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Maccabi Tel-Aviv
Author: Omero Date: 27-08-2004, 01:51	for there first time ever, maccabi tel aviv from israel will be at the uefa champions league. i think that this year the champions league, is the hardest ever... what do you think about the group she got? Bayern Munchen; Juventus and Ajax... can she do anything? score a goal? steal a point?

Re: Maccabi Tel-Aviv
Author: blancjb15 Date: 27-08-2004, 01:53	IMHO they can steal 5 points. 3 points at home against Ajax, and 2 points with 2 draws at home against both other teams. But maybe I'm too optimistic :-)

Re: Maccabi Tel-Aviv
Author: Omero Date: 27-08-2004, 01:55	You'r way optimistic brother... thigt now i don't think that maccabi can do somthing in the c.l. but if we will bring 2 to 5 players we would be able to do maybe small thing...with the hepl of our crowd and good day of maccabi (with 2q5 players, anything can happen).

Re: Maccabi Tel-Aviv
Author: blancjb15 Date: 27-08-2004, 01:59	Did you expect two years ago that Maccabi Haifa would score 6 points in CL? I admit that Maccabi Haifa seem to me a bit stronger than Maccabi TA. But I'm not an expert in Israeli football.

Re: Maccabi Tel-Aviv
Author: Omero Date: 27-08-2004, 02:04	well i am, beacose i live there. and yes maccabi haifa is better than maccabi even now, and maccabi need more players. but i think that it's wrong to say if i expected for haifa to win beacose haifs's group is much easier than maccabi's group today, for sure...

Re: Maccabi Tel-Aviv
Author: blancjb15 Date: 27-08-2004, 02:10	So it would have been better if Haifa had qualified for CL and Tel-Aviv had gone to UEFA Cup :-)

Re: Maccabi Tel-Aviv
Author: Omero Date: 27-08-2004, 02:28	i don't know beacose maccabi wasn't far from get into group e or f...instad we got group c... but it's for the best beacose: 1.we're underdog, we have nothing to lose 2.no one would be surprise if we will have 6 losses. Good Luck for maccabi.

Re: Maccabi Tel-Aviv
Author: blancjb15 Date: 27-08-2004, 02:31	Maccabi TA footballers should inspire themselves from their mates from basketball section . Anywany, good luck Maccabi TA.

Author: nesh
Date: 27-08-2004, 05:06

No points to Maccabi in CL sorry
maccabi without buying new players no chance to gain points in CL
may be Maccabi TA are the youngest team in CL included Ayax
Maccabi TA with 9 players less from 20 and 8 players are 21-22 years old only ....
i think it was mircle to Maccabi TA for being here ..... but mircle happend
any way regards to the kids from Maccabi TA for that .
yes i agreed Haifa is better from TEL AVIV last years but TA looks much more hungry

and dont forget that Maccabi Tel Aviv is the biggest team ever in israel (not like Rosenborg more like Celtic

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Re: Maccabi Tel-Aviv
Author: fbfan Date: 27-08-2004, 05:34	Maccabi is going to sign either Emile Embembe of Cameroon or Racing Santander's Israeli international midfielder, Omri Afek.

Re: Maccabi Tel-Aviv
Author: SHEV Date: 27-08-2004, 11:14	It's very rare ocassions when team gets no points in group. I think they will get 3-6 points.

Re: Maccabi Tel-Aviv
Author: Omero Date: 27-08-2004, 12:12	FBFAN: Let me correct you, maccabi are going to sign Embembe and Omri Afek, and not one of them if he will release from Racing Santander...Embembe is striker and Afek is a Striker and a Winger. and they are gig to sign Shuki Nagar as a left Defender, and might bring even Elad Boonfeld.

Re: Maccabi Tel-Aviv
Author: nesh Date: 27-08-2004, 15:51	Maccabi very strong buyer in newspaper but they just talking .mean while 4 players was sign other team so lets see which player will sign

Re: Maccabi Tel-Aviv
Author: _GrimReaper Date: 27-08-2004, 21:56	I don't think tham maccaby have any chances against those teams.But I think that they should play their home matches in Sofia, Bulgaria!!!

Author: vladyslavo
Date: 27-08-2004, 22:25

You are right blancjb15. I was in the same opinion as you. Maccabi TA team is just weak! If they are not going to purchase any players, the will finish places 3-4 in the Israeli league.

Maccabi Haifa is a completely different class and legitimate CL team (eventhough I think they wouldn't have got more than 3 point in Maccabi-TA's group), and if nothing special happens, they will finish as Israeli's chapmion this year once again, and get even more strong.

* I support none of these 2.

Author: MichaelCollins
Date: 28-08-2004, 02:48

There is nothing wrong with being the underdog. Btw, didnt Porto come from Pot 3? I checked, first seeds were Real MAdrid and second seeds Marsielle. So if the third seeds can do it, albeit seeds the quality of Porto, then anyone can lol.

Actually I am writing off Tel Aviv. I think they have no chance of qualification, but will have a vital say in who (Ajax, Juve, Bayern) does not make it out of the group. And might even sneak the UEFA Cup place.

Re: Maccabi Tel-Aviv
Author: LevskiFan Date: 28-08-2004, 02:55	I think that Maccabi will make the big surprise in the group!Nobody expects anything from them, but I think that they will finish at least 3rd and qualify for the UC,or even qualify for the next stage!They can beat Ajax,and Juve at home!

Re: Maccabi Tel-Aviv
Author: blancjb15 Date: 28-08-2004, 02:56	I agree with you. They'll have no pressure.

Re: Maccabi Tel-Aviv
Author: Omero Date: 28-08-2004, 12:58	Still our chances are somthing like 0 to 5 precent... but now there is a new probleme, when the match against bayern will be? we can't play at the 15, in 20:45, beacose it's a holiday here, new year. Uefa refused to move the game to the 14...and the possibilities are: 1.we will play at the original time... or 2.we will play at the 15 in 16:00 pm...it's the best i think.

Re: Maccabi Tel-Aviv
Author: leshij Date: 28-08-2004, 13:48	Bayern will be loath to play at 16:00 in Israel - too hot. Also, there will be problems with TV guys - too early to command a large enough audience. Why didn't UEFA agree to move it one day forward? Bayern had no problem with it.

Author: mark
Date: 28-08-2004, 14:28

Maccabi had known about the schedule for at least 3 months so why do we get all the whining right now? If they don't like the schedule, they should have not participated the QR.

16:00 is not an acceptable hour to play football, for Bayern and also for Maccabi. Anyone who suggest to play in this hour should try to go out and do some joging for 4km and then he will understand why. And ofcourse for germany and most of europe it will be in the middle of the working day, really unacceptable.

I fail to understand the reason why the game should be moved at all. 21:45 is late enough for people to finish thier dinner and come to the stadium. And most of the fans are in any case young people which either a) will find this as a good excuse to miss the dinner, or b) just wait the dinner to be over in order to join their friends and go party. In addition a CL game at one of the most boring TV nights in the whole year will make a very good rating.

Author: anita
Date: 28-08-2004, 14:32

Lot of pessimistic crap about Maccabi. Little Rosenborg advanced to the quarter finals in 1996/97 on behalf of Milan, and won their group in 1999/00. Rosenborgs budget at that time was about 2-3 mill �, the same as one player on opponents team earned in one season. And we had no merits. So stop whining and play football. Like shev mentions, very, very rarely any team get nil points. Iceland-Italy 2-0, Juventus Djurgarden 2-2. Last year Ajax advanced to CL group stage by beating GAK 1-1 and 2-1. What are you afraid of?

Re: Maccabi Tel-Aviv
Author: anita Date: 28-08-2004, 18:30	And BayernM losing 4-1 to Leverkusen. No Maccabi fans, dont talk of how few points you may get, aim for advancement

Re: Maccabi Tel-Aviv
Author: vladyslavo Date: 28-08-2004, 18:50	Mark, according to the Israeli FA they had inforned UEFA in june, that if an Israeli team gets into the CL, it will be "problematic" (as they said) to host the first game. Apparently they informed, and nothing more.

Re: Maccabi Tel-Aviv
Author: JPV Date: 28-08-2004, 22:49	UEFA doesn't have to accept this, do they "we can't play at the 15, in 20:45, beacose it's a holiday here, new year. " i don't see why you can't play at the 15th? If it would be some kind of religious thing, i'd agree... but New Year is just a day, nothing more. People do sports at New Year (1 January) here too...

Author: Omero
Date: 29-08-2004, 01:45

that what you don't understand, it is religis here, for the jewish people new year, is one of the conservative holiday's int the year...it's not like hanuka...it's very very religis holiday...

I prefere to play at 16:00 that good for maccabi. anita, you can't compare between maccabi and rosenbourg of that year, we're much much weaker, and without any expirience...our chances are somthing like 0 to 5...we must get stronger and i can't see how we do it in 2 days...2 players that if they would come it would be great t maccabi doesn't come so hope? my hope is not to make shames in the champions league, beacose maccabi is goinh to be the worst team ever to play at this competition...

Re: Maccabi Tel-Aviv
Author: Omero Date: 29-08-2004, 02:03	people who enterd uefa.com and saw the ugly symbole that they put us on the club's page in the section of the champions league. this is our symbole, little better. http://www.uefa.com/ImagesContent/Competition/Clubs/Logos/70X70/57477.gif

Re: Maccabi Tel-Aviv
Author: anita Date: 29-08-2004, 16:46	Omero, Rosenborg knocked out Milan on San Siro with just home-bred players their second season in CL. So cheer up!

Re: Maccabi Tel-Aviv
Author: Omero Date: 29-08-2004, 18:07	If you'r saying...i guess that only believe is left... who were the other 2 teams at the group of rosenbourg?

Re: Maccabi Tel-Aviv
Author: Omero Date: 30-08-2004, 22:19	Maccabi tel aviv has signed players: Left Defender, 30 years old, shuki nagar Midfielder, 22 years old, Elad Boonfeld Forward, 22 years old, Emile Embemba from vitesse. theat's good beacose we need deep squad for the season. hope for good : )

Re: Maccabi Tel-Aviv
Author: anita Date: 30-08-2004, 22:43	Omero, CL 96/97, other teams were Porto and G�teborg. And in 99/00 Rosenborg won their CL-group ahead of Feyenoord, Dortmund and Boavista. And Rosenborgs budgets were - and still are - ridiculously low, but has increased gradually (This year app. 7-8 mill �) compared to most opponents (all?).

Re: Maccabi Tel-Aviv
Author: Omero Date: 30-08-2004, 23:50	but you realy cant compare between those teams, and the teams that in maccabi's group...

Author: anita
Date: 31-08-2004, 00:04

Yes, Rosenborgs group have the probable weakest second-seeded team. PSV and Ajax are comparable. Arsenal maybe stronger than BayernM, but forget them. A natural goal for Maccabi must be to aim for third place. Well, of course, no point in aiming for fourth

And Juventus, well, in 98/99 they were in group with Rosenborg. Won the last match 2-0 against Rosenborg, thus winning the group. If Rosenborg had managed a draw, Rosenborg would have won the group with Gala on second and Juve and Bilbao out of it. The margins are not bigger.

Norway is meeting Italy in Palermo next week-end in WCQ-match. Maybe we can shake them up a little for you (Juve-Maccabi 28.09)

Author: Omero
Date: 31-08-2004, 00:37

Maccabi Tel Aviv.

Maccabi tel aviv is the biggest team in israel. the club has won the most championships (14, and 19 before the country esteblished) and domnestic cups (15). the club has even 2 trohpies outside of israel, asian cups (69, 71).

the biggest player, ever to play for this club is Avi Nimni, who plays today in beiter after the club's owner, threw him from the team (the fans will never forgive! he'll be back!) beacose of money. maccabi's youth is the best in the country, and maccabi allways had players who came from it to europe, like avi nimni who played in derby and athetico madrid, Avi Choen who played in liverpool, Giyora Shpigel who played in france, and the newcomer of the israeli family in europe, the best defender here, Tal Ben Haim, who plays at Bolton (21 years old).

Maccabi was never good in the european competitions (opposite of the league) and before the qualifying this year, they were very close to the champions league twice. in 95/6 they played in the 3rd round of the UEFA champions league against Grasshopers. in the first game away they draw 1:1, but here mistake of our biggest goalkeeper ever (Alexander Ubarov, former Ussr national team) sent the swiss to the gruop stage, and non less than 20 shots! to the goal were not enough.

One year later, maccabi played against Fenerbache. here maccabi lost 1:0, after fenerbache's goalkeeper was fantastic. in the secone game, we draw 1:1, and we're very close again to the uefa champions league, after our executive manager than a player, Eli driks shoted to the post, and Avi nimni took the ball in the center field, and passed no less than 6 players just to be beaten by the keeper. our coach today, Nir Klinger, played at the games against the swiss and the turkish.

after that year maccabi waited 7 years to her championship, and got it in 2002/3 (the year that haifa was in the CL) after a fight between the coach and nimni, the star enterd in the last three games and scored 6 goals (and that's from a player eho didnt played in the line-up for 6 months! and finished as our top scorer) including a comeback in half time at jerusalem against beitar, when every body tought that the championship is gone, and bringed us from 2:1 to 3:2 alone.

In the Uefa cup maccabi's best is 2nd round after knocking Dinamo Zagrev and Levadia tallin, the teams lost to JC Roda (5:3 on agg, after losing in holland 4:1 and winning here 2:1).

the squad that won the championship is not the same. Nimni is not here, Andreas Prohonnkovs who played at the last euro with latvia we're sold to Dinamo Moscow, Our best defender tal ben haim move to bolton (up until now i don't understand why)
and today we're having 6 diffrent playes who didn't played than + couple of youngsters who came into the first team like liran choen.

Our Good players are:
At goalie:
Liran Strauber - 29 years old player, who's good at goal but doing sometimes stupid things.
At the defens:
the two defenders central, Avi strool (24) and Marcio Giovanini (25) of brazil. the first has has changed himself 180 deegris and today is one of our best players. the brazilian is maybe lack of fast, but has a wonderfull head game.
our lefa back, Jhon Penstil (23) who played at Ghana's national team in the world championship under 21 in 2000 and in the last Olympic games in athens.
At miedfield:
Reuven Oved (21), Bruno Reyes (28), Tamir Choen (20), Liran Choen (21).
the first player, Oven is suppose to be the next big thing here in israel, and we all pray that this year it will happen. wonderfull player, wo's control with the ball is one's of the best i have ever seen.
Reyes from Brzail is a back miedfielder, very good one but he has is bad moments too.
Tamir Choes, the son of avi Choen, is a beck miedfilder too. very stron, good shots very good player.
Liran Choen (non related to tamir) is the man who brought us here, is very talented but lack of confidens sometimes. he scored the goal that brought us to the second place last year (he scored the last three goals in the league last year). scored the goal against HJK Helsinki, and scored against PAOK as well.

At forward:
Ishmael Addo (22) from ghana is very quik, with good shots and vision of the game, also in the ghana's national team.

another good players in our team:

Defens:
Salem Abu siam (21)
Miedfield:
Moshiko Mishaelof (21), Erez Messika (25), Oren Zeytuni (27), Eli Biton (22)
Striker:
Assaf Krispis (20)

and with our new signings: Eric M'bmba (forward) (22), Elad Boonfeld (miedfield) (24), Shuki nagar (left defender) (30), and might bring as well an Jewish argentinian striker, and another israeli player for the miedfield.

Hope i brought you somthing intresting, I hope that maccabi will represent herself and Israel with respect, that what important here in that tough group.

Author: mark
Date: 31-08-2004, 01:46

"the biggest player, ever to play for this club is Avi Nimni" LOLOL.

No disrespect, but Omero how old are you? Nimni at best is the most hyped player or maybe the biggest disapointment of israeli football. I can fill the whole space allocated for the forum just taking about him, but he is not worthy of that. The best players which played in Maccabi Tel Aviv are probably Alexander Obarov (A former Dinamo Kiev goal keeper), the two top scorers beni tabak and Viky Peretz, The goal keeper Boni Ginsburg (which played also in Rangers IIRC) and there are probaly others that I don't remember right now.

Re: Maccabi Tel-Aviv
Author: Omero Date: 31-08-2004, 02:16	i meant at his position...and if viki perez would played today he wouldn't be at the level he was than for sure...and yes nimni is dissampiotment,like zohar...but nimni was a leader, a player who was a miedfielder with wonderfull left leg. me? i'm 18.

Author: Omero
Date: 31-08-2004, 02:28

Boni Ginzbourg wasn't that good player like you'r saying...so he played in europe so what? even Kobi Nachtalier played...he was the goalkeeper of the national team that's true, but when he played, how many goalkeepers, israelis were? if there were good ones, he wouldn't played.

And yes, Avi Nimni was the greatest player ever to play for maccabi, the player with the most talent in the legs, who grew here, but in europe he dissapointed.

Author: nesh
Date: 31-08-2004, 08:26

If Avi nimny would stay in Maccabi and deffend on championship he could write is name on M.Tel Aviv history but he left to Jerusalem
any way that nimny play like shit in the begining that year i dont remember how many loses we got after 10 games he was heavy tiered and focused only himself
than he send to the beanch then Dago 22 years old carry the team on his back and he did it very well till he injoure then avi nimny come back from the beanch for the last season games , make him good to sit there he forgot how to fight when nimny want to run very defecoult to stop him so he did

but Nimny is one from the best players from Maccabi Tel Aviv EVER but not really from the Biggest players

Re: Maccabi Tel-Aviv
Author: Pawel18 Date: 31-08-2004, 14:43	Maccabi Tel Aviv is ver very weak team. They had very luck that played witch PAOK in 3 round Q. Maccabi is example for rules in Q Uefa CL are unfair. For example Wisla,Dinamo,Basel are more better than Hebrew but they had bad luck in draw.

Author: Omero
Date: 31-08-2004, 15:03

correct you'r self: Avi nimni never left maccabi to beitar, maccabi move him to beitar. and explain me this: how is it that every game until the game against beitar when maccabi we're down by 1:0 they never managed to make ti 1:1 and allways lost? Dego carried us? LOL that's a good one. he was good but the man who brought you the championship was nimni, i want to see dego entering the last 3 games of the season after not playing for 6 motnhs! and scoring in that period of time 6 crushial goals lie that, i don't think that baruch LEGO can do it. he and his father, and loni rewend the team last year.

Author: nesh
Date: 31-08-2004, 20:03

OK lets see what Nimny did that year
the season diveded to 3 parts

round 1-13 with Nimny leadership

round 14-27 from the game agains hiafa TA won 3=0
Nimny on beanch Dago the playmaker

rounds 28-33 Nimny comeback Dago injure

rounds 1-13 8 wins 0 draw 5 loses
round 14-27 10 wins 1 draw 2 loses
(Dago injure on rounds 27 TEL AVIV climbed first time to the top)
round 28-33 4 wins 1 draw 1 loses

now
the facts speek themself Nimny just distrub to dago to play insted to help him he just complain and demanded all the time the ball
Dago carried them to 1st place
nimny keep for us the place
Nimny was great then but baitar was very weak team and almost droping 2nd legue the other game was B.YEHODA they finished the legue and only come to drink coffee and the last team was Apoel PT same thing ,,,,

Author: Omero
Date: 31-08-2004, 22:25

You see? that's the probleme with fans like you, you remember the last things not the best things...like that nimni lead the team for 3 championships (and i don't care if dago played...dago even in 10 years won't be like him), 4 cups...but that's hard to remember...it's easy to remember the last year, do me a favorite stop saying stupid things...

ninmni played half! half of the games that all maccabi played and still he finished as the top scorer...remind me how many goals dago scored? how many from panelties that i can score...remind me who is baruch dago? just another player...finished player.

by the way the same season, maccabi with dago didn't beat maccabi pt at home, pt also finished the league what can you say about that?

shell i bring the statistics of avi nimni in 94/95/96? and 98/99? when baruch dago was in diper? (how old is he?) it's ok, i'm guessing that if you come to the games, you seat in gate 13, who's known for the short memory of the people who seats in it.

Re: Maccabi Tel-Aviv
Author: Omero Date: 31-08-2004, 22:27	but answer me this one: how is it that since the benhing of nimni every game that maccabi we're down by goal they lost? you don't really think that if nimni wasn't playing maccabi would have beat beitar do you?

Re: Maccabi Tel-Aviv
Author: Omero Date: 31-08-2004, 22:27	but Nimni dago is not the subject here, we can argue for 20 years...maccabi of today is the subject.

Author: nesh
Date: 01-09-2004, 04:27

Nimny is not the subject you mentioned him from the past
u said Nimny bring the last championship and it was Dago nimny just keep it for us

u said that Nimny is the biggest player i agreed only that he was good player but small person
he was shame his youth befor coming back from spain

Baitar lost 7 games at home from 13 for team that run to championship it must be easier to take points

the owner of maccabi is very succesful buisnessman ,
do you think he lost the moeney for nimny even pay him lots of money to leave without playing !!!! becouse he dont like him ??

just today was wroten in Ynet about the kidnup of another ex-player of baitar ARBAITMAN , the "soldierS" came to nimny(EL KAPONA) to asked him WHAT TO DO WITH THAT PLAYER ??!!!! THIS IS THE MAN....WHAT A PERSONALITY ,,,
Maccabi want to play in europe not in the wild middle east
BUT RELAX - macabi dont need symbol like that
no words about nimny's friend and his egent - TARGET number 1 of the police the leader of orgenize crime in israel !!!!

Author: Omero
Date: 01-09-2004, 06:23

Maccabi's boss is succesful? that's tells me everyting...where is the plant do you live in? this man as nothing to do with football or managment ateam...if his "succsesful" what is yaacov shachar? god?

if you say that, i really don't need to give posts about you'rs beacose they don't worth it. you really don't know shit about loni, and what happend in maccabi...you'r eating what the newspaper wants you to hear, if i we're telling you all the tings i know i would leave the country beacose of the shame.

dago never brougt no championship...what is kept you i the frst place? the man came from the bench after months of not playing and played like raul...w won you the game in teddi and the game against bnei yehuda, what is kept you? if not nimni, you don't win at teddi (and you know it) and bye bye championship...you said it yourself beitar is a lousi team, and so is maccabi, that's show you how big is aavi nimni as a player...but leave it you like to remember the bad things...

what happend in beitar just shows you the big influence of the man about people, i don't know how many things he did for fans, so stop shiting the forum with somthings that you really don't know.

Author: nesh
Date: 01-09-2004, 07:08

look at the numbers again and take any glases for sure
with 5 loses and 8 wins in the begining with Nimny we were in intertoto maybe ia not sure ... i just know to read numbers and facts or 24 points Nimny's period 31 points with Dago the both same numbers of games

this is the diferance between championship or to "fight" on intertoto

so to be correct without Nimny we cant keep the first place for 5 games that all ,to reach there we did it on Dago back alone as u say nimny not played long time

so Nimny did not play long time , he supose to training and to prepare himself any time for the club
they paid a lots of money for that

or the club must ask if mister Nimny would play for us

Re: Maccabi Tel-Aviv
Author: nesh Date: 01-09-2004, 07:24	You know sure write a book "my life with Nimny" it must be best seller

Re: Rosso couldn't play against Dnipro
Author: EarlofBug Date: 03-09-2004, 18:28	I read that Jiovani Rosso couldn't play against Dnipro, because of a torn ligament or something like that. That will bring down Haifa chances of getting past dnipro, but they should get past them anyway. A group like Maccabi Haifa shouldn't be based only on one player.

Author: nesh
Date: 05-09-2004, 05:05

Maccabi hifa's offensiv play very depended on Roso may be the best player in israeli legue
Roso with around 15 assists !!! ( WOW ) and 5-6 goals from 54 goals last season
maccabi haifa very experies team even her youngers but without Roso it will be much more deffecoult
i dont know Dinpero how they play this moment but they have better chance to pass
i hope Maccabi hiafa will find the way to score agains dinpero and pass next round

Author: Omero
Date: 05-09-2004, 22:45

Today the sale for the 3 games in the CL started here. the team sales season ticket to the three games...the managment decided to sell 40,000 tickets (1,000 to the honor stand and 4,000 can go to the visitors.) if the whole tickets will be sold, the managment will sell another 2,000 tickets (the stadium can hold up to 42,000). for the first day we sold 5,000 combined tickets for the three matches.

i can asume that for the game against bayern will come somthing between 10,000 to 30,000 beacose of the holiday but against juve and ajax the stadium will be full for sure, but i have a hunch that even against bayernit will be full.

the prices are:
for one game only for the western stand (better to view): 55 Euro.
for the eastern stands: 22 EURO
for the honnor stand: 220 EURO

for all three games:
western sides: 110 euro
eastern sides: 44 euro

it's a good deal beacose you can watch 3 games in a price of 2. i think that in all three games will be at least 30,000 maccabi fans.

Re: Maccabi Tel-Aviv
Author: Zuberbuler Date: 05-09-2004, 23:27	Wow!!It`s a lot of money.And if you add a TV money... It`s a budgets of all club in Bulgaria...

Re: Maccabi Tel-Aviv
Author: nesh Date: 06-09-2004, 08:50	Zober you dont know ? in israel we growing money on trees (i get only five trees ) and Zober try to buy a appartment here (Tel Aviv) may be you have to sell a team or two in bulgaria

Re: Maccabi Tel-Aviv
Author: Zuberbuler Date: 06-09-2004, 10:16	Yeah i know.I have very close friend in Israel and hi told me about the prices and everything.But i can`t imagine an israelian team to beat bulgarian.Maybe it`s a tradition,but i can`t remember any matches,except Levski and Hapoel Ramat-Gan (Levski Win)

Re: Maccabi Tel-Aviv
Author: Omero Date: 06-09-2004, 12:52	HAPOEL RAMAT GAN WAS A SHAME...they were from the second division and it rewend them beacose now they are over...they're in the 3rd league now and they are about to close the club. let me refresh you'r memory: qualifications for the EURO96 israel bulgaria 2:1, nimni scored. in bulgaria 1:0 to you, altough we played much better in that game.

Re: Maccabi Tel-Aviv
Author: Zuberbuler Date: 06-09-2004, 13:51	I don`t say that Bulgaria is much much better than Israel.I just say and it`s only my opinion,that i can`t think about teams from Israel as a realy good teams.BUT maybe i`m wrong,because the facts are different: team in CL,Israel is in 13 position in UEFA Country Ranking...

Re: Maccabi Tel-Aviv
Author: Omero Date: 06-09-2004, 19:00	Today we're sold 4,000 tickets, and GATE 11 (IT'S THE ULTRAS GATE) we're completly sold. 9,000 tickets have been sold until now, there is another 26,000 tickets.

Author: nesh
Date: 07-09-2004, 07:47

The Israeli national team was based on two stars (lots european experiece) that retired and leave us ( Revivo and Berkovitzs )
even with them we failure to reach WC and Euro 2004

now we changing our face with new players ,with no stars and we built new national team (they did 0-0 draw with france in paris!!!last sat.)

our teams are better from our national team in uefa cups and ISRAEL enjoy from great european season from HAPOEL TEL AVIV 3 years ago also from HIAFA

for now israel have only one "european" team MACCABI HIAFA
and one semi-european team MACCABI TEL AVIV
MACCABI TEL AVIV still get her respect becouse HIAFA and not becuose her self (but i hope it will change this year

)

the others teams just visitors in uefa cups for year or two (HAPOEL RAMAT GAN OR BNAI SAKNIN this year for example)

BUL-ISR 1-0 WC 98 PRE COMP
ISR-BUL 2-1 98
BUL-ISR 2-2 94
ISR-BUL 0-2 94
ISR-BUL 1-2 66 (WE WERE IN EUROPE B4 EUFA SEND US)
BUL-ISR 4-0 66

Re: Maccabi Tel-Aviv
Author: Omero Date: 07-09-2004, 14:27	berkovich (that's how you need to write it.) has never retired from the national team, it's just that avraham grant doesn't call him, i don't know the reason...

Re: Maccabi Tel-Aviv
Author: nesh Date: 08-09-2004, 04:57	Actoally if the Berkovich not invited this campian he is retierd by Grant but i belive that gGrsnt should call him for special task .... for a game or two

Re: Maccabi Tel-Aviv
Author: Omero Date: 13-09-2004, 23:00	altough that there were 35,000 out for sale, there will be tommorow between 10,000-25,000 beacose of the holiday...against ajax and juve it will be full stadium... GATE 11 (our ultras gate).

Author: Omero
Date: 16-09-2004, 13:12

With all the respect to Bayern Munchen...maccabi didn't deserve to lose that game, not like this, from a panelty that our best defender made, that's it's bot like him to make this...but that's probably the expirience that maccabi don't has in the CL and i hope that mistakes like this won't happen...

i don't believe that maccabi can make point from this group but, if maccabi will keep with the game of yesterday and will get better she's got a chance...

our first half was Exellent...the second was brolematic beacose in the start of it, our coach should have make changes...but he didn't do so, and again it's the expirience that maccabi doesnt have...

if maccabi won't get any point it's won't be so bad but, what is sure taht if in a few years time we will get again to the CL the group that will have won't be that strong as this, and we will take points, for sure.

Good Luck for Maccabi!