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Author: Nick
Date: 21-05-2012, 11:50
Edited by: Nick at: 21-05-2012, 11:53 | We now almost know the participants in the CL and EL for the upcoming season. But what about licenses? So far we know that the following teams will not take part because of licensing issues: 1. Glasgow Rangers (SCO) 2. Derry City (IRL) 3. ETO Gyuo (HUN)
Are there any problematic cases? What happened in Switzerland with the license of Young Boys and Servette? As far as I remember they were denied a license earlier this year.
In Bulgaria we had today an interview with the BFU licensing manager in one of the sports newspapers and he confirmed that all potential CL and EL participants will get a license. |
Author: Cloakmaster
Date: 21-05-2012, 15:08
Edited by: Cloakmaster at: 21-05-2012, 15:08 | maybe havb a look at portugal. Obviosly (or should i say strangely?) 8 out of 16 Teams in Liga Zon Sarges are not up to play in european soccer. |
Author: Michael_D
Date: 21-05-2012, 15:49
| It seems as if the Greek teams have some problems to get an UEFA license. I think Panathinaikos and AEK Athen could be in trouble. |
Author: omonia
Date: 21-05-2012, 16:15
| AEK were denied a license by the Greek Football Federation earlier today but I think they have the right for an appeal |
Author: m-p3
Date: 23-05-2012, 22:11
| So what's with Young Boys? |
Author: Lusankya
Date: 24-05-2012, 10:11
| omonia, do you have any sources for this? |
Author: omonia
Date: 24-05-2012, 10:18
| I do but it's in Greek. Panathinaikos have the same problem.
http://www.tovima.gr/sports/article/?aid=458970 |
Author: Lusankya
Date: 24-05-2012, 10:20
| Thanks. I don't mind greek sources, I guess they should be the most reliable ones in such a case. |
Author: omonia
Date: 24-05-2012, 15:07
Edited by: omonia at: 24-05-2012, 15:35 | All swiss teams got license. http://www.football.ch/sfv/de/news.aspx?cid=82426 |
Author: Squizzy
Date: 24-05-2012, 15:37
| All clubs got the license in the second attempt.
This year the SFL was very restrictive for the licenses, since Xamax had a dubious investor/president and the club has gone bankrupt.
In Switzerland for all losses has to be proved that there are money around. YB and Fc Zuerich needed to hand in some supporting documents. Servette has to show that they can handle they budget, because they were nearly bankrupt 3 month ago. |
Author: Cloakmaster
Date: 24-05-2012, 15:38
| It say that Servette, Zurich and Young Boys all got thier license on 2nd try. |
Author: m-p3
Date: 24-05-2012, 15:54
Edited by: m-p3 at: 24-05-2012, 15:55 | @omonia Thank you. Waiting for a decision on the Greeks. |
Author: biagio
Date: 26-05-2012, 07:54
| all 6 clubs in italy (juve,milan,udinese,napoli,lazio,inter) got the license. couple of things : 1) lazio indicated palermo's stadium for their home matches. they have been having problems with CONI(italian olympic committee,rome's Olympic Stadium owner) regarding rent/maintenance,etc., for many years now. last year they did the same, indicating florence's stadium, but reaching an agreement right before the first european home game. this year it seems there wont be an agreement, we'll see. 2) there still is the betting scandal court proceedings to happen(which you can follow here in forum 2). since,it seems, that udinese,napoli and lazio may be involved, it is useful to know the other 6 teams that obtained a license. in order of league position : roma,catania(udine's stadium),atalanta(modena's stadium),fiorentina,palermo and sampdoria(played in serie b).
ps. catania has a tiny and remote possibility to play in europe on the first year they receive approval for a license(although not in their stadium). |
Author: bert.kassies
Date: 30-05-2012, 11:57
| It seems that Besiktas will not get a license. See spor.milliyet.com.tr.
Besiktas will appeal to CAS. But it seems we have now Bursaspor in EL Q3 and Eskisehirspor in EL Q2. |
Author: psychoTurk
Date: 30-05-2012, 12:13
| Yes,Beşiktaş banned for 1 year. i actually wonder what Uefa decide about match-fixing(for Fenerbahçe) |
Author: psychoTurk
Date: 30-05-2012, 13:28
| Moreover,Bursaspor is banned for 1 year. wtf is going on? |
Author: Lorric
Date: 30-05-2012, 14:06
| So if this stands, that would be Eskisehirspor in Q3 (unseeded) and Istanbul B.B in Q2 (seeded). Both will carry Turkey's base coefficient of 7.115. |
Author: Nick
Date: 30-05-2012, 14:17
Edited by: Nick at: 30-05-2012, 14:22 | Big winner from the situation should be Anzhi and Vitesse. They are now seeded in QR3 regardless of the results in QR1. Next in the waiting list is Omonia.
Victoria Pilzen now seeded in the EL Play-off. |
Author: omonia
Date: 30-05-2012, 14:48
| What other teams are in danger of not getting a license? Besides AEK and Panathinaikos, I mean. I don't think AEK will get one, but most probably Panathinaikos will make it. |
Author: Nick
Date: 30-05-2012, 15:29
Edited by: Nick at: 30-05-2012, 15:34 | No idea. Licensing bodies across Europe should take their decitions these days. AEK however does not affect Omonia as they start from the play-off. If they are out the seeding benefit goes to Dnipro in the play-off. |
Author: Lusankya
Date: 30-05-2012, 15:40
| All German 1. and 2. Bundesliga clubs got their licence today.
http://www.transfermarkt.de/de/dfl-erteilt-allen-erst-und-zweitligisten-die-liz enz-/news/anzeigen_92029.html (source in German) |
Author: Nick
Date: 30-05-2012, 15:50
Edited by: Nick at: 30-05-2012, 15:50 | Also all bulgarian clubs taking part in european competitions recieved a license. The funny part is that 6 A grupa clubs that are not qualified for Europe have NOT recieved a license. |
Author: Lorric
Date: 30-05-2012, 16:15
| Well. Chalk up yet another one for the Netherlands. Plzen and especially Anzhi going up will please the seeded clubs I'm sure. Tricky draws.
But my Inter/Anzhi Q3 fantasy is gone. Noooooo |
Author: Nick
Date: 30-05-2012, 16:25
Edited by: Nick at: 30-05-2012, 16:27 | Anzhi would be a nightmare for any seeded team in QR3, that's true As a fan of a team that had to live through this license nightmare though I really feel sorry for all the fans of the affected teams. |
Author: biagio
Date: 30-05-2012, 16:34
| well Lorric it can happen in elq4,groups,etc. i'm not giving up on that dream matchup. anyway a small update from my previous post. since monday lazio is very involved in the betting scandal. and today's news is that napoli is involved too. while it seems that udinese is not involved after all. we'll see what happens.
ps. i remind everybody once more that some team's players are involved, not the teams themself. but nonetheless the clubs will be punished under the "objective responsability" rule. |
Author: tallaght
Date: 31-05-2012, 02:12
| Any word on Switzerland taking part for definite in europe this year? |
Author: seso
Date: 31-05-2012, 06:04
| For Greece it seems more and more probable that AEK will not get a licence. In the greek meadia it is said that if that happens, Atromitos will take the place of AEK, PAOK the one of Atromitos. And then Asteras Tripoli (6th in the table) will take the place of PAOK. Does anyone know if this is true/according to the rules? |
Author: Nick
Date: 31-05-2012, 06:09
Edited by: Nick at: 31-05-2012, 06:34 | All swiss clubs that were denied a license on first instance got a license in the appeal, so Young Boys and Servette will take part in the 2012/2013 EL. From what I have read across some articles Young Boys were never in a real danger of missing Europe. Servette was the more troublesome case. They had 1 month in order to secure a financial rescue package. It seems they did the job
But what happened in Serbia? AFAIK Red Star was in serious financial trouble?
Edit: According to this article PAOK is also not yet sure. Their fate will be known by the end of june if they manage to fulfill all UEFA prescriptions by then: http://www.uefa.com/uefa/footballfirst/matchorganisation/disciplinary/news/news id=1740299.html |
Author: bert.kassies
Date: 31-05-2012, 08:19
| @seso
Yes, that is the correct procedure. Except for the cup winner all vacancies are taken by next teams in the league.
What I read in the PAOK article is that the exclusion penalty has a probation period of 3 years. |
Author: Nick
Date: 31-05-2012, 09:18
Edited by: Nick at: 31-05-2012, 09:20 | Bert: PAOK are on probation, but they must prove by the end of June that they have paid everything UEFA told them to pay. We don't know if they did this. Maybe contributors from Greece or Cyprus can help with more info. PAOK is a popular club and I guess the local media is covering the case. |
Author: TimJohnson
Date: 31-05-2012, 11:03
| Welsh club Cefn Druids have been given special permission by UEFA as a non top division club to play in the Europa League 2012-13. They are the oldest club in Wales and this is their first European adventure after losing to Champions TNS in the Cup Final. |
Author: seidodge
Date: 31-05-2012, 11:39
| Good news for Cefn Druids. Would love to draw them.
Do you know where they'll play the game Tim? |
Author: TimJohnson
Date: 31-05-2012, 12:01
| I would assume at Wrexham. Which team do you support |
Author: seidodge
Date: 31-05-2012, 13:35
| St Patrick's Athletic
If we're not in the same seeded group as Bangor, we will have a 40% chance of playing a team from Wales or Northern Ireland.
Financially that would suit all concerned. |
Author: omonia
Date: 31-05-2012, 13:41
| Still waiting for an official anouncement from the Greek Football Association, but it seems very unlikely for AEK to get a license. Panathinaikos will eventualy get it. PAOK already got it. So Asteras Tripolis goes to Europe |
Author: executor
Date: 31-05-2012, 14:15
| If anyone's interested, Romanian teams had no problems getting the licences this year.
I see that, with the removing of Beșiktaș and Bursaspor, Vaslui and Dinamo are now 2nd and 3rd unseeded in ELQR4!! And if AEK Athens is excluded too, then these 2 will be the first under the seeding line. It would be too harsh not to see them in the seeded pot in the end, although I don't think Dinamo would profit form that. |
Author: seso
Date: 31-05-2012, 14:31
Edited by: seso at: 31-05-2012, 15:04 | AEK did not get a licence. Panathinaikos got it.
edit: http://www.naftemporiki.gr/sports/story?id=2187484 http://sports.in.gr/football/superleague/article/?aid=1231198429 http://www.sport-fm.gr/article/556265 |
Author: m-p3
Date: 31-05-2012, 14:48
| Link please |
Author: ubik
Date: 31-05-2012, 15:10
| From Greek Football Association http://www.epo.gr/News.aspx?a_id=42696&NewsType=21AEK (Decision No. 4/30-05-2012) Automated translation from greek The Licensing Appeals Committee of the EPO, formally accepts and rejects essence of the appeal against AEK dated 5/22-5-2012 Decision Body First Licensing of EPO. It was considered, decided and published in a special meeting behind closed doors in the offices of TAP of EPO in Athens on 30/05/2012 |
Author: Metallica
Date: 31-05-2012, 15:37
| chances Dnipro on seeded in Q4EL increase with each passing day |
Author: Nick
Date: 31-05-2012, 16:16
| If the news about AEK are correct then Dnipro is already seeded in QR4. |
Author: m-p3
Date: 31-05-2012, 16:23
Edited by: m-p3 at: 31-05-2012, 16:28 | Yes, Dnipro is seeded in QR4, and Anorthosis in Pot 3. |
Author: Cloakmaster
Date: 31-05-2012, 16:31
Edited by: Cloakmaster at: 31-05-2012, 17:35 | There are still 42 Teams with a higher coefficient than Dnipro which could play in EL-q4. Since olny 31 clubs are seeded, I think it is a little bit too early to bet on a seeded Dnipro in q-4.
Even Trabzonspor could be unseeded in q4. They are 32nd in my List of possible EL-q4 participants. |
Author: m-p3
Date: 31-05-2012, 16:36
| For now... |
Author: Forza-AZ
Date: 31-05-2012, 16:38
| Anorthosis was seeded in EL-Q3 anyway. Maybe you mean Omonia, but since AEK was supposed to start in EL-Q4 the seeding in EL-Q3 doesn't change when they are out. |
Author: m-p3
Date: 31-05-2012, 16:41
| I was talking about the GS EL |
Author: TimJohnson
Date: 31-05-2012, 16:51
| Seidodge if you look at the forum for Seeding EL 2012-13 dated 28/5/12 you can see I replied to Dark in respect of how I expect the Northern Group to be allocated. I would expect Bangor City to be separate from the Irish sides. Enjoyed my visit to St Pats to see them against Elfsborg. If you or anyone wants to contact me my email is tim.johnson1967@ntlworld.com |
Author: Nick
Date: 31-05-2012, 18:43
Edited by: Nick at: 31-05-2012, 18:44 | Cloackmaster: In theory Dnipro can be unseeded of course. That would mean that more seeded teams will fail in CLQR3 than in EL QR1, 2 and 3. In theory this is possible. In practice this has never happened. At least as long as I follow the seeding stuff (10 years). In practice at least 1-2 clubs below Dnipro will be seeded in QR4. I estimate that even my club (CSKA Sofia) has a 5% chance to be seeded |
Author: executor
Date: 31-05-2012, 19:59
| Nick: In practice at least 1-2 clubs below Dnipro will be seeded in QR4.
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Author: KRBY
Date: 31-05-2012, 22:49
| As Omonia fan, who is interested of those issues since we are the first unseeded team, I want to ask you if there is another Q3 seeded team that can be banned. |
Author: Nick
Date: 01-06-2012, 06:20
Edited by: Nick at: 01-06-2012, 06:37 | executor: I pray for Vaslui and Dimano And of we remain unseeded I also pray that we draw one of them...preferably Dinamo ))
Omonia: The chance for Omonia is that a seeded in QR3 team fails in QR1. There are only 4 teams in question: Twente, Rosenborg, Lech and Elfsborg. Not very likely if you look at the unseeded teams there. I don't think we will see more license bombs but who knows. UEFA is always good for a surprise There are 2 cases that are still open IMO: 1. Red Star Belgrade were in deep financial troubles. We still have no feedback from Serbia if they got a license. 2. PAOK must prove by 30.06. that they have paid all outstanding debts. They got a license from the greek FA, but UEFA can still ban them (they are on probation!) if they fail to make all the prescribed payments. |
Author: omonia
Date: 01-06-2012, 08:16
| A link for Red Star. I think it says that they have received a license.
http://www.novosti.rs/vesti/sport.294.html:381379-Zvezda-dobila-UEFA-licencu-du g-33-miliona |
Author: Nick
Date: 01-06-2012, 08:49
| As far as I understand it (serbian is pretty close to bulgarian) they have made a last min. payment of almost 2 mil.euro and have got the license. |
Author: Cloakmaster
Date: 01-06-2012, 09:38
| There are 18 Teams wiht a better coefficient than Omonia Nicosia, which have to qualify for q3 first. Four of them (Twente, Lech Posan, Rosenborg, and Elfsborg) have to survive two qualification rounds before they possibly meet Omonia in q3. So there are 22 chances for Omonia to become seeded in q-3. |
Author: executor
Date: 01-06-2012, 09:40
| @Cloakmaster
Since the draw for ELQR3 will be done between the 2 legs of ELQR2, any upset in QR2 won't affect the seedings in QR3. So, only those 4 that start in QR1 will have an impact. |
Author: Cloakmaster
Date: 01-06-2012, 10:07
| omg, how colud i forget about that? You are right, of course. Even if, say APOEL loose their qualyfier it won't help Omonia. |
Author: seidodge
Date: 01-06-2012, 13:04
| Red Star article above states they have paid €1.69 million owed to former players and coaches in order to receive the UEFA licence.
Currently owe €33m, and now operating at a budget of €12m a year (compared to double that in recent reasons) |
Author: CySuP
Date: 01-06-2012, 13:20
| The bans that can help Omonia are related with these countries: CZE, ROU, POL, GRE, BUL, SRB, SWE,SUI (and maybe BEL). My explanation for this is provided below.
Suppose that a club of Eng, Rus, Fra, Por, Ita, Ger, Esp, Ned is banned. Then another club stronger than Omonia will gain the desired European ticket. So these cases do not affect Omonia. Furthermore, bans from Norway, Austria and Ukraine could not help because Brann, Austria wien and Tavriya have higher Coeff than Omonia. Actually, these cases can even lower the position of Omonia e.g. if a Norwegian club other than Rosenborg is banned... Regarding Belgium, i do not know which club takes the advantage. Is it Cercle Brugge or Standard de Liège? Regarding Cyprus, if a Cypriot glub is banned, Aek-Cy will take its place. Recall that Aek has the same coefficient with Omonia. So i dont think that this can help. |
Author: Nick
Date: 01-06-2012, 19:23
| I guess the lincese bans are already known. Maybe PAOK is the last unknown as they have to report to UEFA by 30.06. |
Author: Forza-AZ
Date: 01-06-2012, 20:08
| 30 June would be to late to replace PAOK since the first draw involving a Greek team is on 25 June. So UEFA will probably decided before that draw. |
Author: Cloakmaster
Date: 01-06-2012, 20:21
Edited by: Cloakmaster at: 01-06-2012, 20:22 | But PAOK is in q3 the draw will be at july 20th. So june 30th should be well eough. Unless you want Tripoli be moved to q3 and another greek team inherit the spot in q-2. |
Author: Nick
Date: 02-06-2012, 08:43
Edited by: Nick at: 02-06-2012, 08:46 | Next in line would be Levadiakos FC. But Forza-AZ is right. If PAOK is banned then Asteras Tipolis would move to QR3 and Levadiakos would take the place of Asteras in QR2. So UEFA can't wait intil 30.06. |
Author: Forza-AZ
Date: 02-06-2012, 10:52
| Allthough UEFA could make the draw with the provision that the Greek team in EL-Q2 can still change. The draw is 25 June, but the first match is only at 19 July. So UEFA can just let the possible opponents of the Greek team know that Asteras Tripolis can still be changed into Leviadiakos. Both have the same coefficient also, so for the draw that makes no change. |
Author: Cloakmaster
Date: 02-06-2012, 23:13
| Last year UEFA changed the acess list after one leg being played, abandoning the rematch. So I think it is well possible for uefa to wait until 30.6 and IF PAOK will be eliminated then, there will be just an open spot without any greek team filling the gap. in case tripoli loose thier qualifier they may get PAOK's spot, but nothing more. UEFA has no obligation to let tripli move up and let another grrek team strt in q-2. If uefa say, the dateline is 30.6. i presume they know about their very own match calander and are not interested in messing around q-2 depending on the PAOK question. |
Author: ZvezdaBari
Date: 02-06-2012, 23:58
| greetings from serbia dear friends,
yes, Crvena Zvezda (or Red Star on English) pay 1,7 mil euros in may, amazing, that money could be used for new players, but new menagment which was established in 2009, still paying debts from period between 2005 and 2009, and with this 1,7 mil euros they comlete whole debt from past, ( for former players and coaches), so, it should be better situation for them in future, also, their budget is 10-12 mil euros, but in 2005,6,7 there was a lot of spending, on players like ailton, barkos (now in palmeiras), salas, molina, castiljo, lucas, sisic ( red star have to paid sisic around 300,400k euros), and they got the license, because red star is institution in serbia, biggest club with couple million fans only in serbia, and there was no way that they dont get the license, but it was big isue for menagment, because in one moment realy looks like a big mountain to climb, 1,7 mil is a lot of money, and because of this, they are playing with a lot of young but talented players , mostly u21 of serbia, with couple of foreigners so, group stage of el, would be a great push in the back for us, our stadium deserve 60k fans in europe, because since 2007 when they played in groups, and it is amazing, we have 41k attendence this season against average serbian team (2 times, spartak and smederevo), our spirit lives forever, |
Author: tallaght
Date: 03-06-2012, 05:40
| ZvezdaBari whatever happens to your team always remember your neighbours got destroyed by Shamrock Rovers |
Author: Luka
Date: 05-06-2012, 11:06
Edited by: Luka at: 05-06-2012, 11:10 | well as for today, if all but one team licenses were already granted (and the schedule for Greek team is June 30th - after the draw anyway) why the draw is put on hold for 3 weeks time and then teams have just roughly one week to sort out the travels and accommodation. Wouldn’t it make more sense to have the draw now (without unclear regional groupings)? Or just to make it more clear: what prevents from having QR1 draw separately? Back then when Intertoto Cup was still on, the draw of teams in UEFA Cup was at least two weeks before the first game. |
Author: Nick
Date: 06-06-2012, 08:45
Edited by: Nick at: 06-06-2012, 08:46 | Very good question Actually my wild guess is that nobody really demanded that. The QR1 draw is not a big event so it's not on the top priority list of UEFA. |
Author: CySuP
Date: 07-06-2012, 11:57
Edited by: CySuP at: 07-06-2012, 12:02 | Latest News from Greece:
http://www.sport.gr/Article/%CE%95%CE%B9%CE%B4%CE%AE%CF%83%CE%B5%CE%B9%CF%82/%C E%A0%CE%BF%CE%B4%CF%8C%CF%83%CF%86%CE%B1%CE%B9%CF%81%CE%BF/Super-League/%CE%A3% C F%84%CE%B7%CE%BD-%CE%95%CE%BB%CE%BB%CE%AC%CE%B4%CE%B1-%CE%B7-UEFA-%CE%B3%CE%B9% C E%B1-%CF%84%CE%BF%CE%BD-%CF%86%CE%AC%CE%BA%CE%B5%CE%BB%CE%BF-%CF%84%CE%BF%CF%85 - %CE%A0%CE%91%CE%9F-/24-131747.html |
Author: m-p3
Date: 07-06-2012, 14:49
Edited by: m-p3 at: 07-06-2012, 14:52 | @CySuP Link Google-translate: "Folder of Panathinaikos, which secured the green licensing, open people of UEFA, alleged to have information about some irregularity. The Licensing Committee of the EPO gave a second degree authorization to Panathinaikos, but that does not mean that UEFA and will light the green light. The mission of UEFA are in Athens on Monday (4/6) and in submissions from Panathinaikos there is a problem with licensing. This, argue that the Greens are the only concern there is that the payments to players are out of time, which of course is known. It is worth noting however, that if proven to be a problem with the file and hence the licensing of Panathinaikos, then both the Clover risk to stay out of Europe and the EPO, which will need to explain." |
Author: CySuP
Date: 07-06-2012, 16:52
| @m-p3
My point is that uefa reexamines some of the EPO decisions. However, most of Greek newspapers focus on the case of Panathinaikos. Another link is provided below:
http://www.real.gr/DefaultArthro.aspx?page=arthro&id=151929&catID=6 |
Author: m-p3
Date: 22-06-2012, 07:41
| Panathinaikos got license |
Author: CySuP
Date: 22-06-2012, 14:58
| CAS has rescinded the one-year ban handed out to Bursaspor by UEFA...
http://www.turkish-football.com/news_read.php?id=3082 |
Author: m-p3
Date: 22-06-2012, 15:54
Edited by: m-p3 at: 22-06-2012, 15:55 | @CySuP It is a reliable source? When the CAS had to consider this matter? They are usually much longer consider matters ... |
Author: m-p3
Date: 22-06-2012, 16:07
Edited by: m-p3 at: 22-06-2012, 17:48 | Official site of Bursaspor confirms... edit and CAS confirms Lausanne, 22 June 2012 - The Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) has rendered its decision in the procedure involving the Turkish club Bursaspor KD and UEFA. In particular, the exclusion of Bursaspor KD, which was decided by the UEFA Appeals Body, has been suspended by the CAS for a probationary period of three years. |
Author: Forza-AZ
Date: 22-06-2012, 16:55
| This is bad news for Vitesse, since they now dropped from the last seeded spot in EL-Q3. They can now only be seeded if 1 of these 4 teams (Twente, Lech Poznan, Rosenborg, Elfsborg) is eliminated in EL-Q1 which is very unlikely. |
Author: m-p3
Date: 22-06-2012, 19:12
| Official site of Fenerbahce UEFA’nın Fenerbahçemize 2012-2013 sezonu için Şampiyonlar Ligi’nde mücadele etme hakkı vermesinin ardından UEFA 1. Asbaşkanı Şenes Erzik, alınan bu kararın Türk futbolu ve Türkiye’nin imajı açısından olumlu olduğunu söyledi. Erzik konu ile ilgili olarak "Artık bu konu ile ilgili görüş bildirmeye de gerek kalmadı. Özellikle son bir aydır konu ile ilgili yoğun bir çalışma halindeydik. Bugün verilen karar ile konuyu sonuçlandırdık. Türk futbolu ve Türkiye’nin imajı açısından bu karar çok önemliydi. Artık Fenerbahçe’nin Şampiyonlar Ligi’nda mücadele etmesi için önünde bir engel kalmadı. Bu iş bitti." dedi. --- goal.com --- Translate, please anybody with Turkey. Fenerbahce really banned? |
Author: Forza-AZ
Date: 22-06-2012, 19:25
| If I translate this with Google Translate it looks to me that it says Fenerbahçe can play in the CL. |
Author: john9
Date: 30-06-2012, 15:48
| today is the last day about Licensing? 30 June 2012, teams must prove that they have no outstanding financial obligation |
Author: omonia
Date: 02-07-2012, 16:18
| It is possible for PAOK not to receive a license. Besiktas will bring as an example PAOK's position in order to win their case.
Link in greek http://www.sport-fm.gr/article/563701 |
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