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Author: TheGame
Date: 01-10-2005, 09:17
| UEFA has received protests from French club AJ Auxerre and Finnish outfit Myllykosken Pallo-47 in relation to their UEFA Cup first round second-leg matches on Thursday.
Technical error
Auxerre claim a technical error occured in their game against PFC Levski Sofia after the Bulgarian side's goalkeeper kicked the ball into touch when an Auxerre player was injured. The protest grounds are that a Levski player took the throw-in, instead of one from Auxerre. Levski won the match 1-0 to proceed to the group stage on away goals following a 2-2 aggregate score.
Disallowed goal
MyPa have submitted a protest about the validity of the result of their game against Grasshopper-Club. The Finnish club are protesting about a disallowed goal scored from a free-kick in the 42nd minute of a match Grasshoppers won 3-0 to progress 4-1 on aggregate. MyPa allege that the goal was given before the decision was reversed following protests by the Swiss team's players.
Next week
The Auxerre protest will be dealt with by UEFA's Control and Disciplinary Committee on Monday afternoon, with MyPa's being heard the following day.
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Author: bert.kassies
Date: 01-10-2005, 09:19
| Seems to become the new fashion: "technical error by referee". |
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Author: svinassa
Date: 01-10-2005, 11:55
| and a very dangerous fashion
UEFA need to be very careful dealing with these claims ; allowing games to be replayed for such reasons is an open gate to nonsense
and FIFA too, thinking about the Uzbekistan-Bahrain game ... |
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Author: unknowable
Date: 01-10-2005, 13:00
| It's also dangerous if referee allows a goal and the other team's protesting has so big influence that the goal was disallowed after the fourth official (who was much far away than the referee) said it to the referee.
This what happened in the MyPa-Grasshoppers match.
Link This:
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Author: Lio
Date: 01-10-2005, 15:05
| sorry but if referee doesn't respect the rules where we go?
What's the interets to play a game lost before?
On day uefa/fifa with their monopoly in referee topics and reglementation contrats will have a big problem : a second bosman (link to charleroi for exemple) |
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Author: SHEV
Date: 01-10-2005, 15:30
| Replay match because of throw-in? It will be something. |
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Author: LevskiFan
Date: 01-10-2005, 16:42
| I don't think the match Levski-Auxerre will be replayed because of that small error....the ref might get a punishment...but the match won't be replayed....if it is, that would be rediculous! |
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Author: TheGame
Date: 01-10-2005, 20:00
| It would be ridiculous in both cases. It doesn't matter why the referee changed his mind. If doesn't matter when he changes his mind, as long as the match is interrupted.
What is MyPa's protest based on anyway? After all it was the correct decision. |
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Author: nitsansh
Date: 02-10-2005, 02:20
| The referree is allowed to change his decision until the match is resumed. It was a matter of judgement, not against any rule.
It's similar in the Auxerre case. The referree gave the throw-in to the wrong team, that happends in almost every match. |
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Author: Osirius
Date: 02-10-2005, 03:49
| I would not like to be in the position of Levski or Grasshoppers,as it can happen to be a replay, and then everything can happen.I remember two occasions with russian clubs when there were replays.
First it was Spartak-Sion when the match ended with 2-2 result and the result wasn't good for Sion,they gave to UEFA complain about wrong sizes of the goals,there was replay and Sion lost 1-5.
Second was wit the Loko-Tirol first match was 3-1,and second was 1-0,but in the second game(when the result was already 1-0 there was a SECON Yellow card to the russian player but referee didn't show him red card,and he played till the end of the game.After the match there were complains of teh austrian club and there was a replay which ended with 1-0 in Tirol favour.
Lucky for us both games ended good.
Second example is clearly a mistake of the referee(dutch one).
So my conclusion is that REPLAY can happen,especially in the Levski-Auxerre game(EAST is not desirable place to go). |
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Author: Nick
Date: 02-10-2005, 07:53
Edited by: Nick
at: 02-10-2005, 07:54 | Actually replay is highly unlikely. If UEFA decides to replay one of these games there will be a major problem finding a free date for this match! The GS begins on oct. 20 and now we have a 2 week break because of the national teams. And how do you make the draw on tuesday if you don't know if Levski or Auxerre will take part in it? Teams are in different pots and you can't just place Auxerre in Pot 4 or Levski in Pot 1 because all other teams will rightfully complain about distorted competition! Same goes for MyPa-Grasshoppers. |
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Author: Osirius
Date: 02-10-2005, 11:33
Edited by: Osirius
at: 02-10-2005, 11:34 | Nick
it was already in the last competition Athletic-Austria were in a draw as not known team,though I understand that an that stage there were no already seedings.But anyway..... |
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Author: Malko
Date: 02-10-2005, 15:07
| Concerning Auxerre, one thing seems to be important. Is this the action that ended with the goal for Levski?
If yes, I just sustain the protest, if no, i don't , even while i support Auxerre rather than Sofia. |
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Author: LevskiFan
Date: 02-10-2005, 16:21
Edited by: LevskiFan
at: 02-10-2005, 16:22 | Mlko, no the error happened 2 minutes before the goal.....and I don't think that affected the match in any way! So the match shouldn't be replayed! That was just the ref's mistake..... |
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Author: Malko
Date: 02-10-2005, 22:42
| I this case, I agree to you... |
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Author: exile
Date: 03-10-2005, 13:19
| There is a difference between a referee making an error of fact (eg allowing a goal if the ball doesn't cross the goal line if, in his opinion, it DID cross the line) and making an error in law (eg knowingly letting a team field an ineligible player, or play with 12 men on the field, or ignoring the away goals rule (eg Sporting-Rangers 1971), conducting the penalty competition incorrectly, letting the match run on for 100 minutes or stopping it
after 80, and so on.
The latter cases might be difficult, if the ref's watch was faulty -
though in that case the assistants (who also have watches) should draw the ref's attention to his error. If he ignored this and stopped a match early, there would be a case for playing the remaining minutes (I think this has happened on a few occasions).
An interesting case is where a goal is incorrectly allowed from an indirect free kick - has happened a few times. Again the assistant should point out the error and this should appear in the report to UEFA/FIFA etc. Not sure I've seen this happen in reality.
In Rugby the referee has absolute authority and I have seen cases where the ref has been wrong in law yet the match has not been anulled or replayed. This is probably because Rugby laws are so complex that a ref isn't expected to get them right 100% of the time. |
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Author: LevskiFan
Date: 03-10-2005, 18:31
Edited by: LevskiFan
at: 03-10-2005, 20:29 | The match Levski-Auxerre will NOT BE REPLAYED! UEFA officialy announced that minutes ago! Ohh... I can breath easily now... lets wait or the draw tomorrow and hope for the best!!!!
here's the link from UEFA....
http://www.uefa.com/uefa/Keytopics/kind=512/newsId=348663.html
SAMO LEVSKI! |
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