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Author: Malu
Date: 14-05-2006, 21:04
| Anyone knows if Hamburg is seeded in QR3? |
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Author: bert.kassies
Date: 14-05-2006, 21:14
| Yes, Hamburg will be seeded. See Seeding in the Champions League 2006/2007.
This year the first unseeded team will have a coefficient of 28.xxx or lower. That is the lowest value since 2000.First unseeded team in QR3
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2006 ?? { 28.xxx
2005 Slavia Praha Cze 35.223
2004 Wisla Kraków ** Pol 31.177
2003 Slavia Praha ** Cze 48.975
2002 Sporting CP Lisbon Por 34.124
2001 Panathinaikos Gre 37.183
2000 Hamburger SV Ger 30.201 |
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Author: Ricardo
Date: 15-05-2006, 08:42
| I think the 28.xxx is good enough. (not lower):
It is either:
Slovan Liberec 28.769,
Fenerbahce 28.634 or
Fiorentina 28.020 |
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Author: Agent327
Date: 15-05-2006, 09:36
| The highest unseeded team with the lowest points could be Austria Wien with 27.723 |
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Author: Nick
Date: 15-05-2006, 09:58
Edited by: Nick
at: 15-05-2006, 10:00 | Seeding threshold is also significantly lower in CLQR2 this year. Funny enough at the same time in all UEFA Cup rounds the seeding threshhold will be significantly higher.
Last year the last seeded team was:
Valerengen IF Nor 11.665
This year we will probaly have:
Mlada Boleslav Cze 8.769
as last seeded team. |
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Author: Ricardo
Date: 15-05-2006, 10:24
| Yes, I was wrong.
Levski can be replaced by CSKA or Litex, who would be unseeded, which would make Fiorentina(If they will play CL) seeded. |
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Author: panda
Date: 15-05-2006, 10:59
| Is anything to be concluded from the seeded threshold going up or down?
Or can we only look at it in terms of the average co-effs?
I mean, there could just be bunchin at a different point of the list, so to speak. |
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Author: Todor
Date: 15-05-2006, 18:06
Edited by: Todor
at: 15-05-2006, 18:07 | I think the treshold is lower this year , because teams like Dinamo , Shakhtar,Galatasaray and the Polish teams had a bad year , which decreased their coefficients. Also Rosenborg and Sparta Prague are out , and their replacements have lower coefficients. Had 3 or 4 of those had a good year the treshold would have been much higher. |
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Author: panda
Date: 15-05-2006, 18:32
| yes, I understand.
The absolute numbers of teams involved are not that big, and there will always already be a few teams, like Inter or Liverpool, with very high coeffs; it takes only a relatively few teams with low co-eff to qualify to lower the seeding threshold- e.g. Scotland: Hearts co-eff much lower than Rangers. |
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Author: Ricardo
Date: 16-05-2006, 08:30
Edited by: Ricardo
at: 16-05-2006, 08:32 | Can anybody predict the lowest seeded team in CL-Q3 this year??
OK, it's a trick question, last year it was Artmedia 4.850
It will be opponent of Kiew, Levski, Fenerbahce and maybe Rapid or Steaua |
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Author: panda
Date: 16-05-2006, 11:13
| So true Ricardo - despite the fact I have read a lot of times now that 'draw for QR3 takes place before the ties for QR2 are resolved' I forgot that the true 'lowest seed' is also not known till the ties are played! |
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Author: hejazia
Date: 20-05-2006, 14:08
| Sorry RIcardo but Artemedia took Celtic Coefficient, I beleive the lowest seed was somewhere in the 35 last year. |
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Author: panda
Date: 21-05-2006, 12:42
| @Hejazia
Ricardo said it was a TRICK question! We know that the unseeded team takes the seeded team's co-eff because of when the draw is made. I presume the Ricardo point is:
'prediction of the seeding threshold can only be a fuzzy result, because any team causing an upset is in an anomalous place within the draw.' |
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