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| world cup Qualification this week | |
| Author: spartaan
Date: 28-08-2005, 22:05 | Next week there are a lot of important WC qualifications. In Belgium are the people optimistic, if we can beat Bosnie (away) we can reach WC 2006. What do you think about the next wc matches. |
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| Author: Miki
Date: 29-08-2005, 09:44 | 1 0 2(probability %) Group 1 Romania - Czech Rep. 33 - 33 - 33 Armenia - Netherlands 10 - 20 - 70 Andorra - Finland 10 - 20 - 70 Group 2 Albania - Kazachstan 70 - 20 - 10 Turkey - Denmark 50 - 30 - 20 Georgia - Ukraine 20 - 30 - 50 Group 3 Russia - Lichtenstein 90 - 7 - 3 Portugal - Luxembourg 90 - 7 - 3 Estonia - Latvia 40 - 30 - 30 Group 4 France - Faroe Islands 90 - 7 - 3 Switzerland - Israel 50 - 30 - 20 Group 5 Scotland - Italy 30 - 30 - 40 Slovenia - Norway 40 - 30 - 30 Moldavia - Belarus 33 - 33 - 33 Group 6 Wales - England 20 - 30 - 50 Poland - Austria 50 - 30 - 20 N.Ireland - Azerbaijan 60 - 25 - 15 Group 7 Serbia - Lithuania 70 - 20 - 10 Bosnia - Belgium 30 - 30 - 40 Group 8 Hungary - Malta 90 - 7 - 3 Iceland - Croatia 20 - 30 - 50 Sweden - Bulgaria 50 - 30 - 20 |
| Re: world cup Qualification this week | |
| Author: igrima18
Date: 29-08-2005, 11:49 | Slovenia - Norway 2-0 Poland - Austria 2-0 Serbia and Montenegro - Lithuania 3-1 Georgia - Ukraine 1-4 Hungary - Malta 4-0 Armenia - Netherlands 0-3 Bosnia-Herzegovina - Belgium 1-3 Portugal - Luxembourg 4-0 France - Faroe Islands 3-0 Romania - Czech Republic 2-2 Turkey - Denmark 2-3 Moldova - Belarus 0-1 Albania - Kazakhstan 0-1 Wales - England 1-0 Northern Ireland - Azerbaijan 0-2 Switzerland - Israel 2-0 Sweden - Bulgaria 0-0 Andorra - Finland 1-2 Scotland - Italy 0-3 Iceland - Croatia 0-2 Russia - Liechtenstein 1-0 Estonia - Latvia 0-1 |
| Re: world cup Qualification this week | |
| Author: krdeluxe
Date: 29-08-2005, 13:59 | Slovenia - Norway 1-1 Poland - Austria 2-2 Serbia and Montenegro - Lithuania 2-0 Georgia - Ukraine 0-0 Hungary - Malta 3-0 Armenia - Netherlands 0-3 Bosnia-Herzegovina - Belgium 3-1 Portugal - Luxembourg 5-0 France - Faroe Islands 3-0 Romania - Czech Republic 0-1 Turkey - Denmark 2-1 Moldova - Belarus 0-2 Albania - Kazakhstan 2-0 Wales - England 1-3 Northern Ireland - Azerbaijan 2-0 Switzerland - Israel 2-0 Sweden - Bulgaria 2-0 Andorra - Finland 0-3 Scotland - Italy 0-2 Iceland - Croatia 0-1 Russia - Liechtenstein 3-0 Estonia - Latvia 1-2 |
| Re: world cup Qualification this week | |
| Author: Rox
Date: 29-08-2005, 14:13 | Slovenia - Norway 0-0 Poland - Austria 2-1 Serbia and Montenegro - Lithuania 3-1 Georgia - Ukraine 1-2 Hungary - Malta 3-0 Armenia - Netherlands 0-2 Bosnia-Herzegovina - Belgium 1-1 Portugal - Luxembourg 5-0 France - Faroe Islands 3-0 Romania - Czech Republic 0-1 Turkey - Denmark 2-1 Moldova - Belarus 1-1 Albania - Kazakhstan 2-0 Wales - England 0-2 Northern Ireland - Azerbaijan 1-0 Switzerland - Israel 2-1 Sweden - Bulgaria 2-0 Andorra - Finland 1-2 Scotland - Italy 0-1 Iceland - Croatia 0-1 Russia - Liechtenstein 2-0 Estonia - Latvia 1-1 |
| Re: world cup Qualification this week | |
| Author: eoinh
Date: 29-08-2005, 14:24 | Also next weekend I think the Ivory Coast will knock Cameroon out of the world cup and qualify themselves. Hopefully we will see sides with Green, White and Orange and also Orange, White and Green qualify for the world cup. |
| Re: world cup Qualification this week | |
| Author: SHEV
Date: 29-08-2005, 14:38 | Ireland and Ivory Coast friends forever  But really I want to see Drogba and Ivory Coast playing in WC finals. |
| Re: world cup Qualification this week | |
| Author: walter-wade
Date: 29-08-2005, 14:49 | Slovenia - Norway 0 Poland - Austria 1 Serbia and Montenegro - Lithuania 1 Georgia - Ukraine 2 Hungary - Malta 1 Armenia - Netherlands 2 Bosnia-Herzegovina - Belgium 0 Portugal - Luxembourg 1 France - Faroe Islands 1 Romania - Czech Republic 2 Turkey - Denmark 0 Moldova - Belarus 2 Albania - Kazakhstan 1 Wales - England 2 Northern Ireland - Azerbaijan 0 Switzerland - Israel 1 Sweden - Bulgaria 1 Andorra - Finland 2 Scotland - Italy 2 Iceland - Croatia 2 Russia - Liechtenstein 1 Estonia - Latvia 0 |
| Re: world cup Qualification this week | |
| Author: veteran-sjever
Date: 29-08-2005, 15:44 | Bosnia never lost match in Zenica town and this match is last chance for our national team, too. Problem is that four players can not play, because referee Benet destroyed our team in last match vs Spain( two red cards and 8eight yellow).Especially, Beslija player of Genk and Grlic (Duisburg) and Salihamidzic(surgery).But we hope that we will win, like Norway last year. |
| Re: world cup Qualification this week | |
| Author: Sami.Jukkasjarvi
Date: 29-08-2005, 16:01 | Slovenia - Norway 0-0 Poland - Austria 0-0 Serbia and Montenegro - Lithuania 1-0 Georgia - Ukraine 1-2 Hungary - Malta 3-0 Armenia - Netherlands 0-2 Bosnia-Herzegovina - Belgium 1-1 Portugal - Luxembourg 4-0 France - Faroe Islands 3-0 Romania - Czech Republic 1-0 Turkey - Denmark 0-0 Moldova - Belarus 0-1 Albania - Kazakhstan 2-0 Wales - England 1-2 Northern Ireland - Azerbaijan 1-0 Switzerland - Israel 0-0 Sweden - Bulgaria 2-0 Andorra - Finland 0-3 Scotland - Italy 0-1 Iceland - Croatia 0-1 Russia - Liechtenstein 4-0 Estonia - Latvia 1-1 |
| Re: world cup Qualification this week | |
| Author: Pelotas
Date: 29-08-2005, 20:58 | I'm guessing: Slovenia - Norway 0 Poland - Austria 1 Serbia and Montenegro - Lithuania 1 Georgia - Ukraine 2 Hungary - Malta 1 Armenia - Netherlands 2 Bosnia-Herzegovina - Belgium 2 Portugal - Luxembourg 1 France - Faroe Islands 1 Romania - Czech Republic 0 Turkey - Denmark 1 Moldova - Belarus 0 Albania - Kazakhstan 1 Wales - England 2 Northern Ireland - Azerbaijan 1 Switzerland - Israel 0 Sweden - Bulgaria 1 Andorra - Finland 2 Scotland - Italy 2 Iceland - Croatia 0 Russia - Liechtenstein 1 Estonia - Latvia 1 |
| Re: world cup Qualification this week | |
| Author: max
Date: 29-08-2005, 21:49 | Slovenia - Norway 2 Poland - Austria 1 Serbia and Montenegro - Lithuania 1 Georgia - Ukraine 2 Hungary - Malta 1 Armenia - Netherlands 2 Bosnia-Herzegovina - Belgium 1 Portugal - Luxembourg 1 France - Faroe Islands 1 Romania - Czech Republic 2 Turkey - Denmark 2 Moldova - Belarus 2 Albania - Kazakhstan 1 Wales - England 2 Northern Ireland - Azerbaijan 1 Switzerland - Israel 1 Sweden - Bulgaria 2 Andorra - Finland 2 Scotland - Italy 0 Iceland - Croatia 0 Russia - Liechtenstein 1 Estonia - Latvia 0 |
| Re: world cup Qualification this week | |
| Author: ultras_vk
Date: 30-08-2005, 09:37 | Slovenia - Norway 2-1 Poland - Austria 3-1 Serbia and Montenegro - Lithuania 1-0 Georgia - Ukraine 1-3 Hungary - Malta 4-0 Armenia - Netherlands 1-2 Bosnia-Herzegovina - Belgium 1-1 Portugal - Luxembourg 8-0 France - Faroe Islands 4-0 Romania - Czech Republic 2-1 Turkey - Denmark 1-0 Moldova - Belarus 0-0 Albania - Kazakhstan 1-1 Wales - England 1-1 Northern Ireland - Azerbaijan 1-2 Switzerland - Israel 2-0 Sweden - Bulgaria 3-0 Andorra - Finland 0-6 Scotland - Italy 1-2 Iceland - Croatia 1-3 Russia - Liechtenstein 7-0 Estonia - Latvia 0-0 |
| Re: world cup Qualification this week | |
| Author: Borys
Date: 30-08-2005, 09:37 | Slovenia - Norway X Poland - Austria 1 (tought match, blood will be on the grass, some trash talks started this week, austrain midfielder Kuehbauera said to Adam Ledwoń who plays in Austrain league that he "stinks Polish", Polish players arent't happy with this words and declare hard fight, that clash is last Austria chance to combat for 2nd place in group, Poland will play without Dudek and Krzynówek) Serbia and Montenegro - Lithuania X Georgia - Ukraine 2 Hungary - Malta 1 Armenia - Netherlands 2 Bosnia-Herzegovina - Belgium 2 Portugal - Luxembourg 1 France - Faroe Islands 1 Romania - Czech Republic X ( think Romaniam guys will fight for their lives , they have a lot of bad luck in this qualification) Turkey - Denmark 1 I think, but that will be great clash and everything could hapenned )Moldova - Belarus 2 Albania - Kazakhstan ? 1 Wales - England 2 Northern Ireland - Azerbaijan 1 Switzerland - Israel 1 Sweden - Bulgaria 1 Andorra - Finland 2 Scotland - Italy 2 Iceland - Croatia 0 Russia - Liechtenstein 1 Estonia - Latvia 1 |
| Re: world cup Qualification this week | |
| Author: Iron
Date: 03-09-2005, 01:42 | Slovenia - Norway 2-1 Poland - Austria 3-1 Serbia and Montenegro - Lithuania 2-0 Georgia - Ukraine 1-2 Hungary - Malta 5-1 Armenia - Netherlands 0-3 Bosnia-Herzegovina - Belgium 1-1 Portugal - Luxembourg 6-0 France - Faroe Islands 5-0 Romania - Czech Republic 1-1 Turkey - Denmark 0-1 Moldova - Belarus 1-2 Albania - Kazakhstan 3-1 Wales - England 1-1 Northern Ireland - Azerbaijan 2-1 Switzerland - Israel 1-1 Sweden - Bulgaria 3-1 Andorra - Finland 1-3 Scotland - Italy 1-2 Iceland - Croatia 0-2 Russia - Liechtenstein 3-1 Estonia - Latvia 0-0 |
| Re: world cup Qualification this week | |
| Author: jmf
Date: 03-09-2005, 09:50 | to veteran-sjever : If Belgium didn't win today, no chance to go to WC...It'll be the first time for us since 1978 ! So, big game for both of us. Good match to you. Let's hope the best win ! |
| Re: world cup Qualification this week | |
| Author: eoinh
Date: 03-09-2005, 16:02 | Australia won their first leg play-off 7-0 against the Solomon Islands so i reckon they should go onto meet the fifth placed South American team. Also a few African teams should qualify this week with a host of new faces a possibilty including no Cameroon. |
| Re: world cup Qualification this week | |
| Author: radu
Date: 03-09-2005, 22:38 | ROMANIA-CZECH R. 2-0 !!!!!! |
| Re: world cup Qualification this week | |
| Author: AnorthosisFC
Date: 03-09-2005, 22:52 | Turkey - Denmark : 2-2 VERY good score for GREECE YES! |
| Re: world cup Qualification this week | |
| Author: iwan
Date: 03-09-2005, 22:59 Edited by: iwan at: 03-09-2005, 23:30 | Yes, fore results in otter continents you can look at the webpage: www.rdasilva.demon.co.uk/football.html ore at the webpage: www.fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/t/zone/index.html |
| Re: world cup Qualification this week | |
| Author: Dneprchemp
Date: 03-09-2005, 23:32 | UKRAINE IS IN GERMANY! CONGRATULATIONS! |
| Re: world cup Qualification this week | |
| Author: irshav
Date: 03-09-2005, 23:57 | Ukraine's in the World Cup !!! We FINALLY made it !!!!  |
| Re: world cup Qualification this week | |
| Author: veteran-sjever
Date: 04-09-2005, 11:00 | to jmf Very good match of Bosnian team. I beleive that you could see the match. We are surprised with Antuenis tactic for this match. Belgium didn't have any single chance to score during 90 minutes. Now, we Bosnia has to win in Lithuania, and some chances are... |
| Re: world cup Qualification this week | |
| Author: walter-wade
Date: 04-09-2005, 12:07 | Czech Republic v Armenia 1 Faroe Islands v Israel 2 Malta v Croatia 2 Bulgaria v Iceland 1 Norway v Scotland 1 Finland v F.Y.R. Macedonia 0 Kazakhstan v Greece 2 Russia v Portugal 0 Latvia v Slovakia 2 Ukraine v Turkey 0 Liechtenstein v Luxembourg 1 Northern Ireland v England 2 Republic of Ireland v France 0 Belarus v Italy 2 Denmark v Georgia 1 Lithuania v Bosnia-Herzegovina0 Belgium v San Marino 1 Netherlands v Andorra 1 Poland v Wales 1 Hungary v Sweden 0 Azerbaijan v Austria 0 Moldova v Slovenia 2 Cyprus v Switzerland 2 Spain v Serbia and Montenegro 1 |
| Re: world cup Qualification this week | |
| Author: Rox
Date: 04-09-2005, 13:41 | Czech Republic v Armenia 2-0 Faroe Islands v Israel 1-2 Malta v Croatia 0-3 Bulgaria v Iceland 2-0 Norway v Scotland 2-0 Finland v Macedonia 2-1 Kazakhstan v Greece 0-2 Russia v Portugal 1-1 Latvia v Slovakia 1-1 Ukraine v Turkey 1-1 Liechtenstein v Luxembourg 1-0 Northern Ireland v England 0-2 Ireland v France 2-1 Belarus v Italy 0-1 Denmark v Georgia 2-0 Lithuania v Bosnia-Herzegovina 2-2 Belgium v San Marino 5-0 Netherlands v Andorra 5-0 Poland v Wales 2-0 Hungary v Sweden 1-1 Azerbaijan v Austria 0-2 Moldova v Slovenia 1-1 Cyprus v Switzerland 1-2 Spain v Serbia and Montenegro 1-1 |
| Re: world cup Qualification this week | |
| Author: jmf
Date: 04-09-2005, 14:05 | To veteran-sjever Absolutely ! No discuss. You deserve to win this match. Antheunis is an idiot in tactic. Too defensive (typically flamish-belgian). He missed to qualify Belgium for European Championship in Portugal and now for WC. But he was protected by the federation until now. I hope he'll be fired. At least! Good luck to B-H for the future. |
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| Author: ultras_vk
Date: 04-09-2005, 17:19 | Czech Republic v Armenia 4-0 Faroe Islands v Israel 0-1 Malta v Croatia 0-5 Bulgaria v Iceland 3-2 Norway v Scotland 1-1 Finland v Macedonia 2-2 Kazakhstan v Greece 0-1 Russia v Portugal 1-2 Latvia v Slovakia 0-2 Ukraine v Turkey 1-2 Liechtenstein v Luxembourg 3-1 Northern Ireland v England 0-3 Ireland v France 0-1 Belarus v Italy 1-2 Denmark v Georgia 3-0 Lithuania v Bosnia-Herzegovina 1-1 Belgium v San Marino 7-0 Netherlands v Andorra 7-0 Poland v Wales 4-1 Hungary v Sweden 1-2 Azerbaijan v Austria 0-1 Moldova v Slovenia 0-1 Cyprus v Switzerland 0-2 Spain v Serbia and Montenegro 3-0 |
| Re: world cup Qualification this week | |
| Author: Vlad
Date: 04-09-2005, 18:02 | Czech Republic v Armenia 4-1 Faroe Islands v Israel 0-2 Malta v Croatia 0-3 Bulgaria v Iceland 3-1 Norway v Scotland 2-1 Finland v Macedonia 4-2 Kazakhstan v Greece 0-2 Russia v Portugal 2-1 Latvia v Slovakia 1-1 Ukraine v Turkey 0-1 Liechtenstein v Luxembourg 4-1 Northern Ireland v England 1-2 Ireland v France 0-1 Belarus v Italy 0-2 Denmark v Georgia 3-1 Lithuania v Bosnia-Herzegovina 0-3 Belgium v San Marino 3-0 Netherlands v Andorra 5-0 Poland v Wales 3-1 Hungary v Sweden 0-1 Azerbaijan v Austria 2-3 Moldova v Slovenia 0-3 Cyprus v Switzerland 0-1 Spain v Serbia and Montenegro 1-0 |
| Re: world cup Qualification this week | |
| Author: igrima18
Date: 04-09-2005, 19:13 | Czech Republic v Armenia 2-0 Faroe Islands v Israel 0-2 Malta v Croatia 0-5 Bulgaria v Iceland 1-3 Norway v Scotland 2-1 Finland v Macedonia 2-2 Kazakhstan v Greece 0-3 Russia v Portugal 2-1 Latvia v Slovakia 1-1 Ukraine v Turkey 0-1 Liechtenstein v Luxembourg 2-0 Northern Ireland v England 0-3 Ireland v France 1-0 Belarus v Italy 0-3 Denmark v Georgia 3-0 Lithuania v Bosnia-Herzegovina 0-3 Belgium v San Marino 3-0 Netherlands v Andorra 3-0 Poland v Wales 3-1 Hungary v Sweden 1-0 Azerbaijan v Austria 2-3 Moldova v Slovenia 0-3 Cyprus v Switzerland 2-1 Spain v Serbia and Montenegro 1-0 |
| Re: world cup Qualification this week | |
| Author: veteran-sjever
Date: 04-09-2005, 19:17 | to jmf Thank you very much. We will need luck, especially on Wednesday vs Lithuania. Public opinions are that your coach lost match vs Barbarez, Bajramovic and others. As I can see predictions for Bosnia are more postive than yesterday, but take care our national team can surprise everybody in both sense positive and NEGATIVE. |
| Re: world cup Qualification this week | |
| Author: veteran-sjever
Date: 04-09-2005, 19:21 | Sorry to Ukrainian funs. Congratulations. Good luck in Germany. |
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| Author: eoinh
Date: 04-09-2005, 20:37 | Teams quailified for the world Cup Finals Germany Japan Iran Saudi Arabia South Korea Argentina The Ukraine USA Just watched a brilliant match on eurosport involving Cameroon and the Ivory Coast. A win for the Ivory Coast would have put them through and a draw would have left their qualification in their own hands with just Sudan to play. However Cameroon won 3-2 with a goal in the last 5 mins. Qualification is now in Cameroons hands and it looks like they will qualify. |
| Re: world cup Qualification this week | |
| Author: krdeluxe
Date: 04-09-2005, 20:57 | I think Ghana qualified too for the first time, because they lead by 3 points and their direct results to those 2 teams (South Africa and Congo DR) is better (3-0 home win and 2-0 away win against SA and 0-0 home and 1-1 away against Congo DR) and because South Afica and Congo DR play eachother the last game, only 1 of them can reach the some points as Ghana and direct result counts. |
| Re: world cup Qualification this week | |
| Author: iwan
Date: 04-09-2005, 21:04 Edited by: iwan at: 04-09-2005, 22:37 | In South-America Brazil can qualify today. They lead with 4-0 against Chile. In Africa, in every pool 2 ore 3 teams can win: Pool-1: Togo ore Senegal, Togo has the best chance!! Pool-2: Gahna has the best chance, but COngo and South-Africa too, Krdeluxe has allready told why. Pool-3: Cameroon has now the best chances tp qalify after winning this weekend, but Ivorcoast(ore must I say Cote-D'Ivor ore Elfenbeincoast) has chance too. Pool-4: Angola and Nigeria has the best chance, but it does matter what igeria gonne do tonight in Algaria, Zimbabwe has a little chance too. Pool-5: Tunis had the best chance, but Marocco to, they'll meet each-otter at the last match in Tunis. |
| Re: world cup Qualification this week | |
| Author: dinamozagreb
Date: 04-09-2005, 22:17 | GHANA IS INNNNNNNNNNN MANNNNN.....!!!!!!! WELL DONE. |
| Re: world cup Qualification this week | |
| Author: iwan
Date: 04-09-2005, 22:37 Edited by: iwan at: 04-09-2005, 22:38 | Dear Dynamozagreb, Yes, with one match to go Gahna has 3 points more than Congo DR and South-Africa and a better goal-difference, head-to-head Gahna has a better result against both, but I thought the goal-difference has an higher priority than the results head-to-head. Are you sure about the ruwl head-to-head?!?! That means Gahna didn't officialy qalify, but by head-to-head they did. Is Gahna allready qualified ore not?!?!? |
| Re: world cup Qualification this week | |
| Author: eoinh
Date: 04-09-2005, 22:45 | Ghana havent qualified yet as Congo DR can still qualify as they and Ghana drew twice when playing each other |
| Re: world cup Qualification this week | |
| Author: krdeluxe
Date: 04-09-2005, 22:50 | Yes eoinh is right, on fifa.com it says by teams with same point they look at points gained in group matches between the teams concerned and than goal difference. The goal diffence between Ghana and Congo DR is the same (1-1) and i think it doesnt matter who scored the away goal, so Congo DR can still catch Ghana (but South Africa is definitly out). Next point is goal diffence in all group matches (13-4 for Ghana and 12-8 for Congo DR). Still big chance for Ghana, because Congo DR play South Africa away. |
| Re: world cup Qualification this week | |
| Author: marco
Date: 05-09-2005, 00:28 | When there will be the draw for groups stage? And where? |
| Re: world cup Qualification this week | |
| Author: nitsansh
Date: 05-09-2005, 01:55 | The draw for the world cup finals is on December 9th at Leipzig. Anyone has an idea when the draw for the play-offs in Europe would be made??? Also, how exactly the best 2 runners-up, which qualify automatically, will be determined? How will they compare groups of 6 teams and 7 teams?? BTW... add Brazil to the list of qualifyers... Mexico should book its place on Wednesday with draw at home to Panama. I think the rest of the qualifyers won't be determined until the next round on October 8th... maybe Portugal will also qualify on Wednesday with win in Russia if Slovakia fails to beat Latvia... Costa Rica can practically clinch the 3rd place in CONCACAF with win at home to Trinidad, unless Guatemala upset USA. Draw or win for Trinidad will probably keep the battle for 3rd place alive until the last round on Oct 12, when Guatemala host Costa Rica. Also Paraguay and Ecuador are close to clinch the 3rd and 4th places in South America, but the next round isn't until the weekend of Oct 8-9. |
| Re: world cup Qualification this week | |
| Author: nitsansh
Date: 05-09-2005, 02:01 | World Cup tie-break rules - the official version... 7 In the league system, the ranking in each group is determined as follows: (a) greater number of points obtained in all the group matches; If two or more teams are equal on the basis of the above criterion, their ranking shall be determined as follows: (b) greater number of points obtained in the group matches between the teams concerned; (c) goal difference resulting from the group matches between the teams concerned; (d) greater number of goals scored in the group matches between the teams concerned; (e) goal difference in all the group matches; (f) greater number of goals scored in all the group matches; (g) a play-off on neutral ground Away goals don't count in WC, only in UEFA competitions... |
| Re: world cup Qualification this week | |
| Author: spoonman
Date: 05-09-2005, 04:22 | Quote from FIFA website: "To determine the 2 best 2nd placed teams, the results against the teams of the same group in 1st, 3rd, 4th, 5th, and 6th place will be taken into consideration." Which means: In groups of 7, the results against the bottom team are thrown into the dustbin. This can get particularly interesting in group 1 because Andorra (currently on 5 points) and Armenia (4 points) play each other on the final day of group matches. Romania collected 6 points against Andorra but only 4 points against Armenia - this might make a crucial difference. I'd expect the European playoffs to be drawn 1 or 2 days after the final group matches which will be played on Oct 12. |
| Re: world cup Qualification this week | |
| Author: Ricardo
Date: 05-09-2005, 08:36 Edited by: Ricardo at: 05-09-2005, 08:53 | You still believe that Romania can become 2nd? And they would still have 3 loses, compared to Poland and Sweden currently only 1, and maybe plus 1 against England/Croatia would still make them favorite to go through. Goal difference: Sweden:+24, Poland:+18, Romania:+9. Ofcourse there is more chance for them to get best 2nd then say Spain or France... |
| Re: world cup Qualification this week | |
| Author: spoonman
Date: 05-09-2005, 10:41 Edited by: spoonman at: 05-09-2005, 10:49 | Yes, you're right about Romania's meagre chances of becoming 2nd. It was already very late last night...  But it's still very ironic that a match like Andorra vs Armenia could decide who's going to qualify and who's not. Just imagine the Czechs dropping 2 points against Armenia on Wednesday... UEFA should really do their homework and change this silly system of "uneven" groups. The number of UEFA members has exploded in the past 15 years, and as a consequence I've always been in favour of having a preliminary qualifying round for the weakest nations. They do it in Africa and Asia, why don't we do it in Europe? Let's have 3 or 4 mini tournaments with 4 teams each as a 1st round and then a main qualifying campaign with 8 groups of 5. |
| Re: world cup Qualification this week | |
| Author: Ricardo
Date: 05-09-2005, 11:31 | In combination with Ukraines qualification, the same group is 99.9% sure of having it's second spot having to play a play-off game. The best possible 2nd spot would be Greece with 18 points (discarding Kazak results). England has already more - 19, and Sweden has 18, but a goaldifference that is much better(+24 againt Greece current +5) |
| Re: world cup Qualification this week | |
| Author: spoonman
Date: 05-09-2005, 11:36 | By the way: Will the playoff draw be totally open or is some kind of seeding involved? |
| Re: world cup Qualification this week | |
| Author: mjwillan
Date: 05-09-2005, 11:42 | based on the Andorra/Armenia situation, is it possible that a team may deliberately lose or draw against one of them to help there own qualification chances? This situation occured in the 1999 Cricket World Cup when Australia tried to help the West Indies qualify because they had worse results than New Zealand! |
| Re: world cup Qualification this week | |
| Author: Forza-AZ
Date: 05-09-2005, 12:00 | Also when the Czechs will be 2nd in the group, the match between Andorra and Armenia can still be very important. Assume both Andorra (away versus Netherlands) and Armenia (away versus Czechs) lose on wednesday, then the last match determines who will be last, Armenia has to win to take 6th place. For the Czechs is will most likely be favorible if Andorra stays 6th, because then their goaldifference for the ranking of 2nd placed teams is higher (they won 8-1 and 4-0 versus Andorra, and they won 3-0 versus Armenia, and I don't see them win with 8-0 on Wednesday, so their results versus Andorra are (much) better). |
| Re: world cup Qualification this week | |
| Author: Ricardo
Date: 05-09-2005, 12:51 | Another nice possible lose on purpose(for those who understands the WC seeding system explained in another thread): Holland might want to help Czech to qualify, as that will put France in a lower position on the FIFA ranking, which might just help Holland get seeded during the WC in Germany. (ofcourse losing might cause themselves to drop a spot on the ranking) |
| Re: world cup Qualification this week | |
| Author: dinamozagreb
Date: 05-09-2005, 12:55 | Wait a minute! Why head-to-head don't apply in Ghana-Kongo case? I know Fifa changed the rule and now head-to-head matches count and not goal-difference. But Ghana has scored one away goal in Kongo. Why does not that count? So for exampe if Sweden and Croatia finish with same points, Craotia beat Sweden away 1-0, and If Sweden beats Croatia f.e. 3-2, than Sweden wouldn't be automatically first, but overall goal difference would decide? Is that what youre telling me? |
| Re: world cup Qualification this week | |
| Author: dinamozagreb
Date: 05-09-2005, 13:28 Edited by: dinamozagreb at: 05-09-2005, 13:30 | I DON'T BELIEVE IT !!! YOUR ARE RIGHT!!! AWAY-GOAL RULE DOESNT APPLY I FEEL LIKE CRYING!!! WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS TO MY WEAK HEART YOU FIFA NERDS... Here is the rule: 7 In the league system the ranking in each group is determined as follows: (a) greater number of points obtained in all the group matches; If two or more teams are equal on the basis of the above criterion, their ranking shall be determined as follows: (b) greater number of points obtained in the group matches between the teams concerned; (c) goal difference resulting from the group matches between the teams concerned; (d) greater number of goals scored in the group matches between the teams concerned; (e) goal difference in all the group matches; (f) greater number of goals scored in all the group matches; (g) a play-off on neutral ground. |