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Domestic Cup Losers (and winners)
Author: maciosgh
Date: 22-11-2004, 14:40
I tried real hard to get a solution but didn't...

Why, according to FORZA-AZ rankings Tromso is qualified for UEFA Cup from Norway, and according to DUNCAN's stats it is Lyn ????? (in my opinion since Lyn lost the cup to Brann next team from the table is qualified)

That leads to the main question - if you can help me, please list all probable outcomes of the Cup Final results - I mean when do you qualify the next team in the league and when it is the Cup Loser that goes straight to European football??

for example
CL - CL next team from the table whatever the result (CL means already qualified to the CL from the league)
UE - none
and so on...

Re: Domestic Cup Losers (and winners)
Author: Ricardo
Date: 22-11-2004, 14:54
According to Bert's main site:

If the cup winner of a country also qualifies for the Champions League, then the losing team of the cup final is qualified for the UEFA Cup. If both cup finalists qualify for the Champions League, then an additional team based on league position will be qualified. However, the losing cup finalist does not get the UEFA Cup cup-winner spot, but is treated as a league entrant. The 'cup- winner' spot of that country goes to the team with the highest league position. In some countries (England and France) the last league entrant position is given to the League Cup Winner.

So I guess Forza-AZ is right about this. Brann takes the Cupwinner-spot and Tromso the league-spot

to answer your list:
CL-CL: next in league
CL-UE: next in league
CL-none: none takes spot
UE-UE: next in league
UE-none: if UE wins: next in league (NOR situation)

I have to admit I am not 100% sure about this.

Re: Domestic Cup Losers (and winners)
Author: maciosgh
Date: 22-11-2004, 15:07
The what about Armenian League - the cup final was Pyunik-Banants and Banants lost...But both guys (Forza and Duncan) put Ararat as the UEFA entrant (Ararat was 3rd and Banants was 4th in the league).

According to Bert's site it should be Banants that goes through..

??????????????????????????? (I need a big reset)))

Re: Domestic Cup Losers (and winners)
Author: Ricardo
Date: 22-11-2004, 15:09
I made that same mistake: The Armenian Cup is still to start! THey play the cupsystem from March till May. So there is no winner known yet, so nr3 of the lague is put in currently: Ararat

Re: Domestic Cup Losers (and winners)
Author: maciosgh
Date: 22-11-2004, 15:14
THX a lot!!!That changes everything