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Author: bh62
Date: 18-07-2006, 19:33
| will they play on their own ground this time?
or at another ground like stade de france e.g like last time
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Author: uiu
Date: 18-07-2006, 20:21
| Probably OSC Lille will play like the last year in Stade de France,from my knowledge they don't have the stadium that is capable to play CLGS on it. |
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Author: Aegis
Date: 19-07-2006, 07:12
| Lille still hasn't any stadium.
Their old stadium can't be upgraded ans is to be destroyed soon, so they are still playing their league games in a crappy stadium in the suburbs. (Stadium Nord, formerly a track and field stadium)
That stadium is not good enough for UEFA, so they still have to play elsewhere in the Champions League.
However, all the games are to be played in the same stadium, which prevents them to play in the Stade de France since the stadium is already reserved for one of the dates for a show.
So far, it hasn't been announced where they will play. I am not sure but I think it wasn't possible for Lille to play at Lens stadium last year because Lens played the UC, so I don't think they will this year (Lens being Lille arch-rival, they won't do anything to help them)
Other possibilites suck : I heard Metz or Strasbourg could get the games. The towns are far from Lille (360 or 520 km and no high speed train) and the stadiums small (capacity { 30k)
btw, the building of their new stadium has not started yet, there could be the same mess next year and the year after) |
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Author: executor
Date: 19-07-2006, 08:53
| @Aegis
Is this Stadium Nord the one in Villeneuve d'Ascq? Because I've read the latter is a very good stadium. And I also now Lille played there in UEFA Cup in 2005. |
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Author: Aegis
Date: 19-07-2006, 09:23
| Yes, the stadium located in Villeneuve d'Ascq is the Stadium Nord.
picture of the stadium
That's not really what I would call a good stadium.
Yes, they played there in the UEFA's cup, but it is not good enough for the Champions League. (but maybe it is good enough for Q3 and that's why no stadium has been announced yet. The board waits to be sure they will make the group stages before choosing a stadium) |
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Author: JPV
Date: 19-07-2006, 09:49
| Aegis: don't know if you've been there, but that stadium is all but crappy. It's still in decent quality, i've been there a couple of times (for athletics though).
Only disadvantage is the lack of roofs behind the goal, but otherwise, it's (imho) better than their old stadium.
pictures: http://www.unzippo.com/foto/2005%2006%2012%20Villeneuve%20D'asq/index.html (athletic festival) |
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Author: Giuseppe
Date: 19-07-2006, 11:00
| I'd have to agree - this stadium is better than their old stadium; of course that may not be good enough for UCL.
Still I can't help but think UEFA uses two different measures for stadiums in Western Europe and those in Eastern Europe. I'm pretty sure stadiums that were no better than this on were used in UCL. Or maybe stadium requirements have been increased?
In fact I'm not sure why UEFA cares so much about stadiums. As long as there's a decent sized pitch, a flood-light system and reasonable dressing rooms and medical facilities who cares how big the stadium is or what facilities it has for supporters? If I'm willing to pay for a ticket at a stadium with no bucket-seats and no roof it's my money and UEFA shouldn't care what I do with it. |
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Author: Lyonnais
Date: 19-07-2006, 15:57
| UEFA cares about security and i guess that this is understandable.
I had a look at the regulations but i didn't find anything really interesting. It is said that stadiums used for the UCL have to be all-seated but I presume that this is already the case in the Stadium du Nord in Villeneuve d'Ascq. As far as I remember, the issue was a question of stadium capacity (like minimim 20,000 seats) but I didn't find any paragraph discussing this issue in their regulations. |
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Author: Aegis
Date: 20-07-2006, 10:16
| Well, looks like the Q3 home game will be played in Villeneuve d'Ascq.
For the group stage, Metz is the most likely choice, but Sedan is another possibility
Lille : Stadium Nord
Metz : Stade Saint-Symphorien (distance from Lille : 366 km)
Sedan : Stade Louis Dugauguez (distance from Lille : 231 km) |
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Author: lillois
Date: 20-07-2006, 13:04
| I'm a fan of Lille OSC
ABOUT CHAMPION'S LEAGUE
This year, we can't play in stade de France because he is occupied for another animation (for French people : Robert Hossein débarque y faire son spectacle "Ben Hur")
It is possible that we play in stade Bollaert this year, Lens club is not completly against this possibility. Si I think that we play in Bollaert, 90% of chance (If Q3 will good for us)
The club announce the name of stadium just if we are qualified for Group Stage, not before. And we can play Q3 in stadium nord.
If it's not possible to play in Bollaert, another possibility is Charleroi, in Belgium. Lot of people think that it's prohibited to play in a foreign country, it's wrong, read the official regulations, it's possible, but the UEFA give (or not) the authorization (and she prefere say no...)
ABOUT STADIUM
The first project: rebuilding our old stadium, was prohibited by a court. So actually it's a new project and the work must be restart to beginning... We have lost a lot of time with the first project. Three different court give a jugement in this case !
Fan of Lille prefere our old stadium (grimonprez-jooris) because :
- there are no track athletism, grimonprez was a true football stadium
- there are no roof behind the goal and there are often rain in Lille, so...
- the slope of the platform fan is not good, so the visibility of play is not always very good
- and it's a cold stadium, the wind can easily going in stadium and you have always cold. Some people come with a coat in august !
- grimonprez Jooris is near the city center of Lille, around the stadium nord, there are just dwellings (fan love drink some bier just before the match ;-) )
To resume, I think that a lot of people of eastern europe will very happy to have our stadium, but in France, when we compare this to other french stadium, he is not very good.
About new project, the characteristics will know in oktober. The stadium capacity will be between 40.000 and 55.000 seats, maybe with a completly roof, like Arena Amsterdam
PS : It's Lille OSC, not OSC Lille... Our official website is losc.fr, not oscl.fr... Thanks !
To Lyonnais : nous n'avons pas pu jouer la C1 au stadium nord car l'UEFA souhaite une vision de 100% du terrain depuis n'importe quelle place. Je crois qu'il aurait fallu réduire la capacité à 10.000 places (pour un stade de 16.800) Au niveau des normes, c'est essentiellement un problème de capacité, puisque le stade est sectorisé... |
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Author: panda
Date: 20-07-2006, 20:07
| It's great that there are 2 types of discussion on the forum 1) all relevant info is known; we give our opinions and agree or agree to disagree. 2) Not all info is there; the discussion stops, but suddenly, a new poster appears who has been reading the stuff, and has the answer.
So, lillois, are you saying it's not security that forbids stadium nord but the fact that all ticketholders must be able to see pitch properly (no restricted view) and if Lille adhere to this, then they can sell many fewer tickets, so while that might be OK for QR3, once in GS it's better to go to a bigger place? |
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Author: lillois
Date: 20-07-2006, 23:24
| You have a good article here : (that's an article of june 2005)
http://sports.lefigaro.fr/article_football_quel_stade_pour_le_losc___2853.html
I try a translation about the UEFA inspection :
Il y a une semaine, la direction des Dogues accueillait les représentants de l'UEFA pour dresser un état des lieux complet sur le Stadium Lille Métropole.
Last week, Losc Staff accomodate UEFA representatives (official) for inspecte the stadium north
les inspecteurs ne cachaient pas leur pessimisme à l'issue de leurs nombreux contrôles et le premier constat jugeait le Stadium non-conforme à la réglementation pour accueillir une compétition comme la Ligue des Champions.
he inspectors did not hide their pessimism at the end of their many controls and the first report considered Stadium not in conformity with the regulation to accomodate a competition as the C1.
D'une part parce qu'aujourd'hui l'UEFA ne plaisante pas avec les conditions de sécurité, et d'autre part, parce que la capacité de l'enceinte n'est pas suffisante.
On the one hand because today the UEFA does not joke with the conditions of safety, and on the other hand, because the capacity of the stadium is not sufficient.
«Ils nous ont fait part d’inquiétudes en terme de sécurité, d’affluence et de panneautique. Ils se sont montrés inquiets par rapport aux dégagements Nord, Sud et Honneur incontrôlés (arbres, cailloux...)
They made us (man who speak is second president of Losc) share of concerns in term of safety, attendance and panneautic. (panneautic = support of publicity) They were anxious compared to the uncontrolled releases North, South and Honor (trees, stones...)
De plus, les 1000 places réservées aux supporters adverses sont considérablement insuffisantes quand on sait que certains clubs voient trois à quatre mille supporters de chez eux se déplacer.
Moreover, the 1000 places reserved for the visiting supporters are considerably insufficient when it is known that certain clubs see three to four thousand supporters from on their premises moving.
La visibilité contraindrait à fermer dix rangs dans les tribunes Nord, Sud et Honneur. En effet, l’UEFA interdit la vente de places pour lesquelles la visibilité de l’aire de jeu n’est pas de 100%. Nous verrons plus en détail ce qu’ils mettront dans leur rapport en fin de semaine.»
The visibility would force to close ten rows in the platforms North, South and Honor. Indeed, the UEFA prohibits the sale of places for which the visibility of the adventure playground is not 100%. We will see more in detail what they will put in their report in weekend
So.... I found strange this idea of throw stones or tree on the playground... It's more hard to touch a player than Bollaert, because there are a athletism track ;-)
If I remember, UEFa said in final : you can sell less of 10.000 seats, and if you play against english club, sure there are more of 3.000 supporters who comes to Lille. Lot of english come with out ticket, and that can do trouble around the stadium.
This situation is also available for Belgium and dutch team (Anderlecht, Standard Liège, Ajax, Eindhoven for this year) |
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Author: Aegis
Date: 01-08-2006, 17:10
| Gervais Martel (RC Lens president) announced today that if Lille make the group stage, they will play in Bollaert (Lens stadium).
However, Bollaert will be loaned "naked" : VIP rooms will be closed and no LOSC signs (flags,etc...) will be allowed. (not the ones of the fans. The club is not allowed to put his mark on the stadium).
Lens fans won't be pleased. (That's just like if Arsenal did play at Tottenham stadium during the building of the new stadium) |
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Author: dragonaute_auxerrois
Date: 01-08-2006, 18:17
| Dans quel stade jouait le LOSC lors de la Ligue des Champions 2001/2002?
In which stadium played LOSC during Ligue des Champions 2001/2002? |
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Author: badgerboy
Date: 01-08-2006, 20:07
| Apparently they used Lens stadium then too. |
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Author: Aegis
Date: 02-08-2006, 01:07
| Yes, but Lens didn't play in the UEFA's cup that year. |
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