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| UEFA Cup 13/14 dec | |
| Author: moro
Date: 13-12-2006, 12:03 | Blackburn against Nancy, the bet for Bl. win was 1.75, now is 2.30; for Nancy's win was 4.5, now 3.3. Somebody knows why? Did Blackburn announced playing with second team or what??? What about Tottenham, any news about line-up? |
| Re: UEFA Cup 13/14 dec | |
| Author: badgerboy
Date: 13-12-2006, 12:49 | According to the BBC (and Mark Hughes) Blackburn plan to field a pretty strong line up & want to win the group. Of course all managers say that but there's not much sign of the squad being weak. Here's a link to the BBC site Funnily enough I'm just doing my Forum 2 predictions & this is one game where I've completely changed my mind. Originally this was going to be one of my "gambles" - Nancy a pretty good bet as on European form (beating both Schalke & Feyenoord impressively) they look better to me than Blackburn. Possibly that's why people are putting money on them. Twice live on Eurosport - twice very impressive. But now I see from the domestic table they haven't won away all season so I don't see it as such a good bet... No news on the Spurs-Dinamo game that I'm aware of. |
| Re: UEFA Cup 13/14 dec | |
| Author: saras21
Date: 13-12-2006, 12:53 | Hapoel- Mlada The biggest advantage of Hapoel' their crowd, will be missing today(only half of the stadium) becasue of the high price of tickets. How much do you have to pay in your counrty in uefa cup games like dinamo games, rapid, partizan and in greece or tukrey? |
| Re: UEFA Cup 13/14 dec | |
| Author: moro
Date: 13-12-2006, 13:04 | Ty Badgerboy. I'm under some pressure cause I've made a little bet (13 euro) before GS predicting that Espanol, Parma, Rangers and Blackburn will win their groups, I could get about 16:1 but if Blackburn fails to win... That penalty missed by feyenoord could cost me 500, damn! saras, I hope Hapoel will score in the first half to put some pressure on Panathinaikos, that's the only chance for Rapid... |
| Re: UEFA Cup 13/14 dec | |
| Author: moro
Date: 13-12-2006, 13:08 | Sorry, I meaned 35:1 |
| Re: UEFA Cup 13/14 dec | |
| Author: OMfan
Date: 13-12-2006, 13:09 | @Badgerboy You're right.Nancy done a very good beginning of championship.Since 3 match they have difficulties (3 matches= 1point).(lose away against nice and draw against valencienne: bottom of the table + loose at home against an impressive Lille) They are very strong at home but not away.So it will be difficult for them to win at blackburn. Their trainer Pablo Correa want to play with his best team in black burn whereas Nancy have to play the next matches against OM and lyon(league cup) Difficult to bet...A draw? |
| Re: UEFA Cup 13/14 dec | |
| Author: antonio62tr
Date: 13-12-2006, 13:29 | Yesterday i read at a Turkish newspaper article about Leverkusen which made me upset... Two journalists from paper went to Leverkusen in order to interwiev with players and coach but what they report about them is: Goalkeeper Butt doesnot know they have a game at UC against Besiktas, Coach Skippe told he didnot watch Besiktas before, Voeller, official for football club almost never go to club building...Actually we can not know these are true but if it is taht shows how German teams give importance UC and country point...They have a deadly game and doesnot know about your rival..peuww... |
| Re: UEFA Cup 13/14 dec | |
| Author: OMfan
Date: 13-12-2006, 13:46 | Inreresting @antonio In France sometimes Uc is a goal, sometime not(that depend of the team and the round).But i guess that the problem here is not a problem of interest but professionalism!! How could it be possible.If a team from division 1 is playing a 6th division in cup team every one in the club must prepare it.If it's not the case especially in UC against a good team, there is someting wrong!! |
| Re: UEFA Cup 13/14 dec | |
| Author: moro
Date: 13-12-2006, 13:52 | OM fan, I also hope Steaua will get a french team, PSG+++ (weak) - of course, I still hope they'll draw today but..., or Nancy (because the enthousiasme should disappear until february and that I'm living 100km far from Nancy so I could see the game live). Good luck France, but I hope Romania will pass them at in 2008 ranking. So you should take this good luck only with 5 points handicap... H-5 GL |
| Re: UEFA Cup 13/14 dec | |
| Author: Meatball
Date: 13-12-2006, 14:15 | @Antonio You should not believe everything that is written in a newspaper. I can assure you that all of the players of Bayer Leverkusen know that they are playing against Besiktas on thursday. Assistant coach Peter Hermann and chief scout Willibert Kremer where live in the stadium to watch Besiktas game against Kayserispor. By the way, the name of Leverkusens coach is Skibbe, not Skippe, so much about professional reporting... About Völler "not going to the club building", I can't comment on that, since I don't understand what it is supposed to mean? I am pretty sure that everyone in Leverkusen is taking that game very seriously, actually they are saying that Besiktas is a very strong and technically good opponent. We'll see what the game brings.. |
| Re: UEFA Cup 13/14 dec | |
| Author: saras21
Date: 13-12-2006, 14:22 Edited by: saras21 at: 13-12-2006, 14:22 | @moro After all Rapid has a good chance to qualify. But I don't think that Pao cares about the fist place because it doesn't matter to finish first or second right? What about tickets? |
| Re: UEFA Cup 13/14 dec | |
| Author: moro
Date: 13-12-2006, 14:24 | Of course it matters, because instead playing against Werder or Benfica or Steaua, they could play against Zulte, Osasuna, Wisla (or Feyenoord), etc. But I'm pretty desperate. |
| Re: UEFA Cup 13/14 dec | |
| Author: CantSmileWithoutYou
Date: 13-12-2006, 14:39 | @ Moro. No official news on the Tottenham line up yet, but Martin Jol has been talking about the importance of winning the group to avoid a Champions League drop-out... so whilst there may be a few changes it will be a fairly strong side. We have a league game on Sunday and a League Cup Quarter Final on Wendesday of next week so there will be plenty of chance to rotate a little bit especially for the league cup tie. |
| Re: UEFA Cup 13/14 dec | |
| Author: saras21
Date: 13-12-2006, 15:17 Edited by: saras21 at: 13-12-2006, 15:17 | @moro I don't think that any team will prefere Osasuna on Steaua |
| Re: UEFA Cup 13/14 dec | |
| Author: moro
Date: 13-12-2006, 18:04 | @ Saras Just because they come from Spin is not sure quality. They (Osasuna) were beated by Hamburg! draw at home against Heerenveen... Steaua has much more experience in UC. But it's your opinion. Like me, I was foul of joy at GS draw when rapid got Hapoel, and now I'm crying... |
| Re: UEFA Cup 13/14 dec | |
| Author: saras21
Date: 13-12-2006, 19:48 Edited by: saras21 at: 13-12-2006, 19:49 | @moro I don't blame you that you were happy when Rapid got Hapoel  On the paper Rapid is a better team and it seems comfortable to get an israeli team. I am sure that even if steaua gets Maccabi Haifa in the draw they will be very happy. |
| Re: UEFA Cup 13/14 dec | |
| Author: moro
Date: 13-12-2006, 19:56 | True saras. Latest news, a greek who has few stock-actions at Rapid said that some guys from Panathinaikos staff promisses that Pana will play good football tonight. |
| Re: UEFA Cup 13/14 dec | |
| Author: vlad-tzepesh
Date: 13-12-2006, 19:57 Edited by: vlad-tzepesh at: 13-12-2006, 19:58 | @saras To answer your question about the price of tickets for UC matches in Romania, they are quite expensive for Dinamo's fans. If I recall correctly, the average price for a ticket to see Besiktas or Leverkusen was 90 lei (about 27 euro). However, one could buy tickets to both matches for 120 lei. Rapid had cheaper tickets, I think 30 lei was the average price. |
| Re: UEFA Cup 13/14 dec | |
| Author: moro
Date: 13-12-2006, 20:43 | Lineups: Panathinaikos looks like team that played second GS game at Boleslav, not bad signe for Rapid. Blackburn with half-team. |
| Re: UEFA Cup 13/14 dec | |
| Author: moro
Date: 13-12-2006, 21:35 | So Panathinaikos plays real football, too bad the goalkeeper did a big mistake, now PSG is in. Blackburn-Nancy, frenchies had three or four big chances to score plus one penalty not awarded. |
| Re: UEFA Cup 13/14 dec | |
| Author: moro
Date: 13-12-2006, 21:40 | How's the game in Istanbul? |
| Re: UEFA Cup 13/14 dec | |
| Author: AadteLaat
Date: 13-12-2006, 21:45 | So half way this evening. Wisla is out. Rapid is out. Boleslav is out. Palermo is out. Fener is out. Let's post again in one hour. |
| Re: UEFA Cup 13/14 dec | |
| Author: saras21
Date: 13-12-2006, 21:48 | Thanks for your answer. Hapoel-Mlada 1-1 halftime Hapoel scored first and was the better team in the first 30 minutes but then Mlada started to play good football and scroed |
| Re: UEFA Cup 13/14 dec | |
| Author: Floridian
Date: 13-12-2006, 21:57 | The fate of Rapid is sealed - PSG leads 4-0 already! |
| Re: UEFA Cup 13/14 dec | |
| Author: ggl
Date: 13-12-2006, 22:05 | Rapid is out! |
| Re: UEFA Cup 13/14 dec | |
| Author: ggl
Date: 13-12-2006, 22:37 | Eintracht out! |
| Re: UEFA Cup 13/14 dec | |
| Author: moro
Date: 13-12-2006, 22:40 | GERALD LEHNER from Austria - here's the name of the refferee from Blackburn-Nancy, a shame for the football, although I'm happy Black's wins because of my bet, it was ridiculous helping english team. |
| Re: UEFA Cup 13/14 dec | |
| Author: saras21
Date: 13-12-2006, 22:41 | Hapeol-Mlada 1-1 final Hapoel is thtough!!!!! |
| Re: UEFA Cup 13/14 dec | |
| Author: moro
Date: 13-12-2006, 22:48 | Congrats to Israel! 2 teams in the spring! |
| Re: UEFA Cup 13/14 dec | |
| Author: AadteLaat
Date: 13-12-2006, 22:55 | So only Fener did good the second half -> Frankfurt out now. To me no real surprices this night. Is saved probably for tomorrow. |
| Re: UEFA Cup 13/14 dec | |
| Author: lazio
Date: 13-12-2006, 23:03 Edited by: lazio at: 13-12-2006, 23:04 | When you play just to avoid losing, you get the results...so Rapid is out...that's the story...they deserved to be out. but my favorites Blackburn are still in...top of their group...so I like to see them in the final...with Dinamo...if it's possible... |
| Re: UEFA Cup 13/14 dec | |
| Author: Floridian
Date: 13-12-2006, 23:10 Edited by: Floridian at: 13-12-2006, 23:47 | Who is second in group G - Hapoel or PSG? If I'm not mistaken first tie breaker is athe goal difference, and it is +2 for PSG vs. zero for Hapoel. However uefa.com shows Hapoel in the second place. Is this another uefa.com mixup? Edit: Now it is fixed. |
| Re: UEFA Cup 13/14 dec | |
| Author: delustef
Date: 13-12-2006, 23:20 | Second in Group G is certainly PSG. It?s just another misstake from uefa.com...I hope for a good game and a win for Dinamo tomorrow! |
| Re: UEFA Cup 13/14 dec | |
| Author: moro
Date: 13-12-2006, 23:39 | @Lazio Blackburn showed absolutely nothing tonight, maybe there were some players on the bench, but I'm very dissapointed. Hope Tottenham will play same kind of football tomorrow, to see Dinamo's win 3-2. |
| Re: UEFA Cup 13/14 dec | |
| Author: walter-wade
Date: 14-12-2006, 00:08 | At Fenerbahçe-Leverkusen game there happaned an interesting position.At 83th minute of the game,Turkish team's striker Senturk who scored the second goal of Fenerbahçe had his second yellow card and normally he had to be excluded by the refree having a red card.But in this moment the refree did forget to show red card and the game continued 5-6 seconds. Then Turkish player made remember that he must be excluded from the game, in conclusion of that remark, the refree of the game showed his redcard.Maybe the game is saved to be repeated because of a probable rule mistake, so Turkish team's qualification could be menaced with this game's repetation.. |
| Re: UEFA Cup 13/14 dec | |
| Author: EarlofBug
Date: 14-12-2006, 07:36 | On Bert's site, Hapoel is shown as being second in the group, and PSG as being third... I thought that head to head encounter is the first separator, so in that case Hapoel is second, but I will be happy if goal difference is what determines the place, and PSG will be second in the group. |
| Re: UEFA Cup 13/14 dec | |
| Author: saras21
Date: 14-12-2006, 07:38 | @moro Thanks. Now I hope for a good draw. |
| Re: UEFA Cup 13/14 dec | |
| Author: OMfan
Date: 14-12-2006, 07:54 | @Moro You're right, perhaps Nancy may be less confident in february but we never now.Psg could be better too cause they are seek.Yesterday they win is it a sign?? Rapid out.So Romania 2/3 France 5/8.Let's wait this evening for the last 2 french teams. |
| Re: UEFA Cup 13/14 dec | |
| Author: Ricardo
Date: 14-12-2006, 08:07 | PSG is second, Hapoel TA third. Head to head is not what counts due to the hometeam advantage. It's pure goaldifference that counts. |
| Re: UEFA Cup 13/14 dec | |
| Author: OMfan
Date: 14-12-2006, 11:23 | Yes and I'm sure that Paris had prefered to be third and meet a UCGS first(more chance to pass than against a 3rd classed in CLGS). I Notice UC will be very interesting cause there's a lot of good teams.Noone could say which one will win the cup! |
| Re: UEFA Cup 13/14 dec | |
| Author: Overgame
Date: 14-12-2006, 11:35 | Well, i don(t think so. With a victory 2-0, PSG was almost sure to be 3rd, but 3-0 or more give the 2nd place if Hapoel didn't won. And ending 2nd has a little advantage : the 2nd leg will be played in Paris. |
| Re: UEFA Cup 13/14 dec | |
| Author: MalcolmW
Date: 14-12-2006, 19:18 | @EarlofBug The reason head-to-head is not used is because teams only meet at one venue and not both, so it plainly would not be equitable. |
| Re: UEFA Cup 13/14 dec | |
| Author: moro
Date: 14-12-2006, 19:37 | @OM fan In fact I saw Blackburn-Nancy on TPS, Nancy played very well, there's a young player named KIM, he's incredible. In fact they had 5-7 enormous chances to score plus min 1-max 2 penaltys not awarded by a ridiculous ref who did a thousand mistakes. |
| Re: UEFA Cup 13/14 dec | |
| Author: moro
Date: 14-12-2006, 21:05 | Min 20 looks like Tottenham could make easily 5-1. |
| Re: UEFA Cup 13/14 dec | |
| Author: halftime_champion
Date: 14-12-2006, 22:04 | i guess i was SO right about the romanian teams' way through nowadays european football. it's up and down and up and down and up and down and so on... |
| Re: UEFA Cup 13/14 dec | |
| Author: delustef
Date: 14-12-2006, 22:30 | Dinamo is unfortunately already in winter-break, they do not care about the game. I hope we will meet again Tottenham later! Anyway a fine season for my team! |
| Re: UEFA Cup 13/14 dec | |
| Author: moro
Date: 14-12-2006, 22:34 | @half-time Sorry for not understanding you, when were romanian clubs down since 2004? I'm afraid you're looking 2000-2004 results, come back to reality! |
| Re: UEFA Cup 13/14 dec | |
| Author: Francisco
Date: 14-12-2006, 22:50 | Now that it's over I think that portuguese teams won't have an easy draw for the round of 32. Braga being 3rd, will have to play against one of the top teams in UC: Rangers, Tottenham, Parma, Blackburn, Espanyol, Panathinaikos, Newcastle: I don't think Braga has any chance against any of these teams. Benfica that dropped from CL will have to play against one of the 2nd classified teams: M. Haifa, D. Bucaresti, Sevilla (HOLDERS), Osasuna, Nancy, Ajax, PSG and Celta: I think Sevilla and Ajax will easily defeat Benfica this year. And unless Benfica improves a lot till February the other 6 can actually win over Benfica (ok , maybe PSG is even worse now than Benfica, but like Benfica they have a good chance to improve till February) |
| Re: UEFA Cup 13/14 dec | |
| Author: Overgame
Date: 14-12-2006, 22:51 | If we start to think like that, Romania will not score more than 3 points. |
| Re: UEFA Cup 13/14 dec | |
| Author: Floridian
Date: 14-12-2006, 22:58 | Another mixup on uefa.com - they have Lens in the 5th place while they are in fact 3rd and therefore qualified for the next UC round. |
| Re: UEFA Cup 13/14 dec | |
| Author: moro
Date: 14-12-2006, 23:18 | @Overgame 3 points may be enough for Ro to take 6-th place if Braga loose two games, Porto manage only a draw, and Benfica a victory loosing on aggregate! |
| Re: UEFA Cup 13/14 dec | |
| Author: halftime_champion
Date: 15-12-2006, 00:18 | moro said:"Sorry for not understanding you, when were romanian clubs down since 2004? I'm afraid you're looking 2000-2004 results, come back to reality!" don't get all over my neck just yet, mate. i was stating in one of them threads here the fact that romanian teams generally have the bad habit of swinging from game to game: one high, one low - i wasn't talking about the overall performance of .ro teams in these last few years at the european scoreboard. and i was curious if dinamo would counter my belief-well apparently they've just given me a bit o'credit. personally i favor romania, and i'm not just saying this for your sake or for anyone else's sake 'round here but for myself. unfortunatly, if they wown't learn/discipline themselves to have a constant attitude towards the games they're playing .ro teams will keep ending up 5 mins 'late to their appointment with success. |
| Re: UEFA Cup 13/14 dec | |
| Author: porto-1978
Date: 15-12-2006, 00:26 | Francisco: Even if from now on portuguese clubs (and i guess all the rest) will have dificult tasks, i would not be so dramatic about them. But agree Sporting task is easier - (don?t have one) watching is so much easy... But don?t forget that when task is dificult performance is better. And i notice some clubs are likely to relax when they are not playing at top level. Sporting have that sindrome. Failed with Udinese for CL and then with Halmstads lost the presence in UC. This time they are trying to get Bayern and Inter level and then they don?t know again how to play to a "minor"or not so high level... I know same thing sometimes happen to other clubs. So i think that the fact of being a lot of credited clubs in UC this season (contrary a bit to last edition) it?s a good thing. Even for both Braga and Benfica. Braga have nothing to loose, they will be the under dog anyway. For Benfica i prefer the kind of clubs they can find otherwise they will be in the danger of being favourites, not very good even for their tactic style. Imagine what can happen with Maccabi staring badly at home and playing second leg away with the pressure of being favourites... moro: yes, and PT don?t even have to score any point if RO don?t do better. |