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Author: visitor
Date: 09-09-2004, 23:14

I don't understand why uefa give the score according the result after 120 minutes. Take for instance Haifa against Rosenborg. The first leg in Norway ended 1-2 to the local. The second ended 2-1 to haifa, went to overtime and Rosenborg won 3-2. According to this site, haifa didn't got a point, Rosenborg did. If it was vice versa - haifa winning the first leg at home 2-1, losing away 1-2 and losing in overtime, Haifa would get a point they deserve.
So why uefa is acting like that?

Author: Nick
Date: 10-09-2004, 07:43

It's not that UEFA wants to discriminate Haifa

This rule has been in force for at least several years. 2 Seasons ago Litex won in Athens against Panathinaikos 1:0 after regular time and lost 1:2 after extra time. So no points to Litex.
Same with CSKA - Omonia this season: 1:1 after 90 min, 3:1 after extra time and no points to Omonia.
I guess the idea is that extra time is part of the regular match. That's the small advantage for playing the second leg at home.
Penatly shootout however is not counted toward the final result.

Re: result in 90 and 120 minutes
Author: krdeluxe Date: 10-09-2004, 09:01	@Nick, you said the getting points for the result after 120 minutes (and not after 90 min) is a small advantage for the team playing the second leg at home. But it's an advantage for the team which won the first leg. And because most of the time the home team wins the first leg (in a clash between two equal teams), it's a disadvantage for the team playing the second leg at home.

Author: anita
Date: 10-09-2004, 11:20

I think all ambitious teams feel an advantage of playing at home in the second match. And an extra advantage is that they may have 120 minutes at home deciding the outcome. Even the eventual shoot-out should normally be an advantage for the home team.

I haven't looked at any results in e.g. EC, looking at which team going through after extra time (and shoot-outs), the home or away team. It ought to be the home team, but maybe that is an deceptive imagination?

Re: result in 90 and 120 minutes
Author: bert.kassies Date: 10-09-2004, 14:12	The penalty shoot-out is used since 1970. There have been 139 penalty shoot-outs in total in European Cup football (not counting the shoot-outs in single-match finals). The home team won 81 times (58%) en the away team 58 times (42%).

Re: result in 90 and 120 minutes
Author: anita Date: 10-09-2004, 15:11	thx, bert, and I "imagine" that if a match is decided after extra time, the percentage ought to be (considerably?) higher for the home team.

Re: result in 90 and 120 minutes
Author: bert.kassies Date: 10-09-2004, 15:45	anita, I think so. But I can't give you any evidence. My database does not contain any specific information about extra time.

Re: result in 90 and 120 minutes
Author: mjwillan Date: 10-09-2004, 16:53	I think extra time results would be affected by the away goals rule as any scoring draw would send the away team through, so I would expect the advantage to the home team would be less than for penalties.

Author: anita
Date: 10-09-2004, 19:01

mjwillan, I see your point. To me this rule (with points) could happen after 90 minutes or 120 minutes. Both make sense and can be argued logically. UEFA have decided to give the points after 120 minutes. OK for me, and I don't think any unjustice is done to anyone.

Well, as a matter of fact I would have been pleased with almost whatever rule UEFA applied, as long as the rules were consistent and UEFA distributed the information to the public: