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Author: bjkman1903
Date: 25-08-2005, 23:22

After the reasoning of MalcolmW (see here )

Here are the groups

Group 1

Seeded:

1. CSKA Moskva Rus 34,470 U 1
16. Marseille Fra 36,325 Int 3
17. PAOK Gre 35,714 U 1
32. Crvena Zvezda Ser 21,012 U Q2
33. Everton Eng 20,864 C Q3

Unseeded:

48. Aris Thessaloniki Gre 15,714 U 1
49. København Den 15,676 U Q2
64. Baník Cze 10,223 U 1
65. Metalurh Ukr 10,200 U Q2
80. Cork City Irl 1,375 U Q1

Group 2

Seeded:

2. Roma Ita 73,191 U 1
15. Sevilla Spa 36,326 U 1
18. Slavia Praag Cze 35,223 C Q3
31. Hamburg Ger 24,166 Int 2
34. Bolton Eng 20,864 U 1

Unseeded:

47. Braga Por 15,740 U 1
50. CSKA Sofia Bul 15,118 C Q2
63. Germinal Beerschot Bel 10,477 U 1
66. Midtjylland Den 8,676 U Q2
79. MyPa-47 Fin 2,158 U Q1

Group 3

Seeded:

3. Leverkusen Ger 65,166 U 1
14. Alkmaar Net 37,144 U 1
19. Basel Swi 33,889 C Q3
30. Dnipro Ukr 24,200 U Q2
35. Palermo Ita 20,191 U 1

Unseeded:

46. Mainz Ger 16,166 U Q1 (FP)
51. Setúbal Por 14,740 U 1
62. Vålerenga Nor 11,666 C Q2
67. Krylya Sovetov Rus 8,470 U Q2
78. Siroki Brijeg Bos 2,364 U Q1

Group 4

Seeded:

4. Feyenoord Net 62,144 U 1
13. Besiktas Tur 37,872 U Q2
20. Wisla Pol 32,930 C Q3
29. Osasuna Spa 24,326 U 1
36. Sampdoria Ita 20,191 U 1

Unseeded:

45. Rennes Fra 16,325 U 1
52. Guimarães Por 14,740 U 1
61. Groclin Pol 11,930 U Q2
68. Rapid Rom 8,101 U Q1
77. NK Domzale Slo 3,190 U Q2

Group 5

Seeded:

5. Stuttgart Ger 58,166 U 1
12. Lokomotiv Moskva Rus 38,470 C Q2
21. Middlesbrough Eng 32,864 U 1
28. GAK Aus 25,209 U Q2
37. Steaua Rom 20,101 C Q2

Unseeded:

44. Strasbourg Fra 17,325 U 1
53. Debrecen Hun 14,389 C Q2
60. Dinamo Bucuresti Rom 12,101 U Q2
69. Brann Nor 7,666 U Q2
76. Anorthosis Cyp 4,694 C Q1

Group 6

Seeded:

6. Sporting Por 55,740 C Q3
11. Hertha Ger 46,166 U 1
22. Partizan Ser 30,012 C Q2
27. Heerenveen Net 26,144 U 1
38. Brøndby Den 19,676 C Q2

Unseeded:

43. Levski Bul 18,118 U Q2
54. Litex Bul 14,118 U Q2
59. Hibernian Sco 12,477 U 1
70. M. Petach-Tikva Isr 7,218 U Q2
75. Malmö Swe 5,076 C Q2

Group 7

Seeded:

7. Monaco Fra 53,325 C Q3
10. AEK Athene Gre 47,714 U 1
23. Espanyol Spa 29,326 U 1
26. Austria Aus 27,209 U Q2
39. Genk Bel 19,477 U Q2

Unseeded:

42. Teplice Cze 18,223 U Q2
55. Willem II Net 13,144 U 1
58. Viking Nor 12,666 U Q1 (FP)
71. FC Zürich Sui 6,887 U Q2
74. APOEL Nicosia Cyp 5,695 U Q1

Group 8

Seeded:

8. Auxerre Fra 51,325 U 1
9. Galatasaray Tur 50,872 U 1
24. Lens Fra 29,325 Int 2
25. Shakhtar Ukr 28,200 C Q3
40. Grasshoppers Swi 18,889 U Q2

Unseeded:

41. Zenit Rus 18,470 U Q2
56. Halmstad Swe 13,076 U Q2
57. Xanthi Gre 12,714 U 1
72. Tromsø IL Nor 6,665 U Q2
73. Lokomotiv Plovdiv Bul 6,118 U Q2

Re: Uefa Cup Round 1
Author: Nick Date: 26-08-2005, 00:10	UEFA should hire you Really cruel group for CSKA. Hope you're not right

Re: Uefa Cup Round 1
Author: maranton Date: 26-08-2005, 00:11	You cannot put 2 Greek teams in group 1 because the one is seeded and the other unseeded.

Re: Uefa Cup Round 1
Author: Zuberbuler Date: 26-08-2005, 00:12	i hope you`re wrong coz it will be realy cruel for CSKA.Please somebody tell me that there is a mystake

Re: Uefa Cup Round 1
Author: MalcolmW Date: 26-08-2005, 00:17	The above groups are before adjusting to ensure country protection. I think the following adjustments are feasible: Swap Aris and Mainz, Groclin and Dinamo Bucharest, Strasbourg and Levski Sofia, and Sporting Lisbon and Auxerre.

Re: Uefa Cup Round 1
Author: timbo Date: 26-08-2005, 00:22	I think we wil see it tomorrow at 13h CET

Re: Uefa Cup Round 1
Author: peter Date: 26-08-2005, 07:43	i dont think so you right , you put 2 romanian teams toghether one seeded and one unseeded. I think a computer will do this, uefa has a software or something

Re: Uefa Cup Round 1
Author: redsteve Date: 26-08-2005, 09:57	When is the pre-draw?

Author: vakho
Date: 26-08-2005, 10:28

Pre-draw as in uefa.com

Group 1: Seeded vs. Unseeded
AJ Auxerre (FRA) PFC Levski Sofia (BUL)
PAOK FC (GRE) FC København (DEN)
SK Slavia Praha (CZE) FC Dinamo Bucuresti (ROU)
Hamburger SV (GER) FC Metalurh Donetsk (UKR)
Everton FC (ENG) Cork City FC (IRL)

Group 2: Seeded vs. Unseeded
Bayer 04 Leverkusen (GER) SC Braga (POR)
Olympique de Marseille (FRA) PFC CSKA Sofia (BUL)
PFC CSKA Moskva (RUS) KFC Germinal Beerschot Antwerpen (BEL)
FK Crvena Zvezda (SCG) FC Midtjylland (DEN)
Grasshopper-Club (SUI) Myllykosken Pallo-47 (FIN)

Group 3: Seeded vs. Unseeded
Feyenoord (NED) 1. FSV Mainz 05 (GER)
Sevilla FC (ESP) Vitória FC (POR)
FC Basel 1893 (SUI) Hibernian FC (SCO)
FC Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk (UKR) AFC Rapid Bucuresti (ROU)
UC Sampdoria (ITA) NK Široki Brijeg (BIH)

Group 4; Seeded vs. Unseeded
VfB Stuttgart (GER) Stade Rennais FC (FRA)
AZ Alkmaar (NED) Vitória SC (POR)
Wisla Kraków (POL) Vålerenga IF (NOR)
CA Osasuna (ESP) FC Krylya Sovetov Samara (RUS)
FC Steaua Bucuresti (ROU) NK Domžale (SLO)

Group 5: Seeded vs. Unseeded
Sporting Clube de Portugal (POR) RC Strasbourg (FRA)
FC Lokomotiv Moskva (RUS) Halmstads BK (SWE)
Middlesbrough FC (ENG) Xanthi FC (GRE)
Grazer AK (AUT) SK Brann (NOR)
US Città di Palermo (ITA) Anorthosis Famagusta FC (CYP)

Group 6; Seeded vs.Unseeded
AS Roma (ITA) Aris Thessaloniki FC (GRE)
Besiktas JK (TUR) PFC Litex Lovech (BUL)
FK Partizan (SCG) FC Baník Ostrava (CZE)
SC Heerenveen (NED) Maccabi Petach-Tikva FC (ISR)
KRC Genk (BEL) Malmö FF (SWE)

Group 7: Seeded vs. Unseeded
AS Monaco FC (FRA) FK Teplice (CZE)
Hertha BSC Berlin (GER) Willem II (NED)
RCD Espanyol (ESP) Viking FK (NOR)
FK Austria Wien (AUT) FC Zürich (SUI)
Brøndby IF (DEN) APOEL FC (CYP)

Group 8: Seeded vs. Unseeded
Galatasaray SK (TUR) FC Zenit St. Petersburg (RUS)
AEK Athens FC (GRE) Debreceni VSC (HUN)
RC Lens (FRA) Groclin Grodzisk Wielkopolski (POL)
FC Shakhtar Donetsk (UKR) Tromsø IL (NOR)
Bolton Wanderers FC (ENG) PFC Lokomotiv Plovdiv (BUL)

Re: Uefa Cup Round 1
Author: SHEV Date: 26-08-2005, 10:30	I want Shakhtar-Zenith

Re: Uefa Cup Round 1
Author: vakho Date: 26-08-2005, 10:33	The holder CSKA Rus may face CSKA Bul

Re: Uefa Cup Round 1
Author: LBlanco Date: 26-08-2005, 10:44	UEFA did not give holders CSKA Moskva top position in seeding list. Holders used to have it, at least in CL. But neither Liverpool had it yesterday nor CSKA has it today. Mistake or intentional? If CSKA proceeds to group stage, which pot will they be in?

Re: Uefa Cup Round 1
Author: SHEV Date: 26-08-2005, 10:48	This is unbelieavable - this topic made some ukrainian media give false information: http://dynamomania.com/news.php?p=message&id=15094 They took groups from this topic =)

Re: Uefa Cup Round 1
Author: Dneprchemp Date: 26-08-2005, 10:50	I think it will be some interesting matches on this stage!

Re: Uefa Cup Round 1
Author: ignjat63 Date: 26-08-2005, 10:57 Edited by: ignjat63 at: 26-08-2005, 11:00	Crvena Zvezda would lose against POR or BEL, has 50-50 chances against BUL and should win against DEN and FIN. Full of hope, I am looking forward to finnish opponent. Partizan though will have a tough time against any of the five because of their famous innability to score. They might easily outplay their opponent but still lose in the end.

Re: Uefa Cup Round 1
Author: walter-wade Date: 26-08-2005, 11:06	partizan's chance against Banik Ostrava is nearly 0, they can eliminate the 4 remaining teams aswell

Re: Uefa Cup Round 1
Author: AnorthosisFC Date: 26-08-2005, 11:14	As an Anorthosis fan i prefer Grazer for our opponent in 1st round!

Re: Uefa Cup Round 1
Author: spoonman Date: 26-08-2005, 11:23	By the way: The Austrian town is called Graz, not Grazer. "Grazer AK" means "Athletic Sports Club of Graz". It's the same with "Hamburger SV" who are, of course, from Hamburg.