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| Author: nemesys
Date: 05-12-2012, 00:00 Edited by: nemesys at: 05-12-2012, 00:01 | Continues from here. After tonight matches: CL Pld Won Drw Lst Pts/Max Pts% Few facts: - PSG made 15 points, no team can do better, and only Barca and Man Utd at 12 can equalize; Borussia with 14 points is surely at least the 4th best. - Real scored 15 goals, ahead of PSG, with 14. Shakhtar scored 12 and needs 3 more goals to equalize, Barca and Man Utd scored 11 so far. - PSG conceded only 3 goals, the less beaten defense of the CLGS for sure. - With a 94th minute penalty goal in the last game, Dinamo Zagreb avoided finishing with 0 points and 0 goal scored, so avoiding having 0-0-6 clubs in CL this season. - With 13 Top 6 clubs sure of CL 1/8 of final (one of them will be Juventus or Chelsea), and a 14th club, Benfica, than still can hope, Top 6 countries toke more than 3/4 of the CL KO rounds qualified clubs. Cheers!  - nemesys |
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| Author: Cirdan
Date: 05-12-2012, 00:27 | "- With 13 Top 6 clubs sure of CL 1/8 of final (one of them will be Juventus or Chelsea), and a 14th club, Benfica, than still can hope, Top 6 countries toke more than 3/4 of the CL KO rounds qualified clubs." not really an exceptional archievement, though... since the 2nd round has become a knock out round again, last seasons 12 of 16 (exactly 3/4) was the lowest number of top 6 clubs in it. If I'm not mistaken, every other season it was 13-15 top 6 clubs. |
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| Author: nemesys
Date: 05-12-2012, 00:40 | @Cirdan Yes, of course. It was just a (useless) statistical note. |
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| Author: nemesys
Date: 05-12-2012, 23:03 Edited by: nemesys at: 05-12-2012, 23:07 | After tonight matches:CL Pld Won Drw Lst Pts/Max Pts% I hope everything is correct. Thanks for reading. I watched Celtic - Spartak tonight, it was pretty good. Not exceptional, but big pathos, nice atmosphere, full stadium. Entertaining for 95' for sure (at least IMHO). Cheers! - nemesys |
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| Author: Lorric
Date: 06-12-2012, 00:00 | This is England's worst ever points haul with 4 CL teams. |
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| Author: JK
Date: 06-12-2012, 01:23 | Points and coefficients so far this week (without bonus points). Spain: 6 points - 0,857 England: 2 points - 0,285 Germany: 5 points - 0,714 Italy: 2 point - 0,333 Portugal: 1 point - 0,166 France: 3 points - 0,500 Current places in the groups. Head to head as a tie-breaker. Spain CL: 1122 EL: 123 England CL: 1234 EL: 222 Germany CL: 111 EL: 1222 Italy CL: 12 EL: 1224 France CL: 144 EL: 113 Portugal CL: 234 EL: 344 Teams already qualified for CL or EL next year. And teams, which are out. Spain: 6/7 CL: Malaga, Real, Valencia, Barcelona EL: Atlético Madrid, Levante Out: Athletic Bilbao England: 4/7 CL: Arsenal, ManU EL: Chelsea, Newcastle Out: Manchester City Germany: 6/7 CL: Schalke, Dortmund, Bayern EL: Leverkusen, Hannover, Gladbach Out: Italy: 5/6 CL: Milan, Juventus EL: Inter, Napoli, Lazio Out: Udinese Portugal: 2/6 CL: Porto EL: Benfica Out: Braga, Académica, Marítimo, Sporting France: 3/6 CL: PSG EL: Lyon, Bordeaux Out: Montpellier, Lille, Marseille |
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| Author: nemesys
Date: 06-12-2012, 14:58 | Based on "amirbachar" calculations. CL KOs Draw probabilities (rounded to the closest integer): Ars ReM Val Mil Por Shk Gal Cel Cheers! - nemesys |
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| Author: JK
Date: 07-12-2012, 00:02 | Points and coefficients so far this week (without bonus points): Spain: 8 points - 1,142 England: 6 points - 0,857 Germany: 10 points - 1,428 Italy: 5 point - 0,833 Portugal: 3 point - 0,500 France: 7 points - 1,166 Places in the groups: Spain CL: 1122 EL: 223 England CL: 1234 EL: 122 Germany CL: 111 EL: 1222 Italy CL: 12 EL: 1224 France CL: 144 EL: 113 Portugal CL: 234 EL: 334 Qualified: Spain: 6/7 CL: Malaga, Real, Valencia, Barcelona EL: Atlético Madrid, Levante Out: Athletic Bilbao England: 6/7 CL: Arsenal, ManU EL: Chelsea, Newcastle, Liverpool, Tottenham Out: Manchester City Germany: 7/7 CL: Schalke, Dortmund, Bayern EL: Leverkusen, Hannover, Gladbach, Stuttgart Out: - Italy: 5/6 CL: Milan, Juventus EL: Inter, Napoli, Lazio Out: Udinese Portugal: 2/6 CL: Porto EL: Benfica Out: Braga, Académica, Marítimo, Sporting France: 3/6 CL: PSG EL: Lyon, Bordeaux Out: Montpellier, Lille, Marseille |
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| Author: Lyonnais
Date: 07-12-2012, 00:15 | games between top-6 countries played this week CL-A - PSG - Porto 2-1 CL-B - Montpellier - Schalke 1-1 CL-D - Dortmund - Man. City 1-0 CL-F - Lille - Valencia 0-1 CL-G - Barcelona - Benfica 0-0 EL-A - Udinese - Liverpool 0-1 EL-D - Bordeaux - Newcastle 2-0 EL-L - Levante - Hannover 2-2 so, at the end of group stage, rankings are the following GER 16 - 8 8 0 - 24 pts - 75% ENG 20 - 6 8 6 - 20 pts - 50% ESP 18 - 6 6 6 - 18 pts - 50% ITA 10 - 2 6 2 - 10 pts - 50% FRA 18 - 5 4 9 - 14 pts - 39% POR 14 - 2 6 6 - 10 pts - 36% Germany much above the other with no defeat in 16 games! Italy, Spain, England very even then France and Portugal below the top 4. recap per country GERMANY GER-ESP 6 - 3 3 0 - 9 pts - 75% GER-FRA 6 - 3 3 0 - 9 pts - 75% GER-ENG 4 - 2 2 0 - 6 pts - 75% GER-ITA 0 - 0 0 0 - 0 pts - N/A GER-POR 0 - 0 0 0 - 0 pts - N/A TOTAL 16 - 8 8 0 - 24 pts - 75% ENGLAND ENG-FRA 4 - 3 0 1 - 6 pts - 75% ENG-POR 4 - 2 2 0 - 6 pts - 75% ENG-ITA 6 - 1 3 2 - 5 pts - 42% ENG-ESP 2 - 0 1 1 - 1 pts - 25% ENG-GER 4 - 0 2 2 - 2 pts - 25% TOTAL 20 - 6 8 6 - 20 pts - 50% SPAIN ESP-ENG 2 - 1 1 0 - 3 pts - 75% ESP-ITA 2 - 1 1 0 - 3 pts - 75% ESP-POR 4 - 2 1 1 - 5 pts - 63% ESP-FRA 4 - 2 0 2 - 4 pts - 50% ESP-GER 6 - 0 3 3 - 3 pts - 25% TOTAL 18 - 6 6 6 - 18 pts - 50% ITALY ITA-ENG 6 - 2 3 1 - 7 pts - 58% ITA-POR 2 - 0 2 0 - 2 pts - 50% ITA-ESP 2 - 0 1 1 - 1 pts - 25% ITA-FRA 0 - 0 0 0 - 0 pts - N/A ITA-GER 0 - 0 0 0 - 0 pts - N/A TOTAL 10 - 2 6 2 - 10 pts - 50% FRANCE FRA-POR 4 - 2 1 1 - 5 pts - 63% FRA-ESP 4 - 2 0 2 - 4 pts - 50% FRA-ENG 4 - 1 0 3 - 2 pts - 25% FRA-GER 6 - 0 3 3 - 3 pts - 25% FRA-ITA 0 - 0 0 0 - 0 pts - N/A TOTAL 18 - 5 4 9 - 14 pts - 39% PORTUGAL POR-ITA 2 - 0 2 0 - 2 pts - 50% POR-ESP 4 - 1 1 2 - 3 pts - 38% POR-FRA 4 - 1 1 2 - 3 pts - 38% POR-ENG 4 - 0 2 2 - 2 pts - 25% POR-GER 0 - 0 0 0 - 0 pts - N/A TOTAL 14 - 2 6 6 - 10 pts - 36% |
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| Author: Lorric
Date: 07-12-2012, 02:05 Edited by: Lorric at: 07-12-2012, 02:06 | Here's a top 6 stat for you. Pot B in the Europa League is loaded with top 6 sides. Well, top 4 actually. Pot A - 7/16 Chelsea Liverpool Hannover 96 Lazio Lyon Bordeaux Benfica ENG 2, SPA 0, GER 1, ITA 1, FRA 2, POR 1 Pot B - 9/16 Tottenham Newcastle Atletico Madrid Levante Monchengladbach Bayer Leverkusen Stuttgart Napoli Inter Milan ENG 2, SPA 2, GER 3, ITA 2, FRA 0, POR 0 I believe this is the first time England have had 4 teams in the Europa League. Pot B looks tougher than Pot A on paper to me. I'd still rather be in Pot A though for the second leg at home. |
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| Author: nemesys
Date: 07-12-2012, 11:00 Edited by: nemesys at: 07-12-2012, 11:01 | @Lyonnais, Lorric Thanks, interesting reading!  Winter European Football, Bonus Not Included Notes: - This doesn't take into considerations QR matches; besides that it (kind of) reflects UEFA coefficients, but expressed in % of the maximum points possible (including bonuses). - Clubs playing in both CL and EL in the same season, will add stats in the CL table when playing in CL, and will add stats in the EL table when playing in EL. Missing Bonus Points since failing a CL next stage qualification will always be counted in CL stats*. *(for that stage only: for example Germany conquered only 12/16 (75%) of CLGS qualification bonuses, but 15/15 (100%), and not 15/20 (75%), of CL KOs qualification bonuses (and about the same is true for Italy), since after missing the CL qualification Bayer Moenchengladbach (as Udinese) is considered as an EL club, adding stats in the EL table and not influencing the CL one. This is the best solution I could find to separate EL and CL stats when a club is involved in both the competitions in the same season: Chelsea for example will from now on add its stats for England in the EL table). - Since the last European match of the season for Sporting will be played today, Portugal stats will change a bit tonight. I hope everything is correct, in case of errors, please let me know! Thanks! Cheers! - nemesys |
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| Author: flob
Date: 08-12-2012, 01:20 | Stats after machtday 5 of the group stage since the last major change of the UEFA points/entrance list. (2009) Without bonus points already earned after the group stage. Sorting (+/- column) is by: current season 2012 vs. avg of the last 4 seasons. MATCHDAY 5 2009 2010 2011 2012 avg +/- |
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| Author: nemesys
Date: 08-12-2012, 02:48 | @flob Uhm... interesting to note that no matter Lille and Montpellier poor results, PSG, Lille and Bordeaux allowed so far France to be better than its average. Just a question: what is the average of clubs qualifyed for KOs (EL+CL) for France in the last seasons? If it is about 3 we should expect a positive season from France (compared to its average); while if it is around 4 (my guess), to have a positive season for France those 3 need to perform well enough to gain at least as many points 4 clubs usually do. After Sporting victory tonight: Winter European Football, Bonus Not Included Please let me know in case of any possible error. And now relax waiting for the spring!  Cheers! - nemesys |
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| Author: SirHenri
Date: 08-12-2012, 08:47 Edited by: SirHenri at: 08-12-2012, 08:49 | I counted for France in the last 5 years : 3/7 in 2007/8 3/6 in 2008/9 4/6 in 2009/10 4/6 in 2010/11 2/6 in 2011/12 that makes 16/31 overall, that's 51,6 % or in absolute numbers : 16 teams in 5 years, tha't 3,2 in average So atm they are in both statistic slightly worse than their average, but the teams still performed better. I have flob's numbers from above included with bonus points for the last 3 years before winterbreak : 11.000 in 2009/10 9,750 in 2010/11 9,666 in 2011/12 That's 10,139 in average So we can say, France is performing very close to its average, but as if they have no great records in spring over the last years except 2009/10, they could easily get at least their 2nd best season, if the 3 remaining teams win some more matches. |
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| Author: JK
Date: 08-12-2012, 16:38 | Points and coefficients this week (without bonus points). Includes the Sporting game. Spain: 8 points - 1,142 England: 6 points - 0,857 Germany: 10 points - 1,428 Italy: 5 points - 0,833 Portugal: 5 points - 0,833 France: 7 points - 1,166 |
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| Author: JK
Date: 08-12-2012, 16:40 Edited by: JK at: 08-12-2012, 16:42 | In the last five years, how many teams did each top 6 country had at the beginning of the KO stages? @ flob Is your list really after matchday 5 or did you mean matchday 6? |
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| Author: SirHenri
Date: 08-12-2012, 17:23 Edited by: SirHenri at: 08-12-2012, 17:43 | I have the last 4 years in my personal archiv : Teams who survived the Group stages : (sorted by ranking of the mentioned year) 2009/10 (Romania was in there, I left them away, NED was on 10) ENG 6/7 ESP 7/7 ITA 5/7 GER 6/6 FRA 4/6 RUS 2/6 UKA 1/5 POR 3/6 NED 3/6 2010/11 ENG 6/7 ESP 5/7 GER 4/6 ITA 4/7 FRA 4/6 POR 4/5 RUS 4/6 UKR 3/6 NED 3/6 2011/12 ENG 5/8 ESP 5/7 GER 4/6 ITA 5/7 FRA 2/6 POR 4/6 RUS 4/6 UKR 1/6 NED 4/5 2012/13 ESP 6/7 ENG 6/7 GER 7/7 ITA 5/6 FRA 3/6 POR 2/6 RUS 3/6 UKR 4/6 NED 1/7 Total : (sorted by percentages) GER 21/25 = 84,0 % ESP 23/28 = 82,1 % ENG 23/29 = 79,3 % ITA 19/27 = 70,4 % POR 13/23 = 56,5 % FRA 13/24 = 54,2 % RUS 13/24 = 54,2 % NED 11/24 = 45,8 % UKA 09/23 = 39,1 % |
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| Author: SirHenri
Date: 08-12-2012, 17:34 Edited by: SirHenri at: 08-12-2012, 17:44 | by the way, does anybody have the country rankings after every Matchday/Day before September 2009 ? There I started to collect every single day, but before I'm lacking of these special datas. |
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| Author: flob
Date: 08-12-2012, 18:43 Edited by: flob at: 08-12-2012, 18:46 | @ SirHenri: I could reconstruct these from my sheets, but it takes some time and I didn't intend to do it. Are you interested in a special season? @ JK: Yes, my last post was matchday 5, I was a little late (partly due to the postponed match in Isreal), shame on me. Here are the... Stats after machtday 6 of the group stage since the last major change of the UEFA points/entrance list. (2009) Without CL bonus points after the group stage. Sorting (+/- column) is by: current season 2012 vs. avg of the last 4 seasons. MATCHDAY 6 2009 2010 2011 2012 avg +/- Stats after matchday 6 with bonus points to follow soon... |
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| Author: SirHenri
Date: 08-12-2012, 18:54 | I would like to have the data for my archiv, so no special season. But if it's too much work, you don't need to do it. I'm sure, someone out there has the data, I just need to find the right source. |
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| Author: flob
Date: 08-12-2012, 20:28 Edited by: flob at: 08-12-2012, 20:36 | Stats including bonus points before spring since the last major change of the UEFA points/entrance list. (2009) Limited to countries who had at least one participant in spring. Number of teams changed to who survived group stage. Sorting (+/- column) is by: current season 2012/13 vs. avg of the last 4 seasons. SPRING 2009/10 2010/11 2011/12 2012/13 avg +/- |
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| Author: JK
Date: 10-12-2012, 07:27 | Thanks SirHenri and flob! |
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| Author: nemesys
Date: 10-12-2012, 11:29 | @SirHenri. flob. Good stuff! Top 9 club qualified table based on SirHenri data in the post above. 5yrs Average 2012-13 Stats Top 9 season coefficients table based on flob data in the post above. SPRING 2009/2010 2010/2011 2011/2012 2012/2013 Co.Avg +/-Cheers! - nemesys |
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| Author: SirHenri
Date: 10-12-2012, 18:12 | Thanks nemesis ! one little question : Is it just the {P} text {/P} (with the other brackets) which makes your stats look better sorted ? I'll use it in future then |
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| Author: nemesys
Date: 10-12-2012, 20:00 Edited by: nemesys at: 10-12-2012, 20:02 | @SirHenri Yes, you find all those tags in the Codes link in the menu on the top of this page (menu: Login Logout Register Topics Search _Codes_ Info Print Forum2). I find that especially the {P}* tag and the {URL=}* tag are very useful to format the text and add links. *(substituting { and } with open and close _square_ brackets). Cheers! - nemesys |
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| Author: nemesys
Date: 12-12-2012, 16:41 | Here a link to the relevant graphical chart from Pembeci pages. Cheers! - nemesys |
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| Author: Lyonnais
Date: 15-02-2013, 00:47 | games between top 6 countries games played this week Valencia - PSG 1-2 Real Madrid - Man. United 1-1 Bayer Leverkusen - Benfica 0-1 Mönchengladbach - Lazio 3-3 Tottenham - Lyon 2-1 Season ranking 18 - 8 9 1 - 25 pts - 69% - GER 22 - 7 9 6 - 23 pts - 52% - ENG 11 - 2 7 2 - 11 pts - 50% - ITA 20 - 6 7 7 - 19 pts - 48% - ESP 20 - 6 4 10 - 16 pts - 40% - FRA 15 - 3 6 6 - 12 pts - 40% - POR |
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| Author: Lorric
Date: 17-02-2013, 17:43 Edited by: Lorric at: 17-02-2013, 17:48 | Looks like Liverpool are putting in some serious "practice" for the Zenit match! http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21438902 Game on |
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| Author: mjohnson1989
Date: 17-02-2013, 18:20 | I wouldn't read too much into that result Lorric. Swansea didn't have a full strength side out as they were resting players ahead of the League Cup final next Sunday |
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| Author: Lorric
Date: 17-02-2013, 20:42 | This is indeed a fair point, and Liverpool are also unable to field certain players in the Europa League. But the shot stats for that match are insane. I think there is something to take from it. I still think Zenit are the strong favourites, but it's given me some hope Liverpool can turn it around. Has to be quite the confidence booster if nothing else. |
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| Author: mjohnson1989
Date: 17-02-2013, 21:54 | Being a Manchester United fan talking neutrally about Liverpool is impossible. That said it will take some effort given that they don't have an away goal |
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| Author: Lorric
Date: 18-02-2013, 19:54 | He he. Then shhhh I've seen the goals from the Swansea match now. They weren't just scoring cheap and easy goals on a team that didn't give a damn, they were good quality goals. |
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| Author: JK
Date: 18-02-2013, 21:19 | Points and coefficients from last week: Spain: 3 points - 0,428 England: 6 points - 0,857 Germany: 3 points - 0,428 Italy: 5 points - 0,833 France: 3 points - 0,500 Portugal: 2 points - 0,333 |
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| Author: vavact2
Date: 19-02-2013, 10:31 | I see Liverpool as playing the best football in the Premier League in the last two months. But they're a somewhat naive team and had a lot of bad luck, so their results are not impressive. |
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| Author: mjohnson1989
Date: 19-02-2013, 11:45 | Is there a possibility of England losing top spot in the rankings to Spain this year? |
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| Author: Lorric
Date: 19-02-2013, 12:14 | Spain are already basically no.1. The gap is already a massive 6pts. It might even be mathematically sealed for Spain at this point. |
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| Author: mjohnson1989
Date: 19-02-2013, 15:40 | Unless something extraordinary happens for the rest of the season then it's unlikely England will keep the Number 1 slot. Ominously Germany seem to be closing in as well |
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| Author: Lorric
Date: 20-02-2013, 22:43 | Well well. Spain could get wiped out in the last 16. All 4 teams are at a disadvantage. And it's two 2-0 losses for Barcelona tonight, as Chelsea knocked Barcelona out of the NextGen Series with a 2-0 win at Barcelona's Mini Estadi! Barca's bogey team has struck once again! Let's recap... 1 Real Madrid - Manchester United 1 1 Valencia - PSG 2 1 Porto - Malaga 0 2 AC Milan - Barcelona 0 |
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| Author: Lyonnais
Date: 21-02-2013, 23:14 | games between top-6 countries this week Porto - Malaga 1-0 Arsenal - Bayern 1-3 Milan - Barcelona 2-0 Benfica - Leverkusen 2-1 Lazio - Mönchengladbach 2-0 Lyon - Tottenham 1-1 Ranking of the season 21 - 9 9 3 - 27 pts - 64% - GER 13 - 4 7 2 - 15 pts - 58% - ITA 24 - 7 10 7 - 24 pts - 50% - ENG 17 - 5 6 6 - 16 pts - 47% - POR 22 - 6 7 9 - 19 pts - 43% - ESP 21 - 6 5 10 - 17 pts - 40% - FRA |
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| Author: mjohnson1989
Date: 21-02-2013, 23:23 | Very mixed week for the English clubs and a largely bad couple of weeks for the Spanish clubs |
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| Author: Zarastro
Date: 21-02-2013, 23:34 | The German teams didn't do too well either. |
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| Author: JK
Date: 21-02-2013, 23:54 | Points and coefficients this week: Spain: 4 points - 0,571 England: 6 points - 0,857 Germany: 6 points - 0,857 Italy: 6 points - 1,000 France: 3 points - 0,500 Portugal: 4 points - 0,666 |
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| Author: Lorric
Date: 22-02-2013, 01:03 Edited by: Lorric at: 22-02-2013, 01:05 | Great night tonight for me watching all that, stirring stuff, good football, last minute beautiful goal for Tottenham, Chelsea win the tie with the last kick of the game against a surprisingly good Sparta, Newcastle dispose of Metalist, should have won the first leg too, but for a bogus offside flag cutting off a perfectly good goal, Metalist were a real disappointment. And while Liverpool fell short, they were magnificent. Zenit actually played well, but Liverpool were just that damn good on the night that they dominated large swathes of the match with relentless pressure and a super high tempo. I actually gained some respect for Zenit, they didn't switch off after they scored their away goal and met Liverpool head on and battled for every inch the whole match even though they were being overmatched, unlike Lyon, who tried to just bleed the game to death in the 2nd half, total lack of balls by them, and they got punished for it in glorious fashion, when they actually competed well with Tottenham in the 1st half. They'd probably have gone through if they'd just have continued playing normally. Shameful display in front of their home fans, looked like they wanted to win with the minimum of effort in the 2nd half. Lazy Lyon. I'd be pissed off big time if I was a Lyon fan with that. I also tuned in for the Steaua match's extra time. That stadium was rocking, tremendous atmosphere, those fans wanted it so so much, and they got it. It will be interesting seeing Chelsea step into that place... |
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| Author: mjohnson1989
Date: 22-02-2013, 08:35 | Watching the Europa League as a neutral there have been some great games, lots of drama last night not least with Atletico Madrid's exit |
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| Author: Lorric
Date: 22-02-2013, 12:35 | I can't wait to see Inter Milan meet Gareth Bale again... I very much hope nothing happens to him between now and then. |
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| Author: Lorric
Date: 27-02-2013, 15:36 | @ vavact2 You said: "I see Liverpool as playing the best football in the Premier League in the last two months. But they're a somewhat naive team and had a lot of bad luck, so their results are not impressive." You'll like this video then: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7q3Fb1n9hHw Liverpool have some huge weaknesses, but playing lovely football is not one of them. They're a strange team with some big strengths and big weaknesses. |
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| Author: Lorric
Date: 05-03-2013, 22:19 Edited by: Lorric at: 05-03-2013, 23:16 | United had Madrid under control the whole game until that bogus red card. I'm furious, surprised how much, I wonder how the Man U fan mjohnson1989 feels. I've been wanting to see this match for years and years and I was so confident United were the superior side, and they were proving it until that referee destroyed the game and handed Madrid victory on a silver platter. Whoever draws Madrid in the quarters is lucky. They've got a weaker opponent than they should have. |
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| Author: Lorric
Date: 05-03-2013, 22:44 | Wow, even Mourinho said the best team lost. At first I thought that was unusual for him, but when you think about it, this would have been one of the biggest wins of a glittering career for him if he'd pulled it off, but it's just an empty win now. They're in the next round, but the ref took that away from him. |
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| Author: Zarastro
Date: 05-03-2013, 23:13 | Suddenly the "battle" between England and Germany has become a little bit more realistic. |
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| Author: Lorric
Date: 05-03-2013, 23:19 Edited by: Lorric at: 05-03-2013, 23:19 | That's 3 coefficient points stolen by the ref and gifted to Spain. Depending on who Madrid draw, it could be many more. I think United were a contender for the title. |
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| Author: mjohnson1989
Date: 06-03-2013, 08:52 | In answer to Lorric's question I'm furious with the referee but immensely proud of the players, because they all gave 100%. When even Manchester City's captain tweets 'never a red card' that tells you something |
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| Author: Lorric
Date: 06-03-2013, 10:36 Edited by: Lorric at: 06-03-2013, 10:45 | I don't think there's ever been any enmity between the players of the two Manchester clubs. The derbies between the two teams don't have that fire you see with some other derbies in my experience, where the players hate each other. I know what you're saying though. He still didn't have to tweet the tweet. |
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| Author: vavact2
Date: 06-03-2013, 10:41 Edited by: vavact2 at: 06-03-2013, 11:08 | I wouldn't trust what Mourinho declares. He never says what he thinks. It's always an attempt to manipulate the players, the fans or the press. About that red card. It was a close call. I say it merits a red. The think that bothers me is that all 50-50 decisions in European cups are in Mourinho's favor, no matter what team he coaches. This guy has unbelievable luck. About the game. Manchester have only themselves to blame. If you have a cowardly game-plan and only start to play in the 70th minute, when you need two goals, then you cannot seriously bring out excuses like that. You cannot claim that you are the better team when you have an underdog attitude on the pitch. It was a balanced tie and the braver team advanced. Oh, and Real had a penalty not given. |
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| Author: Lorric
Date: 06-03-2013, 10:46 Edited by: Lorric at: 06-03-2013, 10:55 | I think part of the reason I was so invested, aside from it's a match I've personally wanted to see for years, and the obvious English interest, is I've seen a lot of people running down the Premier League (not on here). Now they'll be able to say it's shit and can't even put one team in the CL quarter finals. Oh well. Go Beckham! I can still have an interest in the competition as long as he's around! (Providing PSG field him, of course.) Cowardly? They were the only team testing the opposition goalkeeper! De Gea didn't have a save to make worthy of the name before the card, while his opposite number had several. They were significantly the better team until the card. EDIT: I've seen some of this talk about Mourinho, but I don't buy it. He doesn't need to play mind games when he's already won. I've also seen some talk about him potentially angling for the United job in the future. I don't buy that either, because he's a bad fit for United. United, a team that's had the same manager for decades, I can't see taking on a man who gets bored of his clubs after a short period there and goes off to seek new challenges. They'll want a man who can build a long term project with them over a long period. |
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| Author: mjohnson1989
Date: 06-03-2013, 12:17 | Looks like England's hopes in the CL this season are over then as I can't see Arsenal turning it around against Bayern. May not be too long before Germany gains second place in the Country Ranking |
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| Author: Lorric
Date: 06-03-2013, 13:29 | I've written Arsenal off. I will watch and if Arsenal score a goal fairly early things will become interesting, but I just can't see it, Bayern dominated them at home, and I don't think Arsenal have anything more to offer. Maybe they'll get a draw or something with Bayern settling for advancement, that's about it I think realistically. |
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| Author: vavact2
Date: 06-03-2013, 13:44 Edited by: vavact2 at: 06-03-2013, 13:45 | Lorric, it makes no sense in discussing the match and the red card incident here. There's already a discussion on forum 2. |
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| Author: Lorric
Date: 06-03-2013, 14:48 | No need for me to join Forum 2. Soon, you'll all join me here on forum 1, after Malko has driven you all out of Forum 2. Seriously though, you people on forum 2 need to take the power away from that troll by not feeding it. |
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| Author: Malko
Date: 07-03-2013, 11:47 | ah..because i said that PSG is among the best in Europe now, and that Bundesliga is not as strong as it seems to be to certains (3 eliminated teams out of 4 in the Europaleague seem to confirm this) |
| Re: Top 6 stats | |
| Author: Lorric
Date: 07-03-2013, 12:25 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coOxrm4CU0U |
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| Author: Lyonnais
Date: 08-03-2013, 00:22 | results between top 6 countries this week Man. United - Real Madrid 1-2 PSG - Valencia 1-1 Stuttgart - Lazio 0-2 Benfica - Bordeaux 1-0 Tottenham - Inter 3-0 22 - 9 9 4 - 27 pts - 61% - GER 15 - 5 7 3 - 17 pts - 57% - ITA 26 - 8 10 8 - 26 pts - 50% - ENG 18 - 6 6 6 - 18 pts - 50% - POR 24 - 7 8 9 - 22 pts - 46% - ESP 23 - 6 6 11 - 18 pts - 39% - FRA |
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| Author: Todor
Date: 08-03-2013, 10:11 Edited by: Todor at: 08-03-2013, 10:12 | Italy have overtaken England and are now 1.655 pts (10 net pts) behind Germany in the one-year ranking. |
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| Author: JK
Date: 08-03-2013, 11:19 | Points and coefficients this week (including bonus points): Spain: 5 points - 0,714 England: 3 points - 0,428 Germany: 3 points - 0,428 Italy: 5 points - 0,833 France: 2 points - 0,333 Portugal: 2 points - 0,333 |
| Re: Top 6 stats | |
| Author: Lorric
Date: 08-03-2013, 12:17 | I noticed the one year ranking thing with Italy a while ago, I think they were in front before this week's matches. I don't want Italy to beat England. I don't like Serie a, though I don't have as much of a problem with it as I used to. Tottenham can get rid of Inter and help this along. But it's also practical now with the Bundesliga having the potential to put England into third, England needs to keep Italy away. |
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| Author: mjohnson1989
Date: 08-03-2013, 13:01 | It's quite fortunate for England that result over the last few years have been good, otherwise they would be in danger of losing the 4th CL place. I wouldn't be surprised if England's co-efficient has dropped significantly as the year to come off (2007/08) saw three English clubs in the CL semi-finals, whereas this season it looks like there won't be any in the quarter finals |
| Re: Top 6 stats | |
| Author: Lorric
Date: 12-03-2013, 22:47 Edited by: Lorric at: 12-03-2013, 22:48 | Spain's big 2 advance with tainted victories. Drogba takes a step towards retaining the Champions League trophy. |
| Re: Top 6 stats | |
| Author: mjohnson1989
Date: 12-03-2013, 22:57 | How is Barcelona's victory tainted? |
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| Author: Zarastro
Date: 12-03-2013, 23:12 | It is really unfortunate how often German teams suffer a late goal this season. Gladbach, Hannover, now Schalke... . Well that's football I guess. |
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| Author: AlanK
Date: 12-03-2013, 23:25 | @mjohnson1989: How is Barça's win tainted? Boy, you sure got me. This should be a great explanation when we get it. Barça coulda been awarded a penalty kick in the early going--shrugged that off and walloped 'em. After-the-fact whining never ceases to amaze me. (See Alex Ferguson.) |
| Re: Top 6 stats | |
| Author: Lorric
Date: 12-03-2013, 23:27 Edited by: Lorric at: 12-03-2013, 23:28 | Never saw the case for a penalty. Offside 2nd goal. Would never have scored the 4th if it stayed 2-0. Fergie had every reason to whine after what happened to Man U vs Madrid. |
| Re: Top 6 stats | |
| Author: mjohnson1989
Date: 12-03-2013, 23:29 | Didn't actually see the game, hence my question about why the win was tainted |
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| Author: bugylibicska
Date: 13-03-2013, 03:42 | @Lorric ``Offside 2nd goal. Would never have scored the 4th if it stayed 2-0.`` You meant the 3rd goal, Villa`s goal. Wrong. Not offside, not even close. |
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| Author: mjohnson1989
Date: 13-03-2013, 09:22 | So, England's last 'hope' tonight in the Champions League. I suppose England could do with Porto knocking out Malaga so Spain doesn't get too far ahead |
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| Author: Lorric
Date: 13-03-2013, 12:16 Edited by: Lorric at: 13-03-2013, 12:31 | What, was Villa offside as well??? EDIT: Check it out: http://videa.hu/videok/sport/lo-que-la-uefa-esconde.-messi-milan-offside-Bonvxq wsfwtlz26M Offside by a mile. I must see if Villa was offside also. EDIT 2: Villa's well onside. I don't know why you thought he was offside. You can see it here if you pause when the pass is delivered: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8W4p0QXK-kw |
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| Author: vavact2
Date: 13-03-2013, 14:25 Edited by: vavact2 at: 13-03-2013, 14:55 | After Barca was denied such a clear penalty (and a red card for Milan) in the beginning of the match and still won 4-0, complaining about refereeing is just laughable. By the way, after ManU-Real all the referees and ex-referees that were interviewed said - quoting from the rule book - that Nani was correctly booked. In fact, Real deserved a penalty and another Manchester elimination at Raphael's hand-ball. It's sad, but that's reality. I was rooting for United too, I hate Mourinho's Real. Lorric, are you trying you to fill the void now that Malko has moved to forum 2? |
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| Author: Lorric
Date: 13-03-2013, 14:57 | I didn't see this incident, it is a mystery to me. Nani wasn't booked, he was sent off. I think I vaguely remember something with Raphael, but thinking it's definitely not a penalty. However, I would be happy to view footage of either penalty incident if someone can provide it. Do not compare me to that troll. I have nothing against the two Spain clubs here, since neither cheated, but it's galling to see the two teams which are constantly jammed down my throat as the best in the World scraping through thanks to referee help. The result itself with Barcelona is a good one from an English standpoint, with Germany threatening to take second and Italy beating England in this season's coefficient. |
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| Author: AlanK
Date: 13-03-2013, 15:08 | Admittedly I'm not in the least disinterested, but having watched the so-called "offside" on Messi's second goal, well . . . maybe there's a "take" that shows something different from what I've seen (uefa.com, as.com and marca.com) but there is nothing resembling an offside in any action shot (marca's is a reconstruction and not an actual live video). I have seen a "still" that shows Messi perhaps offside, but the perspective, from behind Messi, makes any determination impossible. These "offsides" that take three or four camera angles to capture--is it any wonder that "errors" are made on the field? If it's too hard to call, decision to offense and NO offside. I thought the issue was really Boateng's penalty whine--each team had one penalty whine, so that's a tie (of sorts). |
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| Author: bugylibicska
Date: 13-03-2013, 15:10 | @Lorric ``Offside 2nd goal. Would never have scored the 4th if it stayed 2-0.`` Oops, I`ve misread your line. I thought if the second goal is offside than your sentence should end ``stayed 1:0``, instead of ``stayed 2:0`` and consequently assumed you`re talking about Villa`s (the third) goal. Yes, Messi`s second goal is offside, you`re right. |
| Re: Top 6 stats | |
| Author: Lorric
Date: 13-03-2013, 15:21 Edited by: Lorric at: 13-03-2013, 15:21 | @ AlanK Did you watch the video link I put up? @ bugylibicska I see. |
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| Author: vavact2
Date: 13-03-2013, 18:43 | It's hard not to compare you to malko when you write such statements: "Nani wasn't booked, he was sent off." "it's galling to see the two teams which are constantly jammed down my throat as the best in the World scraping through thanks to referee help." "Fergie had every reason to whine after what happened to Man U vs Madrid." "Spain's big 2 advance with tainted victories." |
| Re: Top 6 stats | |
| Author: Lorric
Date: 13-03-2013, 19:00 | It's all true. Are you sure you're not the troll instead? I don't want to call you a troll, but if you're going to call me one... |
| Re: Top 6 stats | |
| Author: mjohnson1989
Date: 13-03-2013, 19:27 | Malaga v Porto could provide the interesting story of the night with Portugal battling to keep 5th place ahead of France |
| Re: Top 6 stats | |
| Author: Lorric
Date: 13-03-2013, 22:40 Edited by: Lorric at: 13-03-2013, 22:41 | An unexpected 2pts for England and another lesson to the World that English teams never give up. Bayern were pretty disgraceful after the 2nd goal went in. I think they must have thought they could just go strolling into the quarter finals. It doesn't work that way when you play an English team. Nice for Arsenal to maintain their usual standard of at least reaching the last 16 and at least taking something once they get there. Maybe they can kick on from this and get into next year's Champions League... |
| Re: Top 6 stats | |
| Author: Lorric
Date: 13-03-2013, 22:49 Edited by: Lorric at: 13-03-2013, 22:51 | This would be my perfect draw: Juventus vs Malaga vs Galatasaray vs PSG Any Spain vs Any German vs Any Spain vs Any German The top bracket is all about smooth progress for David Beckham. If Galatasaray wins, the Drogba subplot continues. I hate El Clasico matches, so I don't want Madrid and Barca to meet. The German teams get the 2nd leg to maximise the chances of preventing this. It also creates an interesting Spain vs Germany subplot, the best from both leagues against the best. |
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| Author: mjohnson1989
Date: 14-03-2013, 23:40 | Two victories for Italy tonight, even though it proved ultimately fruitless for Inter. Two victories for England, Spain, Germany and France are now out of the Europa League |
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| Author: Todor
Date: 15-03-2013, 09:17 | Plenty of points for England this week and they claimed back the 3rd place in this year ranking from Italy, with both closing in the gap to Germany to less than a point now. |
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| Author: Lyonnais
Date: 16-03-2013, 22:26 | results between top 6 countries this week Barcelona - Milan 4-0 Malaga - Porto 2-0 Bayern - Arsenal 0-2 Lazio - Stuttgart 3-1 Bordeaux - Benfica 2-3 Inter - Tottenham 4-1 Top 6 ranking 18 - 7 7 4 - 21 pts - 58% - ITA 24 - 9 9 6 - 27 pts - 56% - GER 28 - 9 10 9 - 28 pts - 50% - ENG 26 - 9 8 9 - 26 pts - 50% - ESP 20 - 7 6 7 - 20 pts - 50% - POR 24 - 6 6 12 - 18 pts - 38% - FRA |
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| Author: JK
Date: 30-03-2013, 20:50 | Forgot to post it before. Points and coefficients 12. - 14. March (including bonus points): Spain: 6 points - 0,857 England: 9 points - 1,285 Germany: 1 points - 0,142 Italy: 5 points - 0,833 France: 0 points - 0,000 Portugal: 3 points - 0,500 |
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| Author: Lorric
Date: 03-04-2013, 21:33 | Urgh. It's bad enough Manchester United getting put out on a refereeing decision, but it's a double blow that they would have played Galatasaray in the quarters. |
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| Author: Lyonnais
Date: 05-04-2013, 00:08 | Results between top-6 countries this week PSG - Barcelona 2-2 Bayern - Juventus 2-0 Malaga - Dortmund 0-0 Benfica - Newcastle 3-1 Summary of the season GER - 58% - 26 - 10 10 6 - 30 pts ITA - 55% - 19 - 7 7 5 - 21 pts POR - 52% - 21 - 8 6 7 - 22 pts ESP - 50% - 28 - 9 10 9 - 28 pts ENG - 48% - 29 - 9 10 10 - 28 pts FRA - 38% - 25 - 6 7 12 - 19 pts |
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| Author: Lorric
Date: 05-04-2013, 00:10 Edited by: Lorric at: 05-04-2013, 00:10 | Well I ended up watching Tottenham/Basel and Benfica/Newcastle. A mixed bag of results in the end, a win, a draw and a loss. But the thing that really annoys me is what happened to Gareth Bale right at the end of the match. No blame to the Basel player, but he stepped on Bale's foot, and Bale's foot ended up being turned at a repulsive angle and he was stretchered off, and it wouldn't surprise me at all if that's the end of his season. And if it is, there's a very good chance Tottenham will drop out of the top 4 as well as the Europa League. The commentators said Tottenham haven't won a game without Bale scoring since New Years day. This is not the message that needs to be sent, damn it! I know it's a risk, but people will be laughing saying Tottenham were stupid playing their best players in a "mickey mouse" cup when they're chasing Champions League, and this is not what Tottenham deserve for treating this competition seriously from the start, and will other English teams take it seriously after this if the injury is serious and Tottenham lose the CL because of it? |
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| Author: bugylibicska
Date: 05-04-2013, 02:27 | I think Tottenham still can win in Basel even without Bale, but it`s quite difficult now. If they lose Bale for the remainder of the season, I`m very afraid Arsenal will squeeze them out from 4th place again. I`ve made some calculations for myself and both Arsenal and Tottenham ended up on 71 points. Unless a Chelsea collapse happening (I expect Chelsea to collect 74 points) it`ll be between Arsenal & Tottenham. And then the anti EL chorus will start: ``we`ve told you so...`` |
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| Author: mjohnson1989
Date: 05-04-2013, 12:19 | These games are still to come this season: Chelsea v Tottenham (date tbc) Tottenham v Man City (21st April) Arsenal v Man Utd (28th April) Man Utd v Chelsea (4th May) They could all be crucial in determining who finishes in the Champions League places. Intriguingly United could have sewn up the title before they go to Arsenal (earliest it can happen is 17th April) so we may not be fully focused |
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| Author: Lorric
Date: 05-04-2013, 18:17 | Factoid: Lazio's appearance in the ELQF is the furthest an Italian team has progressed in the EL era. Last year, Udinese was the last to fall in Round 4, the year before, only Napoli got to Round 3 and lost there. And the year before that, Juventus lost in Round 4 to the stunning comeback of Fulham. Just thought I'd mention it. Even though the Italians don't take the competition seriously, I was still initially surprised by that. |
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| Author: Lorric
Date: 05-04-2013, 20:15 | Looks like Bale's injury is not too serious, expected to miss 2 games. Similar for Lennon and Gallas who also got injured in the match: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22036075 |
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| Author: mjohnson1989
Date: 05-04-2013, 23:19 | Which would mean Bale may be back just in time to face Manchester City *evil laugh* |
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| Author: JK
Date: 09-04-2013, 17:32 | Points and coefficients last week: Spain: 4 points - 0,571 England: 3 points - 0,428 Germany: 3 points - 0,428 Italy: 0 points - 0,000 France: 1 points - 0,166 Portugal: 2 points - 0,333 |
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| Author: mjohnson1989
Date: 09-04-2013, 23:57 | What a finish in Dortmund tonight! With Bayern likely to go through it looks like their could be two German clubs and two Spanish clubs in the semi-finals |
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| Author: Lorric
Date: 10-04-2013, 00:03 | Malko's day will have been completely ruined if he was watching. |
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| Author: Todor
Date: 10-04-2013, 22:52 Edited by: Todor at: 10-04-2013, 22:57 | Bayern's win guarantees that Germany outscores Italy in the one-year ranking. PSG drawing against Barca keeps France's 5th place in the ranking for at least one more matchday. |
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| Author: Lorric
Date: 10-04-2013, 23:12 | So, it's down to the French-laden Newcastle now to fight for France! Isn't that something?  |
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| Author: mjohnson1989
Date: 10-04-2013, 23:46 | Does have a certain irony to it :P unfortunately for Newcastle (or Le Toon as they've been dubbed in England) they have a mountain to climb tomorrow night. The only ray of hope is that they have an away goal |
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| Author: JK
Date: 10-04-2013, 23:51 | It looks like Spain can't reach their coefficient from last year anymore. |
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| Author: SirHenri
Date: 11-04-2013, 00:46 | If the semi-finals will be Real-BArca and Bayern-BVB, then it is assured, that Spain will win the 1-year-ranking. Otherwise germany has a chance to overtake them, but they would need 8 out if 10 points and an all-german-final. On the other hand england has still all chances to get 2nd place and overtake the germans, but not this matchday, even if they get all possible 9 points. Benfica needs 4 re points to let Portugal overtake France, this seems possible, but still some work to do, maybe they even need the final, if they are defeated (narrow) on thursday. |
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| Author: Lorric
Date: 11-04-2013, 20:47 | I have to say I am so impressed with Chelsea right now, fighting on three fronts and winning everything, maintained 3rd in the EPL and advancing into two semi finals. Rubin gave them a tough game, but Chelsea did enough to get the job done. Pleased that they attacked and didn't try to sit on their lead, I think they'd have gone out if they did that. I'm not going to complain about dropped coefficient points, it's refreshing just to have an English team in the semis, and they'll probably be the only one, so I hope I'm wrong about that, we'll find out soon! |
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| Author: JK
Date: 11-04-2013, 23:54 | Points and coefficients this week (including bonus points): Spain: 3 points - 0,428 England: 3 points - 0,428 Germany: 6 points - 0,857 Italy: 1 point - 0,166 France: 1 point - 0,166 Portugal: 2 points - 0,333 |
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| Author: Lyonnais
Date: 12-04-2013, 00:28 | results between top 6 countries this week Dortmund - Malaga 3-2 Barcelona - PSG 1-1 Juventus - Bayern 0-2 Newcastle - Benfica 1-1 Season totals GER - 61% - 28 - 12 10 6 - 34 pts ITA - 53% - 20 - 7 7 6 - 21 pts POR - 52% - 22 - 8 7 7 - 23 pts ESP - 48% - 30 - 9 11 10 - 29 pts ENG - 48% - 30 - 9 11 10 - 29 pts FRA - 38% - 26 - 6 8 12 - 20 pts |
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| Author: Lorric
Date: 12-04-2013, 00:48 Edited by: Lorric at: 12-04-2013, 00:53 | So I was right. Two of the three have fallen. All three grabbed a point tonight. And this is now England's third best season of the 5 English seasons. EDIT: Again, Chelsea are the last surviving English club. |
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| Author: spoonman
Date: 12-04-2013, 00:56 Edited by: spoonman at: 12-04-2013, 00:57 | ...and with Neufchâteau's exit, the last French team is out. |
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| Author: Lorric
Date: 12-04-2013, 01:02 Edited by: Lorric at: 12-04-2013, 01:08 | Chelsea need just to grab a single point now to surpass Manchester United's coefficient and take over as England's best European club, they are both currently locked on 130.392pts. Basel and Dortmund are in an intriguing coefficient duel lower down the rankings, while Benfica can tighten their grip on CL Pot A, and only need a point to join the 100 club: Benfica - 99.733 Basel - 59.785 Dortmund - 58.637 Dortmund are the only remaining undefeated European club (W6 D4) EDIT: Benfica are 10th and could go as high as 7th, taking over as Portugal's best European club. However, they could also potentially win the Europa League and Porto stay as Portugal's best. Benfica need 6/7 available points to surpass Porto and take 8th, all 7 and they will pass Inter. |
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| Author: Todor
Date: 12-04-2013, 10:51 Edited by: Todor at: 12-04-2013, 10:53 | After last night, England can't catch Germany in this season's ranking. |