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Author: duncshine
Date: 25-09-2008, 14:31
Edited by: duncshine
at: 25-09-2008, 14:32

Hi all,

OK, with pretty well all leagues up and running the model starts to make sense. In previous years we have seen that a coefficient of about 35 was the difference between seeding and non-seeding in the final Champions League Qualifier, but with the change where are we now.

OK, in the Champions Q3

Seeded
SWI1    FC Basel                53.266
GRE1    Olympiakos Piraeus      49.057
AUT1    FK Austria Wien         33.882
CZE1    AC Sparta Praha         27.434
SRB1    FK Partizan Beograd     22.867
Unseeded
BUL1    PFC CSKA Sofia          16.847
DEN1    Odense BK               15.012
CRO1    NK Dinamo Zagreb        14.740
CYP1    Anorthosis Famagusta FC 9.427
SWE1    Kalmar FF               6.848

While in the non-Champions Q3 we have

Ann     Club                    Coefficient
Seeded
SPA4    Sevilla FC              101.290
POR2    Sporting CP Lisbon      62.429
RUS3    CSKA Moskva             60.241
GER3    VfB Stuttgart           43.533
SCO2    Celtic FC               40.951
Unseeded
NET2    SC Heerenveen           35.263
UKR2    FC Dynamo Kyiv          32.602
ENG4    Aston Villa FC          24.567
ITA4    SSC Napoli              20.243
FRA3    Toulouse FC             17.915

OK, we know that as the season progresses the cream rises to the top and the coefficients will also rise.

But what is clear is that the new system will give us more unfashionable teams, probably at the expense of runners-up or third from 2nd rank countries.

What does everyone think of this.

Cheers

Re: Seedings Predictions 2009/10
Author: wisla_krakow_fun Date: 25-09-2008, 16:32	But where is polish team ? :/

Re: Seedings Predictions 2009/10
Author: Lusankya Date: 25-09-2008, 17:08	Current Polish leader Legia Warsaw only has a coefficient of 4.382.

Re: Seedings Predictions 2009/10
Author: wisla_krakow_fun Date: 25-09-2008, 19:09	But Legia Warsaw it isn't a leader a polish league! Leader is a Wisła Cracow ( 15.973 and in next season 9.382 ). It's mistace ...

Re: Seedings Predictions 2009/10
Author: badgerboy Date: 25-09-2008, 19:52 Edited by: badgerboy at: 25-09-2008, 19:53	Well Soccerway has 4 teams level on 13 points with Polonia Warsaw top on goal difference. I'm not sure what the tiebreaker criteria is in Poland but I doubt all 4 teams at the top have played each other yet so any head-to-head numbers must be pretty false.

Author: duncshine
Date: 29-09-2008, 14:16

Re the Polish league. Yes, I use Soccerway to ascertain current league leaders etc. Right now that looks like Legia Warszawa on goal difference.

Currently, they would be seed to go out in Champions' Q2.

In Champions Q3: Basel, Olympiakos, Austria Wien, Slavia Praha and Partizan Beograd would be seeded, with CSKA Sofia just missing out.

In Non-Champ Q3: Sevilla, Arsenal, Internazionale, Werder Bremen and PSV Eindhoven would be seeded, with Sporting Lisbon unseeded despite a current coefficient of 62.429!