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Author: Wisla_Krakow
Date: 21-07-2006, 17:43
Edited by: Wisla_Krakow
at: 21-07-2006, 22:15 | Like the battle for 15 lets think about 21.
18 Norway 18.225 5/ 5
19 Austria 17.000 4/ 4
20 Serbia 16.833 4/ 4
21 Poland 14.500 4/ 4
22 Hungary 13.498 3/ 3
23 Israel 13.208 4/ 4
24 Denmark 13.116 3/ 3
Poland in next year 22, for my country it is disuaster. This year we fight to get back to 21. Champion Legia. Should lost i 3rd QCL and get to Uefa Group stage without seending in 1st, but it's good club(1-0 PSG,Olympique 0-2 Legia). Wisla Krakow two very bad years but we come back with new trener Dan Petrescu, we should get Group stage. Wisła Płock and Zagłebie Lubin nothing special every point it's good. Unfortunatly in Poland we have 2 good clubs Wisła and Legia. Lech it's building have good money (ofcourse for Polish reality). And next year we've 3 clubs 100% Wisla & Legia 90% Lech.
Let's go Poland !
Whot do you think? |
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Author: budaig
Date: 21-07-2006, 18:13
| Hi!
I'm from Hungary and I think that we haven't got any chance to hold our 22th position. The Hungarian First Division is very weak and our teams play like a catastrophe. Champion DVSC will beat Rabotnicki Skopje (2 matches: 4 points), but in the 3th Qualifying Round they won't get any points against a seeded rival. So they will play at the UEFA Cup and they will get maximum 1 point at 2 games...
So, Debrecen: 6 matches, 5 points
Újpest will win the match at Vaduz, but this will be the final cup- game of the Hungarian runner-up.
Újpest: 2 matches, 3 points
And Fehérvár: The Hungarian Cup- winner will play a draw against Kairat at the 2nd leg of the UEFA Cup 1st Qualifying Round, but they haven't got any chance against a seeded rival in the next round.
Fehérvár: 4 matches, 5 points
Summary: 16 matches, 13 points
(sorry about my English) |
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Author: Serge
Date: 21-07-2006, 18:23
| buidag, welcome, many forum mates and I were waiting a Hungarian here, because I, for example, need an explanation of what Hungarian football is doing. I was shocked after the match against Vaduz. They eliminated a club from my country last season, and I was very mad, because I thought about Liechtenstein as a country with very weak football. But now I understand that Vaduz is better than expected.
I wish goodluck to Hungary, but be aware of Rabotnicki, because they are not bad, they can make even surprises. You can see their results from last year.
Off-topic: As a Moldavian I am with eyes on Spartak, They are playing now, and it's a pity, because they are in a good form. Hope they will play bad against Sheriff :D |
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Author: Giuseppe
Date: 21-07-2006, 18:51
Edited by: Giuseppe
at: 21-07-2006, 18:51 | @budaig - keep in mind that UEFA coefficient points are awarded like this:
- in qualifying rounds - 1 point for a win and 0.5 for a draw
- in the actual competition - 2 points for a win and 1 point for a draw |
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Author: Nick
Date: 21-07-2006, 20:30
| Looking at the ranking. Norway will probably keep the Top 21 place. Same with Serbia and probably Austria. The big question is if Poland will hold the 21st place. Serious contender is actually only Denmark IMHO. |
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Author: Serge
Date: 21-07-2006, 20:34
| Wisla_Krakow , what good transfers did Wisla make, and what impression did Dan Petrescu make ? |
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Author: budaig
Date: 21-07-2006, 21:21
Edited by: budaig
at: 21-07-2006, 21:28 | I have heard that Wisla are interested in Ferencváros Budapest's Macedonian striker Aleksandar Bajevski.
He is a usefulness player like Marek Penksa (another former Ferencváros forward)...
Serge!
I hope Sheriff will beat Moscow and good luck for all Moldavian teams! And I look forward to the matches between our national teams! |
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Author: Wisla_Krakow
Date: 21-07-2006, 22:00
Edited by: Wisla_Krakow
at: 21-07-2006, 22:04 | Transfers:
Aleksandar Bajevski it's old topic, and he for 99% wont be play in Wisla. At now we search forward because we got 2 forward with injury. Maybe we will be buy Mazilu from Sportulu(they dont get licensce for play in 1st league.
New in Wisï¿?a( our mangment only get players for free:/ it's our problem)
Emilian Dolha (GK)
Defender:
Clï¿?ber Guedes de Lima (victoria guimares)
Michael Thwaite(played in Australia u21)
Adam Kokoszka(our junior this year he is really nice !)
Mid:
Hristu Chiacu (Next Romania player:-)
Striker:
Branko Radovanovic (Serbia)
We lost only old GK (Radoslaw Majdan)
In Krakow we are building 2nd part of stadium :-)
About Dan Pestrescu: He got very big respect in Wisla fun. In last year we showed flag with text " Dan We trust you" :D
We trust that the best year(when we won with Schalke,Parma) would come back this year. |
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Author: saras21
Date: 21-07-2006, 22:10
| Israel has good chance if Uefa doesn't decide to move the games from Israel to another country. |
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Author: Serge
Date: 22-07-2006, 10:26
| What I don't like about Dan Petrescu's arrival at Wisla is that he wants to buy players from Romania. I hope he won't take Mazilu (great striker) and now when Sportul is in B, Romanian top teams will take him.
Question: What wage is Wisla prepared to give Mazilu ? Is it higher than 150.000 $ ? |
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Author: Wisla_Krakow
Date: 22-07-2006, 12:02
| Yes if our managment will really want it, for example:
Mauro Cantoro 240,000 Euro/year
Marcin Ku?ba 200,000
Pawe³ Krysza³owicz 195,000
Arkadiusz G³owacki 192,000
Marek Zieñczu 168,000
I think if we can buy him near 1,000,000 Euro, He'll probably go to Wis³a Beacuse we have a lot injures. And we need striker (we have a lot sitatution, but no goals:/) |
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Author: budaig
Date: 22-07-2006, 13:00
| 240.000 Euro/Year????
This is 20.000 Euro/Week!!!
There are more and more Polish players at abroad. Why don't they play at home if the wages are so high in the Polish First Division?
And what about the overall yearly budget of Wisla? 10 or 15 M Euro? |
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Author: badgerboy
Date: 22-07-2006, 13:06
| Sorry budaig but 240.000 a year is more like 4.600 a week.
A wage I'd get out of bed in the morning for but then I'm no professional footballer... |
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Author: Serge
Date: 22-07-2006, 13:08
| Wisla_Krakow, I think in the situation that yesterday happened at Sportul, I can say that it would be much harder for you to buy him, because the top clubs from Bucharest may fight for him too ( due to expected lower price). That's why it's gonna be a tight fight for him. I hope that Mazilu will have a good choice. Anyway, goodluck for getting the first 21, if Wisla will make inspired transfers than they can make good results in UC. |
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Author: Wisla_Krakow
Date: 22-07-2006, 15:47
| 20,000 Euro/month
Whot it's? Secong League in England,Spain,Deutschalnd are giving more, but in Wis³a you can play in Uefa or CL.
I hope the Mazilu will come to Wis³a, Dan really want him. But Owner it,s not Abramovic and no buy everybody whot coach want. At now he only buy if he sell somebody. He want get back 20Mln Euro which he invested. |
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Author: Giuseppe
Date: 22-07-2006, 16:26
Edited by: Giuseppe
at: 22-07-2006, 17:45 | Mazilu is a good striker and I think he will rather go to a club like Steaua, Rapid or Dinamo instead of going to Wisla. I doubt Wisla can give him a better contract than he would get at a big Romanian club and I'm pretty sure that if he gets two similar offers, one from a Romanian club and one from Poland he will prefer to stay here.
I know that the big clubs in Romania have all wanted to buy him for well above 1 million Euros; of course this may change if there will be no change to Sportul's condition.
About players from Romanian that have left to Wisla:
- Emilian Dolha - he's a talented goalkeeper, but he has had injury and contract problems at Rapid for a long time, which means he hasn't played a proffesional match in a long time.
- Hristu Chiacu - he's a young and talented player, but with limited experience. A Romanian player of his age can either turn into a top player or he can go bust. For his sake I hope it will be the first option
- Michael Thwaite - a pretty good defender, but he hasn't played a match at FC National since december last year |
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Author: budaig
Date: 22-07-2006, 17:13
| Sorry, I'm absolutely crazy, I cant count... |
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Author: Wisla_Krakow
Date: 22-07-2006, 17:41
| Giussepe i hope they will bring me and other fans happy in Krakow and i hope that Mazillu will come to Krakow at here he will have a good position |
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Author: Tano
Date: 22-07-2006, 17:47
| About the topic: I think that only Poland is endangered, but not much. |
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Author: Floridian
Date: 22-07-2006, 18:22
Edited by: Floridian
at: 22-07-2006, 23:11 | Denmark will have 4 teams - OB Odense qualified through Intertoto cup.
EDIT: And Austria will have 5 teams, with SV Ried joining UC QR2 through Intertoto.
With Mattersburg and Ried unseeded in QR2, and Superfund unseeded in R1, Austria looks in danger of falling in the rankings this year. |
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Author: bluefan
Date: 23-07-2006, 15:52
Edited by: bluefan
at: 23-07-2006, 15:54 | Norway, Serbia, Poland and Austria will be in the top 21 at the end of the season i think. Hungarians play really bad lately(no offence dudes), Denmark has good teams but i doubt they'll make it
p.s. Israel is total crap... |
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Author: saras21
Date: 23-07-2006, 19:58
| We will see...but I hope they gonna show you Mr... |
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Author: drvasko98
Date: 23-07-2006, 22:13
| Denmark is my favorite to replace Poland in 21 th place. I think another country are not in danger |
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Author: Wisla_Krakow
Date: 27-07-2006, 23:15
| Actual Situation (first this year, overall)
18 Norway 0.800 18.325 4 of 5. Today won and lose
19 Serbia 0.250 17.083 4/4 No games today
20 Austria 0.000 17.000 5/5 Like Serbia
21 Poland 0.500 14.875 3/4One draw. One team out
22 Hungary 0.833 13.998 2/3 Today one won and lose. Whot intersting that the team which won is out, team which lose is in :P
23 Denmark 1.000 13.450 4/4 Won and lose, today.
24 Israel 0.000 13.208 4/4 No games
Change Denmark 24->23 Israel 23->24 |
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Author: budaig
Date: 27-07-2006, 23:18
| Thanks, Wisla Krakow! |
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Author: Kronsky
Date: 01-08-2006, 15:16
| @wisla_krakow,
actually, I'm much more impressed by Korona Kielce than Lech Poznan. If they can keep on like they do, then we could see surprise in next years EC edition!
Best regards,
Kronsky |
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Author: luksus
Date: 02-08-2006, 12:40
| In PL are some teams which have ambitions to be strong in Europe.
In my opinion there are:
* Wisla
* Legia
* Lech (IC 2006: vs. Tiraspol 0:1 & 1:3)
* Kielce
* Plock
Any of them have chances to play good in EC 2006-07. Maybe next season...? |
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Author: Floridian
Date: 02-08-2006, 14:24
| Every team has chances to play good next season..., even teams from Andorra and San Marino. |
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Author: Wisla_Krakow
Date: 03-08-2006, 09:54
| Hmm
Wis³a & Legia - Good teams
Korona - Have stabil budget, good owner, team not to bad not to good, but they would have some poins and they will be unseeded, and this club will be to bad to win
P³ock - Last year they play only with one striker (Jelen [Auxerre>) at now they channge the system with good results 2-1 legia 2-3 Lech but they play nice to 80 minute
Lech - teams with ambition, good fans, good coach. This year very bad intertoto.
Wis³a and Legia will be on 90% in first two position. Only one way to get to Uefa is County cup :> will be interesting |
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Author: Wisla_Krakow
Date: 03-08-2006, 09:57
| Norway 18,925 3/5 2-2 daw Valereng's and out
Serbia 17,333 4/4 3-0 Red star won and play in 3rd
Austria 17.200 5/5 Salzburg won and play
Poland 15,125 3/4 Legia 2-0 and play long
Hungary 13,998 1/3 Debrecen made some suprise and is out. Only one team, not good year for Hungary
Dania 13,450 4/4 Kobenhavn drwa 2-2 with MYPA and play longer. |
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Author: Tano
Date: 24-08-2006, 11:42
| Denmark are verz close to 21st place. Poland now in real danger. |
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Author: Ricardo
Date: 24-08-2006, 13:27
| And those 2 are also the only contenders for place 21. Others are too low or not reachable for Denmark. |
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Author: Floridian
Date: 24-08-2006, 13:32
| @Ricardo:
Israel still might be a player in this fight if their UEFA Cup fortunes will improve today. Tonight we shold see much more clear picture ... |
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Author: Wisla_Krakow
Date: 25-08-2006, 00:38
| 18 Norway 19.525 2/ 5
19 Serbia 17.308 2/ 4
20 Austria 17.700 3/ 5
21 Poland 15.750 2/ 4
22 Denmark 15.575 4/ 4 |
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Author: saras21
Date: 25-08-2006, 09:42
| Israel still has a chance. It depends on the Uefa cup Draw today. Maccabi Haifa almost pass Liverpool even though the game was in Kiev and not in Israel. Hapoel TA is seeded. |
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Author: Wisla_Krakow
Date: 25-08-2006, 13:43
| Norwegia
Molde FK (NOR) - Rangers (Szk)
IK Start (NOR) - Ajax (Hol)
Serbia
FK Crvena Zvezda (SCG) - Slovan Liberec (Cze)
FK Partizan (SCG) - Groningen (Hol)
Austria
FK Austria Wien (AUT) -Legia (POL)
FC Salzburg (AUT) - Blackburn (Ang)
SV Pasching (AUT) - Liovrono (IT)
Polska-
Wis³a Kraków (POL) - Iraklis (GRE)
Legia (POL) - Austria Wieden (AUT)
Dania
Odense BK (DEN) - Herta (Nie)
Randers FC (DEN) - Fenerbache (Tur)
Brøndby IF (DEN) -Eintracht (Nie)
Kopenhaga - CL
Not to bad to Poland :> |
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Author: Floridian
Date: 25-08-2006, 14:17
| Indeed, Poland hopes are on the rise with difficult draw for Danish teams:
Randers seems doomed vs. Fener
OB will find it very hard to beat Hertha
Brondby is not guaranteed to win the tie with Eintraht
Kobenhavn might repeat last year Rapid Wien "success" in CL |
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Author: Nick
Date: 26-08-2006, 19:46
| I think it will be between Poland, Denmark and maybe Israel. Norway, Austria and Serbia have a nice point advantage and none of Denmark and Israel will be able to catch up with them. Actually Israel will also need a miracle like both Maccabi and Hapoel in the groups and at least one of them in spring. My favorite at this time is clearly Denmark if they can bring 1 team in the UEFA GS and the others make a point or two in R1. |
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Author: oxtales
Date: 26-08-2006, 21:39
| Finally a year with some Danish success in the European Cups. We have missed it so much. OB succeed in the Intertoto Cup, FC Copenhagen is ready for the group stage in Champions League and the cup winners from Randers FC is doing very well then we take into consideration that they just are promoted to 1st level. Many danes had not expected to see Randers in the 1st round of the UEFA Cup. The fortune is for Denmark. Randers was very lucky to be seeded in 2nd qualification round and FC Copenhagen was extremely lucky to beat Ajax 2-0 in Amsterdam.
Danish teams have still at least 12(!) matches left this year in the European Cups. From a Danish point of view the Champions League draw is not very bad for FC Copenhagen. It's realistic that FC Copenhagen can snatch some few points - and the big goal now for FC Copenhagen is the 3rd place in the group.
Poland and Israel would lose good seasons next year and that would hopefully bring Denmark back in top 21.
Brøndby have to beat Frankfurt if this season should end up as a great season for Denmark. Unfortunately the Brøndby-team seems to be the weakest in a handful of years so this tie gonna be very close with Frankfurt as small favourites! Maybe OB can snatch a point from Hertha in the 2nd leg, but a tie-win for OB would be a major surprise. Randers seems not to have a chance at all against Fenerbahce. They have to be very happy with just a single point.
/Mark |
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Author: saras21
Date: 27-08-2006, 12:32
| Haifa and Hapoel should be in the group stage, and it depends also if the games will take place in Israel. If the game of Haifa against Liverpool had taken place in Israel, Haifa would have been in the Group stage now. The same with Beitar in Uefa Cup.
I think Denmark will be 21 in the end, because of FC Kopenhagen. |
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Author: ron
Date: 27-08-2006, 13:27
| copenhagen will not bring a point now. |
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Author: Overgame
Date: 27-08-2006, 15:50
| Why are you so sure ?
The Group : Benfica, Caltic and Manchester.
They could bring a few points, see FC Petrzalka last year (Porto, Rangers and Inter) : 1 win 3 draws. |
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Author: coppo
Date: 27-08-2006, 15:58
| I believe Copenhagen can be a surprise. Of course not to go to continue in CL but perhaps to suprise the other teams; Don't forget that this group is together with group H the weakest of all.
And I think you can't underestimate a victory at Ajax. OK Ajax is not that strong anymore but they are according to me of the same level as Benfica or Celtic.
In my eyes about four points for Copenhagen. |
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Author: saras21
Date: 28-08-2006, 17:56
| Probably Copenhagen will not win another points but there Qualification to the group stage is enough for Denmark. Israel will not take part in the fight for the 21 place because we cant play at home...too bad for us... |
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