:56 | Game over in Berlin. It was close in the end, Bayern were out on their feet but they've won the treble!  Germany's EL teams: (ELGS) SC Freiburg (ELQ4) Eintracht Frankfurt (ELQ3) VfB Stuttgart |
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| Author: De_Republiek
Date: 01-06-2013, 21:56 | Well deserved, Bayern Munich congrats! |
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| Author: Lorric
Date: 01-06-2013, 22:28 | The removal of CFR Cluj is one less obstacle to Swansea being seeded. |
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| Author: spoonman
Date: 01-06-2013, 22:46 Edited by: spoonman at: 01-06-2013, 22:46 | Treble Winners: League/Cup/Champions' Cup or CL 1967 Celtic 1972 Ajax 1988 PSV 1999 Man Utd 2009 Barca 2010 Inter 2013 Bayern League/Cup/UEFA Cup or EL 1982 IFK 2000 Gala 2003 Porto 2005 CSKA 2011 Porto |
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| Author: Lorric
Date: 01-06-2013, 22:48 | Nice stats. I was just wondering about such things. |
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| Author: edinson
Date: 04-06-2013, 20:01 Edited by: edinson at: 04-06-2013, 20:04 | Let's start UEFA season :D |