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EL & CL: eliminated/qualified
Author: JPV
Date: 04-12-2009, 18:38
Edited by: JPV
at: 04-12-2009, 18:39		Just an overview, seems usefull for me at least

(in bold: Champions league, "qualified" = CL))

QUALIFIED
Salzburg (AUS)
Everton (ENG)
Man. United (ENG)
Chelsea (ENG)
Arsenal (ENG)
Villarreal (ESP)
Athletic (ESP)
Sevilla (ESP)
Bordeaux (FRA)
Lyon (FRA)
Hamburg (GER)
Werder (GER)
H. Tel-Aviv (ISR)
Fiorentina (ITA)
Roma (ITA)
Ajax (NET)
PSV (NET)
Porto (POR)
Benfica (POR)
Sporting (POR)
Galatasaray (TUR)
Fenerbahce (TUR)
Shakhtar (UKR)

STILL QUALIFICATION CHANCES
Anderlecht (BEL) (needs a draw/win)
Brugge (BEL) (needs a draw/win)
Standard (BEL) (needs a win and a Arsenal win. If winning/drawing, at least EL)
Dinamo Zagreb (CRO) (if Anderlecht loses & Zagreb wins)
Sparta Praha (CZE) (needs to win)
Křbenhavn (DEN) (mustn't lose)
Fulham (ENG) (needs to win)
Valencia (ESP) (needs a point or Genoa not to win)
Real Madrid (ESP) (needs not to lose 4-0 or more or a Milan loss/draw, otherwise EL)
Barcelona (ESP)(qualified if not losing. If losing, qualified if Inter draws, else depends on goal difference (1 goal difference or 3-1,4-1 is ok, else EL)
Marseille (FRA) (a 4-0 win or a win combined with a Milan loss/draw), otherwise EL)
Lille (FRA) (needs the same (or more) points as Genoa does)
Toulouse (FRA) (needs a win)
Hertha (GER) (a point, or Heerenveen not winning is enough)
Bayern (GER) (needs a win, otherwise EL)
Stuttgart (GER) (needs a win, otherwise EL)
Wolfsburg (GER) (if winning or scoring as much points as Moskva)
Panathinaikos (GRE) (needs a win or draw, or a 0-1 loss)
Olympiacos (GRE) (needs a win or draw or a AZ win, ELSE EL
Internazionale (ITA) (Needs to win, else EL unless Inter loses and Kyiv wins)
Genoa (ITA) (needs to win, or a draw if Lille loses)
Milan (ITA) (a win or Marseille not to win = ok, otherwise EL)
Juventus (ITA) (needs a draw/win, otherwise EL)
Sheriff (MOL) (needs a win & Twente not to win)
Twente (NET) (a win or a Sheriff's draw/loss is ok)
Heerenveen (NET) (needs to win & Hertha to lose)
Dinamo Bucureşti (ROM) (needs a win with 2 goals difference, or a 1-2, 2-3, ... win)
Unirea Urziceni (ROM) (needs a win/draw, otherwise EL)
CSKA Moskva (RUS) (If scoring more points than Wolfsburg, else EL EXCEPT if Besiktas wins 1-0 or with 2 goal difference, then eliminated)
Rubin (RUS) (CL if winning, CL if drawing & Kyiv not winning. EL if losing and Kyiv losing, Eliminated if Kyiv winning and Rubin Kazan not or Kazan losing and Kyiv drawing)
Basel (SUI) (win or draw is ok)
Dynamo (UKR) (Needs to win 2-0 or 3 goals difference OR win & Inter to draw. Else Eliminated, unless Kazan loses & Dynamo draws

ELIMINATED FROM CL, BUT EL
Liverpool (ENG)
Beşiktaş (EL if winning 0-1 or with 2 goal difference, else eliminated)
Atlético (ESP) (EL if winning or APOEL not winning)
APOEL (CYP) (EL if winning and Atlético not winning)
AZ (NET) (needs a win for EL)

ELIMINATED
Sturm Graz (AUT)
Rapid Wien (AUT)
Austria Wien (AUT)
BATE (BLR)
CSKA Sofia (BUL)
Levski (BUL)
Slavia Praha (CZE)
AEK (GRE)
Debrecen (HUN)
Maccabi Haifa (ISR)
Lazio (ITA)
Ventspils (LAT)
Nacional (POR)
Timişoara (ROM)
CFR Cluj (ROM)
Steaua (ROM)
Celtic (SCO)
Rangers (SCO)
Zürich (SUI)
Partizan (YUG)

Re: EL & CL: eliminated/qualified
Author: Wak
Date: 04-12-2009, 21:50 		How do you manage to get this list of needed events for each team's qualification? This is extraordinary. I know there's Wikipedia in English, but I wonder if there's a program which can bring you this stuff out.

Re: EL & CL: eliminated/qualified
Author: JPV
Date: 04-12-2009, 23:39 		excel does the calculations (i can calculate the outcome of each situation), but sometimes it's hard to bring every situation into a comprehensible text...

Tiebreakers such as goal difference have to be calculated manually, if they need to be taken into account, i get a notification i've got to look at goal differences and such.

Re: EL & CL: eliminated/qualified
Author: ilias
Date: 08-12-2009, 09:06 		Small correction about Olympiacos:
Olympiacos (GRE) (needs a win or draw or Standard Liege doesn't win, ELSE EL)

p.s. Excellent job!

Re: EL & CL: eliminated/qualified
Author: JK
Date: 08-12-2009, 11:11
Edited by: JK
at: 08-12-2009, 11:17		All possible places at the end of the group stage:

England

Manchester: 1,2
Chelsea: 1
Liverpool: 3
Arsenal: 1
Fulham: 1,2,3
Everton: 2
Aston Villa: out before group stage

-> 5 qualified, 1 still has a chance, 1 out

Spain

Real Madrid: 1,2,3
Atletico Madrid: 3,4
Barcelona: 1,2,3
Sevilla: 1,2
Valencia: 1,2,3
Villarreal: 2
Athletic Bilbao: 1,2

-> 5 qualified, 2 still have a chance

Italy

Fiorentina: 1,2
Inter Milan: 1,2,3,4
Juventus: 2,3
AC Milan: 1,2,3
Genoa: 1,2,3
AS Roma: 1,2
Lazio Roma: 3

-> 4 qualified, 2 still have a chance, 1 out

Germany

Bayern Munich: 2,3
Wolfsburg: 1,2,3
Stuttgart: 2,3
Hamburg: 1,2
Hertha: 2,3
Werder Bremen: 1,2

-> 5 qualified, 1 still has a chance

France

Bordeaux: 1
Marseille: 1,2,3
O. Lyon: 1,2
Lille: 1,2,3
Toulouse FC: 2,3
Guingamp: out before group stage

-> 3 qualified, 2 still have a chance, 1 out

Qualified means that a team will play in the CL or EL next year.

Re: EL & CL: eliminated/qualified
Author: JPV
Date: 10-12-2009, 14:57 		Pots (EL):

Pot 1
QUALIFIED
Sporting (D)
Galatasaray (F)
Salzburg (G)
Fenerbahce (H)
Benfica (I)
Shakhtar (J)
PSV (K)
Urziceni (CL)
Juventus (CL)
Wolfsburg (CL)
Marseille (CL)

MAYBE:
Ajax (A)
Anderlecht(A)
Valencia (B)
Lille (B)
Genoa (B)
Hamburg (C )
H. Tel Aviv (C )
Roma (E )
Basel (E )
Fulham (E )
Werder Bremen (L)
Athletic Bilbao (L)



pot 2:
QUALIFIED:
Villarreal (G)
Everton (I)
Liverpool (CL)
Rubin Kazan (CL)
Standard Ličge (CL)
Atletico Madrid (CL)

MAYBE:
Ajax(A)
Anderlecht(A)
Dinamo Zagreb(A)
Valencia (B)
Lille (B)
Genoa (B)
Hamburg (C )
H. Tel Aviv (C )
Hertha (D)
Heerenveen (D)
Roma (E )
Basel (E )
Fulham (E )
Panathinaikos (F)
Dinamo Bucuresti (F)

Re: EL & CL: eliminated/qualified
Author: nemesys
Date: 14-12-2009, 15:36 		Valencia (ESP) (needs a point or Genoa not to win)
should be:
Valencia (ESP) (needs a point or Lille not to win)
I guess.

My calculations:
Group A        Pts
Ajax            11 *Q*
Anderlecht       8 Q if: W or D or Dinamo not W
Dinamo Zagreb    6 Q if: W + Anderlecht L
Timişoara        2

AFC Ajax         - RSC Anderlecht
Dinamo Zagreb    - FC Timişoara

Group B        Pts
Valencia         9 Q if: W or D or Lille not W
Lille            7 Q if: W or D + Genoa not W or L + Genoa L
Genoa            7 Q if: W or D + Lille L
Slavia Praha     3

Lille Métropole  - SK Slavia Praha
Genoa CFC        - Valencia CF

Group C        Pts
Hamburg         10 *Q*
H. Tel-Aviv      9 *Q*
Celtic	         5
Rapid Wien 	 4

Hapoel Tel-Aviv  - Hamburger SV
SK Rapid Wien    - Celtic FC

Group D        Pts
Sporting        11 *Q*
Hertha           7 Q if: W or D or Heerenveen not W
Heerenveen       5 Q if: W + Hertha L
Ventspils        3

Hertha Berlin    - Sporting Clube
SC Heerenveen    - FK Ventspils

Group E	       Pts
Roma            10 *Q*
Basel            9 Q if: W or D
Fulham           8 Q if: W
CSKA Sofia       1

PFC CSKA Sofia   - AS Roma
FC Basel 1893    - Fulham FC

Group F        Pts
Galatasaray     13 *Q*
Panathinaikos    9 Q if: W or D or L 0-1
Dinamo Bucureşti 6 Q if: W not 1-0 (by 2+ goals or 2-1,3-2,...)
Sturm            1

Panathinaikos FC - FC Dinamo 1948 Bucureşti
SK Sturm Graz    - Galatasaray AŞ

Group G        Pts
Salzburg        15 *Q*
Villarreal       9 *Q*
Lazio            6
Levski           0

S.S. Lazio       - PFC Levski Sofia
Villarreal CF    - FC Salzburg

Group H        Pts
Fenerbahçe      12 *Q*
Twente           7 Q if: W or Sheriff not W
Sheriff          5 Q if: W + Twente not W
Steaua           3

Steaua Bucureşti - FC Twente
Fenerbahçe SK    - FC Sheriff

Group I        Pts
Benfica         12 *Q*
Everton          9 *Q*
BATE             4
AEK              4

SL Benfica       - AEK Athens FC
Everton          - FC BATE Borisov

Group J        Pts
Shakhtar        13 *Q*
Brugge           8 Q if: W or D
Toulouse         7 Q if: W
Partizan         0

Club Brugge KV	 - Toulouse FC
FK Partizan      - FC Shakhtar Donetsk

Group K        Pts
PSV             11 *Q*
Křbenhavn        7 Q if: W or D
Sparta Praha     7 Q if: W
CFR Cluj         3

AC Sparta Praha  - FC Křbenhavn
CFR 1907 Cluj    - PSV Eindhoven

Group L        Pts
Werder          13 *Q*
Athletic        10 *Q*
Nacional         2
Austria Wien     2

Athletic Club    - Werder Bremen
CD Nacional      - FK Austria Wien

Is this correct?

PS: first post. Hello to everybody