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Author: Lorric
Date: 05-05-2012, 13:52
Edited by: Lorric
at: 05-05-2012, 13:56 | 2011/12
England - Fulham
Norway - Aalesunds
Sweden - Hacken
2010/11
Denmark - Randers
Sweden - Gefle
Finland - MyPa
2009/10
Scotland - Motherwell
Norway - Rosenborg
Denmark - Randers
2008/09
England - Manchester City
Germany - Hertha Berlin
Denmark - Nordsjaelland
2007/08
Norway - Lillestrom
Sweden - Hacken
Finland - MyPa
I see MyPa will get a fair play qualification for the third time in six years next year!
Right, now let's see how much these fair play teams have changed their country's coefficient. I'll work down from strongest to weakest ranked nation.
England
2011/12 - 15.125 (at least)
Fulham - 12
Without Fulham - 16.071
2008/09 - 15.000
Manchester City - 20
Without Manchester City - 14.375
Total - 84.285 (1st) (at least)
New Total - 84.606 (1st)
Germany
2008/09 - 12.687
Hertha Berlin - 8.5
Without Hertha Berlin - 13.286
Total - 75.019 (3rd)
New Total - 75.618 (3rd)
Denmark
2010/11 - 6.700
Randers - 3
Without Randers - 7.625
2009/10 - 4.400
Randers - 4.5
Without Randers - 4.375
2008/09 - 8.200
Nordsjaelland - 4
Without Nordsjaelland - 9.250
Total - 27.525 (13th)
New Total - 29.525 (13th)
Scotland
2009/10 - 2.666
Motherwell - 2
Without Motherwell - 3.500
Total - 21.141 (18th)
New Total - 21.975 (18th)
Sweden
2011/12 - 2.900
Hacken - 4.5
Without Hacken - 2.500
2010/11 - 2.600
Gefle - 2
Without Gefle - 2.750
2007/08 - 5.400
Hacken - 3
Without Hacken - 6.000
Total - 15.900 (24th)
New Total - 16.250 (24th)
Norway
2011/12 - 2.300
Aalesunds - 5.5
Without Aalesunds - 1.500
2009/10 - 2.100
Rosenborg - 2.5
Without Rosenborg - 2.000
2007/08 - 5.400
Lillestrom - 1
Without Lillestrom - 6.500
Total - 14.675 (26th)
New Total - 14.975 (25th)
Finland
2010/11 - 1.800
MyPa - 4.5
Without MyPa - 1.125
2007/08 - 2.625
MyPa - 1.5
Without MyPa - 3.000
Total - 9.133 (30th)
New Total - 8.833 (30th)
Finland wins, everyone else loses. Denmark loses big with 2 whole points dropped. |
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Author: ferdi
Date: 05-05-2012, 14:18
| What would be of more relevance is the average number of spots which are lost because of a reduced coefficient due to fair play teams. It should be less or equal than 1.
For example, without Hertha in 2008/2009, Germany would taken the 3rd place in country ranking one year earlier from Italy.
But that still means that nothing was gained, but also nothing lost for Germany. They would just have had one more team this season, instead of Hertha in 2008/2009.
Whereas for England, the two additional spots had no practical consequences, even if the 5 year coefficient is slightly reduced. |
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Author: Lorric
Date: 05-05-2012, 14:28
Edited by: Lorric
at: 05-05-2012, 14:31 | Yes, I was thinking after I put it that when it comes down to it, countries want more spots and that is what fair play provides. So it's not as simple as just looking at the totals. The 2 points lost to Denmark may carry big practical consequences though in future if it costs Denmark an automatic Champions league spot. Denmark start next year in 15th, behind by 0.725. With the 2pts, they'd be sat in 13th with a 1.275 lead and 1.425 off 12th. It could also cost them a European place if they drop below 15th but the 2pts would have kept them in the top 15.
I'm sure Germany would trade in a Europa League spot for Champions League spot though. Or any Europa League spot due to the later start time. |
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