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Author: ssrree
Date: 08-10-2009, 12:36
Edited by: ssrree
at: 08-10-2009, 13:41

Batlle for seeded teams in the 4th QR/CL 2010/11 for champs

1.champion of SCO or GRE
2.Brugge(BEL) 27,380
3.Rosenborg (NOR)23,980
4.Maccabi H.(ISR)19,425
5.CSKA Sofia(BUL)15,300
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6.Odense (DEN) 14,770
7.Red Star (SER)13,200
8.Dinamo Z. (CRO)12,366
9.Salzburg (AUT) 10,627
10.BATE Borisov(BLS)10,058

Champion of SCO or GRE(depend who will be 14th)already has reserved seeded place,also looks for champion of BEL,probably the same is with Rosenborg,new champ of Norway.
Behind them,it will be a big batlle for anothers two spots.
Now situation is like this,because some clubs with great coef.stay bad in his own championships:Kobenhaven(DEN)29,270,Slavia(CZE)27,115,
Levski(BUL)25,300,Aalborg(DEN)24,770,Sparta(CZE)24,115,Hapoel T.A.(ISR)20,425,Austria W.(AUT)16,265,Litex(BUL)15,800,Partizan(SER)13,700,Slovan L.(CZE)13,615,Mlada Boleslav(CZE)13,115,Anorthosis(CYP)12,999 and so on.

Re: Fight for seeded teams in the 4-thQR/CL 2010/11
Author: badgerboy Date: 08-10-2009, 13:49	Just to say that for 2010-11 it's the 2009 country ranking that counts. So the Greek Champion will go straight to the groups, the Scottish Champion might or might not depending on who wins the CL this season & the Swiss Champion (who I guess you have straight in the groups based on the current 2010 ranking) will have to qualify.

Author: ssrree
Date: 08-10-2009, 14:18
Edited by: ssrree
at: 08-10-2009, 20:41

Batlle for seeded teams in the 3th and 4th QR/CL 2010/11 for non champions in this moment looks:

3th round

1.N2 UKR Shakhtar 67,590
2.3th RUS Zenit 60,525
3.N2 NED PSV 56,342
4.N2 SCO Rangers 54,991
5.N2 POR Benfica 54,292
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6.N2 GRE Olympiakos 44,132
7.N2 TUR Galatasaray 36,130
8.N2 BEL Anderlecht 31,380
9.N2 ROM Cluj 15,498
10.N2 SUI Xamax 5,425

4th round

1.N2 UKR Shakhtar 67,590
2.3th RUS Zenit 60,525
3.N2 NED PSV 56,342
4.N2 SCO Rangers 54,991
5.N2 POR Benfica 54,292
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6.N3 GER Schalke 52,341
7.N4 ITA Fiorentina 46,839
8.N4 ENG Manch.City 31,057
9.N4 ESP Deportivo 20,608
10.N3 FRA Montpellier 8,814

Its interesting that right now,all 5 seeded clubs from 3th round would be seeded in 4th round too.But off course,its too early and many clubs will change place,and maybe some countries too!
Batlle is between Italy and Germany for the third place and between Russia,Ukrainne and Romania for the 6th place.
Some clubs can earn much more points and become seeded till the end of season!

Author: ssrree
Date: 08-10-2009, 15:01
Edited by: ssrree
at: 08-10-2009, 20:43

badgerboy@thank you! So then we have SCO and GRE champions bouth direct in CL,and SUI clubs will be in the fight for seeded clubs.
Than its looks like this now

1.Brugge(BEL)27,380
2.Rosenborg(NOR)23,980
3.Maccabi H.(ISR)19,425
4.CSKA Sofia(BUL)15,300
5.Odense(DEN)14,770
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6.Red Star(SER)13,200
7.Dinamo Z.(CRO)12,366
8.Salzburg(AUT)10,625
9.BATE Boris.(BLS)10,058
10.Wisla (POL)8,508

Dinamo Zagreb,Salzburg and Bate Borisov have a good chance to pass Red Star and Odense which are out.

Author: Olympiakos
Date: 08-10-2009, 16:55

I almost forgot when was the last time when we had a direct spot in CL....It is going to be either Panathinaikos or Olympiakos, there's no other candidate.

One question, does anybody know what kind of draw the runner-up will have? I mean is it going to be like this year with a Top 5 country opponent (Panathinaikos - Atletico)? I hope not..

Something else ssrree, I see you frequently say "Witch" but you obviously want to say "which", so bare in mind that Witch is that bad, old granma with the flying besom lol....

Author: ssrree
Date: 08-10-2009, 22:56

@Thanks Olympiakos,I will take care!
Few words more about posiblle changes.Belgian champion(Brugge,Anderlecht or Standard) and Rosenborg are nearly sure like seeded clubs.
Maccabi Haifa needs few more points to be sure,but it will be very defecult to take in CL/GS with Bayern,Juventus and Bordeux.Hapoel T.A. has beter coef. than Maccabi 20,425,but 7 points less in domestic championship.
CSKA Sofia needs to pass group in EL to stay a seeded team,Levski with much beter coef.25,300, has 12 points less in Bulgarian championship.
Odense is out of european cups and has not much chance to finish like seeded club in 4th QR,but here is posiblle change,because Kobenhaven(29,270) has just 3 points less in Denmark championship.
Same story is with Red Star in Serbia,and change on the top is posiblle,because Partizan(13,700) is just 4 points behind in domestic league,and Partizan play in EL!
Dinamo Zagreb is dominant in HNL,and already a new champion,they needs about 6,7 points more in EL to become a seeded in 4th RQ/CL.
Same story is with BATE,new BLS champ and Salzburg,just they needs 8 or 9 points to become seeded.In Austria is posiblle change on the top because Austria W.(16,265)is 3 points behinde Salzburg.
Changes are posiblle in CZE,Sparta(24,115) has 5 points less then first Jablonec.In SUI Young boys have 10 points more then Basel(44,425),so I think Young boys will be a new champion.

Re: Fight for seeded teams in the 4-thQR/CL 2010/11
Author: babasol Date: 09-10-2009, 20:58	My prediction is that seeded teams for champs in PO will be champions of Belgium,Czech,Norway,Croatia and Austria.

Re: Fight for seeded teams in the 4-thQR/CL 2010/11
Author: mozart Date: 12-10-2009, 18:01	@badgerboy: I think you are right. For 2010/2011 CL/EL the ranking of 2008/2009 will count for seedings. As for this year 2009/2010 uefa used the ranking of 2007/2008 with BEL directly qualified and Greece, CZE and SUI straight qualified for Q3. But why uefa does not use the latest rankings for countries like what they do for club teams??

Re: Fight for seeded teams in the 4-thQR/CL 2010/11
Author: Axel Date: 12-10-2009, 18:32 Edited by: Axel at: 12-10-2009, 19:31	Because all countries want to know how many CL & EL spots their leagues get BEFORE their league's campaign start. So all teams know which places to fight for. Except summer leagues like the Russian PL, but in May, at the latest, they know how many EC spots their teams fight for.

Author: ssrree
Date: 23-10-2009, 13:10

After third MD,fight for seeded teams in PO for champs looks

1.BEL Brugge(EL)28.500
2.NOR Rosenborg(out)23.980
3.ISR Maccabi H.(CL)19.525
4.BUL CSKA S.(EL)15.300
5.DEN Odense(out)14.770
--------------------------
6.SRB Red Star(out)13.200
7.CYP Anorthosis(out)12.999
8.AUT Salzburg(EL)12.415
9.CRO Dinamo Z.(EL)12.366
10.BLS BATE (EL) 10.154

Salzburg doing very well job,they already pass group with three wins and soon we can expect them in seeded teams!

Author: ssrree
Date: 23-10-2009, 14:14

After third MD fight for seeded teams in CL/PO for non champs looks

3th round

1.UKR Shakhtar 69.710
2.RUS Zenit 60.591
3.NED PSV 58.576
4.POR Benfica 56.452
5.GRE Panathinaikos 48.299
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6.TUR Galatasaray 38.330
7.SCO Celtic 34.991
8.BEL Anderlecht 32.500
9.ROM Cluj 15.598
10.SUI Xamax 5.525

PO/CL round

1.ENG Arsenal 100.228
2.UKR Shakhtar 69.710
3.RUS Zenit 60.591
4.NED PSV 58.576
5.POR Benfica 56.492
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6.GER Schalke 04 52.474
7.ITA Fiorentina 49.124
8.GRE Panatinaikos 48.299
9.FRA Bordeaux 48.081
10.ESP Deportivo 20.751

Author: ssrree
Date: 06-11-2009, 18:17

After 4th MD Salzburg come to the seeded teams for champs PO/CL 2010/11
Situation right now is:

BEL Brugge(EL)----30.740
NOR Rosenborg(OUT)23.980
ISR Maccabi H.(CL)19.625
DEN Odense(OUT)---14.840
AUT Salzburg(EL)--14.515
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SER Red Star(OUT)-13.200
CYP AnorthosisOUT)12.999
CRO Dinamo ZG(EL)-12.366
BLS BATE Boris(EL)11.208
SLK Žilina (OUT)--10.666
------------------------
POL Wisla(OUT)-----8.508
SUI Young boys(OUT)7.625
CZE Teplice (OUT)--6.855
BUL Chernomore(OUT)6.300
MOL Sheriff (EL)---4.408

First 5 are seeded in PO round,first 10 are seeded in the 3th CL/QR

Author: ssrree
Date: 12-11-2009, 19:51

After 4th MD fight for seeded teams in 3th and 4th round for non champs

3th round

Shakhtar 71.790
Zenit----60.698
PSV------59.742
Benfica--58.692
Rangers--56.058
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Basel----48.625
Olympiak.46.419
Steaua---45.631
Galatasar40.490
Brugge---30.740

4th round

Shakhtar 71.790
HSV------71.741
Zenit----60.698
PSV------59.742
Benfica--58.692
---------------
Rangers--56.058
Tottenham54.371
Valencia-53.980
Fiorentin51.439
Auxerre--18.248

From 9th Fiorentina to 3th Zenit is just 9 points deferents,so it will be very interesting fight for seeded teams in CL/PO round!

Author: ssrree
Date: 04-12-2009, 12:11
Edited by: ssrree
at: 04-12-2009, 12:15

After 5th MD fight for seeded teams for champs in 3th and 4th CL/Q round look like this:

1. BEL Anderlecht(EL) 34.780
2. NOR Rosenborg (out)23.980
3. ISR Maccabi H.(CL) 19.625
4. BUL Litex (out) ---15.800
5. DEN Odense(out)----14.890
----------------------------
6. CRO Dinamo Z.(EL)--14.466
7. SER Red Star (out)-13.200
8. BLS BATE Bor.(EL)--11.208
9. SLK Žilina (out)---10.666
10.AUT Rapid W.(out)--10.615
----------------------------
11.POL Wisla (out)-----8.508
12.SUI Young Boys(out)-7.625
13.CZE Teplice (out)---6.895

First five teams are seeded in PO round,first ten are seeded in 3th round.Clubs which can easily became seeded if they win domestic championat are:

1.SUI Basel(EL)-----48.625(second in DC,7 points less than Y.B.)
2.DEN Kobenhaven(EL)32.390(second in DC,4 points less than Odense)
3.CZE Sparta(EL)----27.395(second in DC,same points,but one game more than Teplice)
4.ISR Hapoel T.A.---24.625(second,6 points less than Maccabi Haifa)
5.AUT Salzburg(EL)--16.615(second,same points us Rapid Wien)
6.SER Partizan(EL)--13.700(second,one point less than Red Star)