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Qualification 2007/2008
Author: bert.kassies
Date: 28-12-2006, 22:15
Today I did the preliminary Qualification 2007/2008 webpage.

Some info on fixtures (in fact mostly the calendar dates of the fixtures) are missing. If you have any info on these dates, or the knowledge that a date is not yet determined by the national FA, or you know when these fixture dates will become available, please post a reply on this topic.

Missing data:
1. Portugal cup: qf ??, sf ??, final ??
2. Russia cup: next ??, qf ??, sf ??, final ??
3. Romania league: next ??, last ??
4. Romania cup: sf ??, final ??
5. Scotland league: last ??
6. Ukraine cup: final ??
7. Turkey cup: qf ??, sf ??, final ??
8. Bulgaria cup: sf ??
9. Israel league: last ??
10. Israel cup: qf ??, sf ??, final ??
11. Slovakia league: next ??, last ??
12. Bosnia-Herzegovina cup: sf ??, final ??
13. Moldova cup: final ??
14. Georgia league: next ??, last ??
15. Macedonia league: last ??
16. Belarus cup: qf ??, sf ??, final ??
17. Albania league: last ??
18. Albania cup: sf ??, final ??
19. Armenia cup: ??
20. Estonia cup: qf ??, sf Apr ??, final ??
21. Malta league: last ??
22. Azerbaijan cup: qf ??, sf ??, final ??
23. Andorra league: last ??
24. San Marino league: next ??, last ??

If possible please give a link to a website, even if written in a domestic language. Thank you.

Re: Qualification 2007/2008
Author: Aliceag
Date: 29-12-2006, 01:30
Surprisingly I cannot find dates for Portuguese Cup, not even in oficial site of the Portuguese FA (http://www.fpf.pt). I know that the 5th round will be 7/1, and the 6th round on 21/1. But I don't know exactly when the 7th and 8th rounds will be. Probably because there are few teams, they will decide between them which mid-week they will play, since it will depend if there are still teams in EC by then. (I remember when Porto won UC and CL, the Portuguese cup games were changed to give them time to breathe)...

Re: Qualification 2007/2008
Author: EvertonChris
Date: 29-12-2006, 01:44
Edited by: EvertonChris
at: 29-12-2006, 02:00
09.05.2007, CUP-FINAL OF THE R. OF MOLDOVA (http://www.turism.md/eng/facility/17/171/)

Re: Qualification 2007/2008
Author: psw
Date: 29-12-2006, 09:06
Edited by: psw
at: 29-12-2006, 09:32
Preliminary dates of Russia tournasment dates were announced 26 December. These dates should be adopted by RFS at January.
So, preliminary Cup dates are:
1/8 - 18 February, 26 February, 04 March, 07 March, 14 March
QF - 04 April, 18 April
SF - 02 May, 09 May
F - 27 May.

I cann't find any info about dates on RFS site (www.rfs.ru).
So reference is to Russian sporting newspaper
http://www.sport-express.ru/art.shtml?132545

Re: Qualification 2007/2008
Author: bert.kassies
Date: 29-12-2006, 12:54
Thank you all. This is good information. Even preliminary info is much better than no info at all.

Russia and Moldavia solved. Still 22 to go.

Re: Qualification 2007/2008
Author: SHEV
Date: 29-12-2006, 13:04
Ukrainian Cup Final will be played on 27.05.2007. It's ALWAYS take place in last sunday of May. Except of course last year when FIFA set their own terms.

Re: Qualification 2007/2008
Author: saras21
Date: 29-12-2006, 13:12
Edited by: saras21
at: 29-12-2006, 13:12
Israeli league final fixture: 26/5/07

Re: Qualification 2007/2008
Author: antonio62tr
Date: 29-12-2006, 13:25
7. Turkey cup: qf ??, sf ??, final ??

they are not announced yet...

Last year qf played at 8-22 March,this year 7-21 March are suitable..
sf played at 5-18 april, 4-18 april sýitable...
Final was at 3rd May - maybe 2nd May this year...

Re: Qualification 2007/2008
Author: bert.kassies
Date: 29-12-2006, 15:01
Edited by: bert.kassies
at: 29-12-2006, 15:01
Thx again. Ukraina and Israel league solved. I guess we have to wait for Turkey. Still 20 to go.

Btw. saras21 do you have any info on the Israel cup fixture dates?

Re: Qualification 2007/2008
Author: saras21
Date: 29-12-2006, 15:58
I think it hasn't been published yet, but I will keep searching for it.

Re: Qualification 2007/2008
Author: Cro_nogomet
Date: 29-12-2006, 21:18
Edited by: Cro_nogomet
at: 29-12-2006, 21:20
Next league round in Romania, Slovakia and Georgia is on schedule on 3rd March.

Also, Swedish and Slovakian champions are certain to start in CL-Q2 because the CL TH will be from a country ranked 1-15. Of course, Slovakia could be in danger if Montenegrian clubs are allowed to participate in Eurocups next season.

Re: Qualification 2007/2008
Author: Cro_nogomet
Date: 29-12-2006, 21:24
http://www.futbalsfz.sk/?menu=22

The fixtures of Slovakian championship are available on this link. The last round will be played on 30.05.2007.

Re: Qualification 2007/2008
Author: levski.bg
Date: 29-12-2006, 22:11
Edited by: levski.bg
at: 29-12-2006, 22:49
Bulgaria cup:

1/4 final - 11 april
1/2 final - 9 may
final - 24 may

http://sport.actualno.com/news_88198.html (only bulgarian version unfortunately )

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The last round of Macedonian championship is in 18 march (weird!?)

http://ffm.com.mk/eng/prvenstvo.asp?liga=1

Macedonia Cup:

1/4 finals - 01.11.2006 29.11.2006
1/2 finals - 11.04.2007 02.05.2007
final - 24.05.2007

http://ffm.com.mk/eng/kup.asp

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The last round in Malta, they give at Sun-13-May-2007

132 Sun-13-May-2007 National Stadium 2 vs 1

http://www.mfa.com.mt/National/prem06-07resph2.htm

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The last round in Andorra: 11/03/2007

http://www.fedandfut.com/pages/lliga.asp?idioma=ang&doit=calendari&div=senior1a

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Re: Qualification 2007/2008
Author: conscious
Date: 30-12-2006, 08:32
@Cro_nogomet
There's also a possibility that the CL-TH will finish out of CL-position in their domestic league, in this case Sweden and Slovakia won't be moved up.

Re: Qualification 2007/2008
Author: ron
Date: 30-12-2006, 09:28
Israel, round 7, 9.1.07 (III division end down):

Ironi Um el_phachem - Maccabi Kiriat gat
Hapoel Marmurk - Hapoel Aarad
Sc Nes Ziona - Maccabi Yavne
Hapoel Ramat-gan - Hapoel Merhavim
Hapoel Kafar Samiaa - Ironi Kiriat ata
Bnei Gdeida - Zafririm Holon
Beitar/shinshon Tel Aviv - Ironi Bat-yam
F.c ahva Aarabe - Hapoel Aafula
Maccabi Hashikma Ramat-gan ) Ironi Shlomi
Bnei Tamra - F.c ahva Kafar Manda
Maccabi Kafer Kana - Ironi Tirat hakarmel
Ironi Rishon L'zion - Hapoel Azur



Next round, some where In February, The first 2 Divisions will join.

Re: Qualification 2007/2008
Author: bert.kassies
Date: 30-12-2006, 10:53
Edited by: bert.kassies
at: 30-12-2006, 11:02
Thanks for the info.

Missed the Slovakian info on that page because I don't speak the language, and didn't find the links to the subpages.

levski.bg, I don't think that the league of Macedonia will end at Mar 18 after 22 matches. I suppose there will be another 11 games but I didn't find any schedule. Also in Andorra there will be a play-off between the top-4 teams, but I can't find the schedule.

Cro_nogomet, you are right of course. The champions of Sweden (Elfsborg) and Slovakia will start in the the 2nd qualifying round because the CL cup-holder will be from one of the top-15 ranked countries. Only Celtic winning the Champions league and not winning the SPL can prevent the champion of Switzerland to start in the 3rd qualifying round.

So still 17 missing fixture dates. Anyone?

Portugal cup: qf ??, sf ??, final ??
Romania league: last ??
Romania cup: sf ??, final ??
Scotland league: last ??
Turkey cup: qf ??, sf ??, final ??
Israel cup: qf ??, sf ??, final ??
Bosnia-Herzegovina cup: sf ??, final ??
Georgia league: last ??
Macedonia league: last ??
Belarus cup: qf ??, sf ??, final ??
Albania league: last ??
Albania cup: sf ??, final ??
Armenia cup: ??
Estonia cup: qf ??, sf Apr ??, final ??
Azerbaijan cup: qf ??, sf ??, final ??
Andorra league: last ??
San Marino league: next ??, last ??

Re: Qualification 2007/2008
Author: conscious
Date: 30-12-2006, 12:44
Edited by: conscious
at: 30-12-2006, 13:37
Last matchday in Georgia seems to be on 16 May. FC Ameri

Quarterfinals of the Belarusian Cup will be played on 1-5 April. football.by

The previous Armenian Cup started in March 2006.

Scottish league ends on 20 May. SPL

Re: Qualification 2007/2008
Author: moro
Date: 30-12-2006, 13:32
About Romania it's sure 100% that there's no exact date for ch-ship and Cup ending. In fact we dont know for sure when it will re-open, I think it's gonna be arround march but it depends on weather, wich is actually unusual "warm and green".

Re: Qualification 2007/2008
Author: conscious
Date: 30-12-2006, 13:39
At least Rapid are going to play Poli Timisoara on 3 March. FC Rapid

Re: Qualification 2007/2008
Author: Maluyaca
Date: 31-12-2006, 11:51
Edited by: Maluyaca
at: 31-12-2006, 11:53
@Bert

Maybe it's too soon but I saw that you already mentioned the teams who will enter CL and Uefa. It aren't a lot but can you already put the seeding and not seeding page of UEFA and CL or is too soon? Maybe just the teams in order of coefficient.

If you use the coefficient of this year needed to be seeded with a marge of +10 and -10 then you would be pretty sure about the correctness of the table

Re: Qualification 2007/2008
Author: bert.kassies
Date: 31-12-2006, 14:23
Thanks again for the info.

@Maluyaca: I will start the seeding lists in March 2007. Since I try to include only entries that are certain it doesn't make much sence to maintain the list before that time. If you want predictions you may find by Ricardo and (I hope soon) by Forza.

Still 15 missing fixture dates:

Portugal cup: qf ??, sf ??, final ??
Romania league: last ??
Romania cup: sf ??, final ??
Turkey cup: qf ??, sf ??, final ??
Israel cup: qf ??, sf ??, final ??
Bosnia-Herzegovina cup: sf ??, final ??
Macedonia league: last ??
Belarus cup: sf ??, final ??
Albania league: last ??
Albania cup: sf ??, final ??
Armenia cup: ??
Estonia cup: qf ??, sf Apr ??, final ??
Azerbaijan cup: qf ??, sf ??, final ??
Andorra league: last ??
San Marino league: next ??, last ??

Re: Qualification 2007/2008
Author: MartinW
Date: 31-12-2006, 18:17
Bert,

For Kazakhstan information on the new qualification page, I am not sure if there are new clubs partcipating this year. You have the Cup Winners as FK Almaty, is this the same as Kairat Almaty or a different club? Also the Uefa Cup team Aktobe Lento, is this the same as FK Aktobe or a different club?

Re: Qualification 2007/2008
Author: bert.kassies
Date: 01-01-2007, 14:26
@MartinW. Aktobe Lento is the old name of FK Aktobe which I will use from now on. FK Almaty (or FC Alma-Ata) and Kairat Almaty are different teams, as can be seen e.g. on eufo.de:

1. FK Almaty,
2003 Founded as Tcesna Almaty
2004 Renamend to FK Almaty

2. Kairat Almaty,
1952 (23.11.) Founded as Dinamo Almaty
1954 Founded as Lokomotiv Almaty
1955 Renamend to Urozhai Almaty
1990 Renamend to FC Almaty
1999 Renamend to Kairat Almaty

Re: Qualification 2007/2008
Author: saras21
Date: 01-01-2007, 15:12
For more info about Kazahstan you can call my friend Borat

Re: Qualification 2007/2008
Author: enxogo
Date: 01-01-2007, 23:56
Portuguese Cup:

Quarter-finals February 28th
Semi-finals April 18th
Final May 27th

Re: Qualification 2007/2008
Author: bert.kassies
Date: 02-01-2007, 18:46
enxogo, thanks for the update. What is the source of this information? Do you know any webpage with that info?

Re: Qualification 2007/2008
Author: enxogo
Date: 02-01-2007, 23:01
Portuguese newspaper A Bola publishes every year (in August) a magazine in which there is a general schedule of Portuguese and international football competitions for the following season.

I do not know any webpage with this kind of informations, shame on Portuguese media and football websites

Re: Qualification 2007/2008
Author: Alexfriend
Date: 03-01-2007, 00:45
Thanks a lot,@enxogo.

I?d made some search to find the portuguese cup schedule for bert(and for all the people here), and couldn?t find anything.

In "A bola" newspaper(www.abola.pt) no data is avaiable, but, of corse, I beleave in you.

Re: Qualification 2007/2008
Author: moro
Date: 03-01-2007, 14:07
Some news from Romania - taken from principal sport-journal www.gsp.ro
Cup quarter final on 27 february.
20-th day ch-ship on March 3.

Re: Qualification 2007/2008
Author: bert.kassies
Date: 03-01-2007, 15:16
Thanks again. In the mean time I found the Azeri schedule on football-plus.az.

Still 13 missing fixture dates:

Romania league: last ??
Romania cup: sf ??, final ??
Turkey cup: qf ??, sf ??, final ??
Israel cup: qf ??, sf ??, final ??
Bosnia-Herzegovina cup: sf ??, final ??
Macedonia league: last ??
Belarus cup: sf ??, final ??
Albania league: last ??
Albania cup: sf ??, final ??
Armenia cup: ??
Estonia cup: qf ??, sf Apr ??, final ??
Andorra league: last ??
San Marino league: next ??, last ??

Re: Qualification 2007/2008
Author: ses56
Date: 04-01-2007, 14:06
QF dates for Turkey: 31.01 & 28.02
SF and Final dates will be announced later.

Re: Qualification 2007/2008
Author: Aliceag
Date: 04-01-2007, 19:37
Portuguese Cup, today in the Newspaper Record (www.record.pt) in the Paper edition came an agenda for 2007 with the schedules of the most important events coming next year.

I confirm that CUP qf is schudeuled to 27th February and Final to 27th May.

However, in 18th April the newspaper Record has the 25th round of Portuguese league, and not Cup SF. I looked every other dates, and Cup SF is not scheduled anywhere on this agenda. So it seems, Portuguese media, don't agree with each other...

Re: Qualification 2007/2008
Author: Edgar
Date: 08-01-2007, 11:13
Edited by: Edgar
at: 08-01-2007, 11:26
Romanian Cup schedule:

QF: Feb 27, 28
SF: Apr 17, 18
F: TBD

Source: FRF

More about the Cup and Liga I:

Liga I

Next round: February 24th
Last round: May 26th

Possible date for the Cup final: May 23rd

Source: FRF

Re: Qualification 2007/2008
Author: bert.kassies
Date: 08-01-2007, 18:37
Edgar, thanks.

Still missing 11 schedules:

Turkey cup: sf ??, final ??
Israel cup: qf ??, sf ??, final ??
Bosnia-Herzegovina cup: sf ??, final ??
Macedonia league: last ??
Belarus cup: sf ??, final ??
Albania league: last ??
Albania cup: sf ??, final ??
Armenia cup: ??
Estonia cup: qf ??, sf Apr ??, final ??
Andorra league: last ??
San Marino league: next ??, last ??

Re: Qualification 2007/2008
Author: EvertonChris
Date: 08-01-2007, 22:11
Edited by: EvertonChris
at: 08-01-2007, 22:35
Thought i had the Turkish dates. But i dont.

Montenegro
Author: Thomaz
Date: 19-01-2007, 21:27
From 'World Soccer' February 2007, page 58

"UEFA has granted Montenegrin clubs entry to European Cup competitions from the 2007-08 season. The league winners will start in the Champions League first qualifying round, while the cup winners will play in the UEFA Cup first qualifying round."

No mention of a second UEFA Cup place!

Re: Qualification 2007/2008
Author: ron
Date: 20-01-2007, 10:11
Israel:

qf: 2/5/07
sf: 16/5/07
finel: 23/5/07

Re: Qualification 2007/2008
Author: bert.kassies
Date: 20-01-2007, 17:18
ron, thanks.

Still missing 10 schedules:

Turkey cup: sf ??, final ??
Bosnia-Herzegovina cup: sf ??, final ??
Macedonia league: last ??
Belarus cup: sf ??, final ??
Albania league: last ??
Albania cup: sf ??, final ??
Armenia cup: ??
Estonia cup: qf ??, sf Apr ??, final ??
Andorra league: last ??
San Marino league: next ??, last ??

Re: Qualification 2007/2008
Author: daggy
Date: 20-01-2007, 19:42
Edited by: daggy
at: 20-01-2007, 19:43
delete please

Re: Qualification 2007/2008
Author: viulo
Date: 22-01-2007, 20:21
For Portugal:

http://www.fpf.pt/portal/page/portal/PORTAL_FUTEBOL/DOCS/DOCS/plano_2006.pdf

If you enter portuguese federation's website, there's a link on top that says competições (competitions). On the next page you have on the right another link for calendário seniores 06/07 (calendar 06/07). Click there and you get the full dates.

I know they're preparing now next season's calendar. I expect that when it's finished it will be published somewhere near the other one. Look for calendário 07/08...

Re: Qualification 2007/2008
Author: sampfan83
Date: 23-01-2007, 04:53
for the Macedonian league - there are only 4 legs still to be played.
the last day of the league is the 18th March 2007 no matter how unrealistic this may sound.

Re: Qualification 2007/2008
Author: executor
Date: 23-01-2007, 09:54
@sampfan83

According to European Football Statistics (Macedonia -> Format of the league) Macedonian league has 33 rounds. So it will not end in March.

Re: Qualification 2007/2008
Author: ses56
Date: 24-01-2007, 22:25
Edited by: ses56
at: 24-01-2007, 22:26
For Albania

The league rounds 23-33 will be played from 10.03 through 26.05.
The fixture for these rounds were already drawn up as numbers and the club names will be replaced by these numbers according to their place in the table after Round 22.

So last day of the league is 26.05.

The format at European-football-statistics.co.uk was discussed at first, but was not adopted. Instead they use a format like Croatia used last year. RSSSF format is correct.

Re: Qualification 2007/2008
Author: Thomaz
Date: 26-01-2007, 20:10
From UEFA website:

"Clubs from Andorra and San Marino will play in the UEFA Champions League preliminary rounds from next season, the UEFA Executive Committee has decided.
A meeting of the new-look Executive Committee in Dusseldorf, the first to be chaired by new UEFA President Michel Platini, decided that one club from each of the two countries would now be able to enter the UEFA Champions League at the first qualifying round stage.
Clubs from UEFA's newest member association, Montenegro, will also take part in the UEFA Champions League and UEFA Cup next season."

See www.uefa.com/uefa/keytopics/kind=64/newsid=501193.html

Re: Qualification 2007/2008
Author: bert.kassies
Date: 26-01-2007, 20:23
The Qualification 2007/2008 has been changed to adopt the new teams. I think the changes to the format will be as follows:

"Since the Champions League cup-holder will be from one of the top-15 ranked countries they will come in at the expense of the last-placed side of that association, in case they don't qualify by their domestic league. This would ususally mean that the champions of the 26th and 27th countries on the ranking list would gain direct access to the 2nd qualifying round. But the UEFA Congress at January 26 decided that clubs from Montenegro, UEFA's newest member association, and Andorra and San Marino will play in the 1st qualifying round of the Champions League. The usual way for UEFA to deal with these new places is to extent the number of teams in the 1st qualifying round by 6 teams. This implies that the champion of the 25th country on the ranking list (Croatia) will have to play in the 1st qualifying round.

In the UEFA Cup 1st qualifying round the places of the champions of Andorra and San Marino (which take part in the Champions League) will be taken by two clubs from Montenegro, UEFA's newest member association. So, no change of format is needed.
"

Re: Qualification 2007/2008
Author: dinamozagreb
Date: 27-01-2007, 03:57
So in the future there won't be any tampering with number of clubs in 1QR. It has to be 28. Right?

Re: Qualification 2007/2008
Author: badgerboy
Date: 27-01-2007, 13:03
"So in the future there won't be any tampering with number of clubs in 1QR. It has to be 28. Right?"

There's always potential tampering!

Theoretically, of course the TH could come from a country outside the top 15, in which case the number of teams would increase.

Secondly, if Platini's plans to go ahead with the reduction of clubs from the top countries goes ahead the number of teams will go back down from the current 76 to 73.

Finally, and perhaps most pertinent to next season, is the issue of club licensing. It's still possible of course for all clubs from an association to be excluded on licensing grounds (as I think happened to Kazakhstan a few years ago). Or - of course - associations can be excluded by UEFA/FIFA. In these cases the numbers could change.

Re: Qualification 2007/2008
Author: Vesuvio
Date: 28-01-2007, 18:58
For San Marino, here is the schedule of full season.

http://www.fsgc.sm/sources/calendario.asp?id=1087

Re: Qualification 2007/2008
Author: bert.kassies
Date: 28-01-2007, 21:27
Vesuvio ,thanks, but the Calendario PlayOff is not yet know.

Still missing schedules:

Turkey cup: sf ??, final ??
Bosnia-Herzegovina cup: sf ??, final ??
Macedonia league: last ??
Belarus cup: sf ??, final ??
Albania league: last ??
Albania cup: sf ??, final ??
Armenia cup: ??
Estonia cup: qf ??, sf Apr ??, final ??
Andorra league: last ??
San Marino league: last ??

Re: Qualification 2007/2008
Author: ron
Date: 30-01-2007, 08:52
New days in Israel:

QF - 25.4
SF - 2.5
Final - 16.5

Re: Qualification 2007/2008
Author: Pelotas
Date: 31-01-2007, 09:44
The website of Levadia Tallinn mentions the estonian cup dates as follows:

QF: 17/04
SF: 01/05
F: 15/05

I got this from http://www.fclevadia.ee/dyna/site/dp240est.html