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| Author: andjelic
Date: 19-03-2005, 23:15 | Do you now about Marakana (57.000) stadium Crvena Zvezda. frist stadiom on Balkan. |
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| Author: macaskil
Date: 20-03-2005, 11:58 | I suppose the "best" stadium will be one of the new ones, such as the Millenium stadium (Cardiff) or the Amsterdam Arena. Anyone know the largest capacity stadium in Europe now? Looking at attendances in Champions League games I suspect it might be Dynamo Kiev, the only stadium to have crowds of more than 80,000 in recent years. Until 1972 it was Hampden Park in Glasgow (135,000) and after that (capacity was limited to 100,000 due to safety concerns) was I think the Bernabeu (125,000) or Katowice (120,000) but I don't think there is any stadium in Europe today with 100,000 or bigger capacity, due to higher safety standards and all-seater stadiums. Just as an aside, Hampden still holds various record attendances: International: 150,000 (Scotland-England 1937 (3-1) and 1939 (1-2)) World Cup qualifier: 135,000 (Scotland-England 1950 (0-1) and 1954 (2-4)) Friendly international: 125,000 (Scotland-France 1950 (2-0)) Cup Final: 147,000 (Celtic-Aberdeen 1937 (2-1)) Cup Semi Final: 144,000 (Rangers-Hibernian 1948 (1-0)) League Cup Final: 135,000 (Rangers-Aberdeen 1946 (2-3)) League Cup Semi Final: 120,000 (Rangers-Hibernian 1947 (3-1)) Friendly Club match: 105,000 (Rangers-Eintracht Frankfurt 1961 (2-3)) European Champions Final: 127,000 (Real Madrid-Eintracht Frankfurt 1960 (7-3)) European Champions Semi Final: 136,000 (Celtic-Leeds 1970 (2-1)) All of these are European records, except perhaps the friendly club match which might have been beaten by Real Madrid on a few occasions at the Bernabeu. Hampden holds no significant records in league matches, as the home team is Queen's Park, which has never had a large fan base and now has an average attendance of 1,000 or less. Glasgow also holds a record for 2 games in the same city on the same day - 224,000 in 1948 - again I think this is a European record unless someone knows better! In 1972 Glasgow hosted 2 European semifinals on the same day with a total attendance of 155,000 - again this may be a record unless.... |
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| Author: sr_sofisticacao
Date: 20-03-2005, 20:05 | Wow... Can't even imagine how it would be like to have 150 000 people in 1937 watching a Scotland - England match! One of those things you wish you had a time machine! :D |
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| Author: macaskil
Date: 20-03-2005, 23:06 Edited by: macaskil at: 20-03-2005, 23:10 | If I had a time machine I'd like to go back to the Maracana for the Uruguay-Brazil world cup decider of 1950 - 200,000 saw that one! (mind you 250,000 used to watch chariot races at the Circus Maximus in ancient Rome) The 1937 game was a thriller, with England 1-0 up at half time but eventually swept aside by Scotland 3-1. The English team included Stanley Matthews and Raich Carter. Bob McPhail of Rangers scored twice for Scotland. And yet - Wales won the British Championship! The following week 147.000 saw the Aberdeen-Celtic Scottish Cup Final. |
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| Author: ralfinho
Date: 20-03-2005, 23:09 | andjelic, do you know the AllianzArena, the new stadium of Munich?  |
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| Author: christoph2136
Date: 24-03-2005, 17:14 | @ macaskil According to some sources, Circus Maximus had a crowd capacity of 380.000! |
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| Author: AlanK
Date: 24-03-2005, 18:48 | Various sources seem to agree that the largest current official capacity of any stadium in Europe is that of Barcelona's Nou Camp: 98,600 or thereabouts. As to largest crowds: I'm told that they once packed 149,000 into the Berbabeu, but this may be apocryphal. I attended a Real Madrid-Atletico de Madrid game in October or November of 1967 which 125,000 were claimed to have attended, although "claimed" attendance is often suspect. In any case, the crowd noise was said to have been audible in Guadalajara, about 70 km. from the stadium. It makes a good story, anyway . . . |
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| Author: OhioUefaFan
Date: 24-03-2005, 20:41 Edited by: OhioUefaFan at: 24-03-2005, 20:44 | I don't understand why some of the clubs haven't tried to build stadiums that break the 100K mark, especially the big clubs. I'm not an expert on the financial situation of the game, but is it a case of supply and demand? Would the clubs rather play in a 40K-50K stadium and have ticket demands nearly double that to drive up prices, or would they try to fill that demand by building a larger stadium? I know this might be an apples/oranges comparison, but that is one thing the US has in abundance...many stadia above the 90000 mark in capacity, and nearly every Saturday in the fall they are filled! For the curious... Michigan Stadium, Michigan, 107501 Beaver Stadium, Pennsylvania State, 107282 Neyland Stadium, Tennessee, 104079 Ohio Stadium, Ohio State, 101568 Rose Bowl, Univ of California, 95000 (site of 1994 WC Final) Memorial Coliseum, Univ of Southern California, 92000 (site of 1984 Olympics) Sanford Stadium, Georgia, 92000 Tiger Stadium, Louisiana State, 91600--expanding by another 3000 for this season |
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| Author: hamilton1978
Date: 30-03-2005, 01:30 | Ohio for the tiger stadium, why only expanding the stadium by the 3000 seats?...possibly another 10,000 seats would be better?........but am sure theres a reason |
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| Author: OhioUefaFan
Date: 02-04-2005, 01:55 | I think it is 3000 because they are all luxury seats, costing between $1950 and $2750 per seat for a seat license, then the person holding the license still has to buy the tickets--similar to the Club Wembley scheme. |
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| Author: Omero
Date: 02-04-2005, 18:15 Edited by: Omero at: 02-04-2005, 18:27 | After being in so many stadiums in europe: Parc de princesse (PSG - Lille 2:2), San Siro (Inter - Juve 2:2), Olimpico di Roma (Lazio - Roma 1:5; Roma - Galatasaray 1:1), Empoli's stadi (Empoli - Juve 0:1) , Amsterdam Arena (Turkey - Portugal 0:2; Holland - Italia 0:0 2:4 pk), Stade Louis in Brussels (France - Portugal 2:1), De Kuip (E 2000, The Final), Highbury (Arsenal - West Ham 4:1; Arsenal - Man U 1:2; Arsenal Bradford 2:0; Arsenal - Liverpool 1:2), Anfield (Liverpool - Arsenal 2:0), Stamford Bridge (Chelsea - Aston Villa 3:0), Vicaridge Road (Watford - Aston Villa 1:1) , Q.P.R'S Stadium (Q.P.R - Portsmouth 1:1), THE Dell (Sutton - Chelsea 0:0)_, selherst Park (Wimbledon - Newcastle 1:1), Wembley, Jose Alvelade (France - Greece 0:1; Holland - Portugal 1:2), Stadion da Luz (E 2004 - England - Portugal, The Final), stadio Dragao (Greece - Chech Rep, Denmark - Chech Rep) and Algarve Stadion (Sweeden - Holland) I came to the conclusion that the best i have ever been is the Meazza in Milan (By the way my team in europe is Inter...hope to be at ATA Turk this May). |
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| Author: eoinh
Date: 03-04-2005, 12:18 Edited by: eoinh at: 03-04-2005, 12:26 | The best stadium i have been to would be the Amsterdam Areana. At home the three best stadiums are (all much smaller than Ajaxs obviously) Tolka Park in Dublin, Turners Cross in Cork and Flancare Park in Longford. The Longford stadium deserves a note because Longford itself is a small town and large parts of the stadium were built by the fans themselves. They did a lot of the work themselves without too much money. A rare quality in football nowadays and something to be applauded. Plus Longford people are really friendly -its a pleasure going to a match there. I was among the Longford fans at the last match up there when my team was playing them. No hint of malice just a friendly joke and chat. |
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| Author: andjelic
Date: 03-04-2005, 12:51 | Did you look match Serbia and Monte Negro VS Espania. Matc play on stadium Marakana and come 49.000 visitors? What you think??? |
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| Author: Dneprchemp
Date: 03-04-2005, 13:08 | Best is Schalke's stadion |
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| Author: idemaa
Date: 03-04-2005, 19:28 | Hmm I guess the reason why they do not expand the stadiums to record sizes is because there isnt a worse sight than a half empty stadium..... |
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| Author: JPV
Date: 06-04-2005, 20:11 | and maybe because safety standards in Europe are higher than in the USA. Anyway, going beyond 120000 all-seated stadium wouldn't provide a good view for all people, i guess... and would provide a lot of safety problems (exits, ...) |
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| Author: aziz
Date: 07-04-2005, 13:41 | how much is schalkes arena? |
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| Author: macaskil
Date: 07-04-2005, 14:15 | 61,524. It appears 80,000 is the largest practical size for modern all-seater stadia. In a way I'm sorry to see the end of the old fashioned terraces and the crowds of 100,000 or more - but when I remember that it was impossible to reach the toilets, and a lot of beer was being drunk..... |
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| Author: OhioUefaFan
Date: 08-04-2005, 16:02 | How are the safety regulations different in Europe than America? |
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| Author: OhioUefaFan
Date: 13-04-2005, 04:52 | Now seems an appropriate time to bring this topic to the front since the last question went unanswered. How could Inter, the home team on the day, let flares into the stadium? I understand this is tradition; I've seen flares in the stands on highlights here on Fox Soccer Channel in America, and not just in Italy...but aren't there UEFA guidelines that would supercede such things? Considering how they can come in and put up all their signage, advertisings, control the media rights, and other things, implementing security procedures above and beyond what Serie A clubs hold themselves to wouldn't seem to be--to me at least--a problem. Watching here in the States, after the Chelsea-Bayern game, they (ESPN) showed footage of the flare throwing and the commentator for the network said that Inter should face a European ban. Do any of you believe that Inter will be locked out of Europe? Will AC Milan bear any responsibility? Does it all depend on the disciplinary report? |
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| Author: Malko
Date: 13-04-2005, 11:15 | For me, the best Stadium is The Stade de France in Paris, now Called Stade de France Paris 1012. (80 000). Many people say, the most impressive stadium ist Westfalenstadion in Dortmund. (83 000, but most not seated) |
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| Author: ralfinho
Date: 13-04-2005, 14:10 | Only one stand of the Westfalenstadion is non-seaters. About 10.000 spectators. |
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| Author: naaba
Date: 13-04-2005, 14:33 | FC Barcelona vs Standard de Liège Final Cup Winners Cup 1982 in Nou Camp - 100 000 |
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| Author: Malko
Date: 13-04-2005, 17:41 | I think in the Westfalenstadion, there is the huge "wall-stand behind one goal that ist not seated in Bundesliga-Games. And then much more than 10 000 take place in it. |
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| Author: Malko
Date: 13-04-2005, 17:43 | What about Prague? I think there was once the biggest footballstadium in Europe, no? |