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Author: sampfan
Date: 18-06-2006, 13:11
Edited by: sampfan
at: 18-06-2006, 13:18 | Please visit http://attendance.18.to/ and fill in the survey. It will take you less than 5 minutes.
This survey's intention is to figure out which are the main reasons for attending football matches. The results of the survey will be compared with average attendances throughout european football leagues for the past 5 seasons.
Mainly, a connection between clubs' performance in European competitions or in national leagues and attendance of their home matches is tried to be found. I know that the forum's main purpose is UEFA competitions coefficients but as you will see the survey's goal is to observe whether there is a relationship between the coefficients and the attendance.
Many thanks in advance for your answers.
Click here to enter the survey
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Author: sampfan
Date: 19-06-2006, 18:08
| Thanks a lot for the answers that I have received up to this moment. I am waiting for more answers and in a few days I will reveal the results of the survey as I believe there might be some people interested. |
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Author: panda
Date: 19-06-2006, 18:10
| There is a question about increasing average attendance.
The best-supported clubs sell out their tickets, and there is no way of increasing the attendance without getting a new and bigger stadium. |
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Author: sampfan
Date: 20-06-2006, 09:19
| This is not entirely correct - even the most popular and the most financially stable teams do not have an average equal to the full capacity of their stadiums. Here are the numbers for last season. There are, of course, some exceptions - teams whose average is as close as possible to the full capacity.
Anyway, the general case is difference between average attendances when two consequtive seasons are compared for one and the same team. Even if they didn't enlarge their stadiums.
BV 09 Borussia Dortmund Ger 1 72,140
Real Madrid CF Esp 1 71,257
FC Barcelona Esp 1 70,071
Manchester United Eng 1 68,038
FC Bayern München Ger 1 67,350
FC Schalke 04 Ger 1 61,343
Celtic Sco 1 58,529
AC Milan 1899 Ita 1 58,444
Newcastle United Eng 1 51,983
Internazionale FC 1908 Ita 1 51,967
Hamburger SV Ger 1 51,693
1. FC Köln Ger 1 49,423
Rangers Sco 1 49,212
Olympique de Marseille Fra 1 49,166
VfL Borussia Mönchengladbach Ger 1 47,411
Ajax Ned 1 47,281
Liverpool Eng 1 44,225
Valencia CF Esp 1 44,000
Hertha BSC Berlin Ger 1 43,069
Manchester City Eng 1 43,016
Club Atlético de Madrid Esp 1 42,545
SL Benfica Por 1 42,365
Chelsea Eng 1 41,889
Sevilla FC Esp 1 40,725
Paris Saint-Germain FC Fra 1 40,279
SG Eintracht Frankfurt Ger 1 40,193
Feyenoord Ned 1 39,824
AS Roma Ita 1 39,609
SV Werder Bremen Ger 1 38,998
TSV München 1860 Ger 2 38,932
VfB Stuttgart 1893 Ger 1 38,429
Olympique Lyonnais Fra 1 38,300
Arsenal Eng 1 38,165
Real Betis Balompié Esp 1 37,917
Hannoverscher SV 1896 Ger 1 37,732
FC do Porto Por 1 37,256
Everton Eng 1 36,588
Athletic Club de Bilbao Esp 1 36,182
Tottenham Hotspur Eng 1 36,057
Aston Villa Eng 1 34,295
West Ham United Eng 1 33,561
RC de Lens Fra 1 33,283
Sunderland Eng 1 33,245
PSV Ned 1 33,082
AC Fiorentina Ita 1 32,839
1. FC Kaiserslautern Ger 1 31,458
Sporting CP Por 1 30,609
1. FC Nürnberg VfL Ger 1 29,917
Real Zaragoza Esp 1 29,667
FC Nantes Atlantique Fra 1 28,967 |
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Author: exile
Date: 20-06-2006, 12:31
| In England and Scotland most if the top clubs are at 90% or more of capacity - Man United, Liverpool, Arsenal, Newcastle, Chelsea, Celtic and Rangers.
This was not the case back in the 1960s and 70s when all these clubs had grounds of capacity from 50 to 80 thousand and average attendances much lower than capacity. |
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Author: Gabi
Date: 21-06-2006, 19:11
| How can we see the results of this survey? |
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Author: ignjat63
Date: 21-06-2006, 19:20
| I gaher, Rangers stadium used to have about 125000 spectators or so. Now the number is much smaller as it is an all-seats stadium. Do you guys from Scotland/England think that "all seats" rule was really necessary? In the case of Red Star and Partizan stadiums for example, the rule was not necessary at all. It is just smaller number of spectators, that's all.No need for safety benefit, really. |
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Author: EFS
Date: 21-06-2006, 19:37
| For attendances for more than 30 countries and 60 leagues go to :
EFS. You can also find some historical figures. |
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Author: panda
Date: 22-06-2006, 16:41
| I'm sure all seats was NOT necessary, but after people are killed, the authorities must be seen to be extra careful. However, it has also helped changed the image of football in England- it is more family-friendly than before and hooliganism is less. |
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Author: exile
Date: 22-06-2006, 17:06
| The old type British stadium was not a place for families. No chance to get to the toilets, so a beer can had to be used instead! The swaying of the crowd could be alarming as well. I was at Hampden in a crowd of 85,000 - with 135,000 it must have been frightening.
When the crowds were smaller than capacity it was possible for hooligans to do "cavalry" charges at opposing fans.
Barriers and seats might not be traditional, but they changed football for the better as a spectator sport. |
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Author: panda
Date: 22-06-2006, 18:48
| If it has also changed how English fans behave abroad (we know that Scottish fans have always been among the most welcome and popular in the world) then that's an excellent thing - so far so good at the WC. |
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Author: blackbull
Date: 23-06-2006, 09:59
| Ibrox used to hold in excess of 100,000.
The record attendance is over 118,000.
In fact Rangers are the only British club to have played to 100,000 plus crowds in domestic matches. |
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Author: MalcolmW
Date: 23-06-2006, 17:33
| @blackbull
... surely there were 2 teams in each of the relevant matches? |
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Author: blackbull
Date: 24-06-2006, 11:33
| Well there is actually four if i catch your drift.
Rangers have played to 100,000 plus crowds against Celtic , Hearts and Hibs.
In fact there have been as many ton plus crowds for games aginst the Edinburgh pair as there has been for Old Firm games. |
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Author: gluer
Date: 26-06-2006, 11:56
| When Steaua played in UEFA Cup on Lia Manoliu Stadium the attendance was almost 60000 in 3 matches: Steaua-Betis(Round od 16),Steaua-Rapid(Quarter-final),Steaua-Middlesbrough(Semi-final). |
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