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| cl-ranking over the years | |
| Author: Lunaris
Date: 29-07-2004, 20:06 | hello all, i know that mayn of you like to speculate bout points clubs or countries gained, well i made a list of my own: starting with the introduction of the league system (1991/92), i calculated points for every team ever playing in group stage, there's 3 points per win and one for draw, all matches included from group stage to play-offs, finally it looks like this Team Land Teilnahmen Punkte Real Madrid E 8 197 Manchester United Eng 9 185 Barcelona E 8 162 Bayern München D 7 159 Juventus Turin I 8 143 AC Milan I 8 133 Porto P 9 113 Ajax Amsterdam Nl 6 97 Borussia Dortmund D 6 91 Arsenal London Eng 6 90 Valencia E 3 89 Deportivo La Coruna E 4 82 Dynamo Kiew Ukr 9 76 Galatasaray Tr 9 72 Panathinaikos Gr 6 65 Bayer Leverkusen D 5 64 Rosenborg Trondheim Nor 8 62 Spartak Moskau Rus 8 61 Sparta Prag Cz 6 59 Lazio Rom I 4 57 Olympique Lyon F 4 51 Paris St. Germain F 3 49 Inter Mailand I 3 49 Chelsea Eng 2 46 AS Monaco F 4 46 Olympiakos Piräus Gr 7 46 PSV Eindhoven Nl 7 46 Anderlecht B 6 45 Feyenoord Rotterdam Nl 5 35 Glasgow Rangers Sco 6 35 Olympique Marseille F 3 33 IFK Göteborg S 4 33 Liverpool Eng 2 30 AS Roma I 2 30 Leeds United Eng 1 24 Newcastle United Eng 2 23 Sturm Graz A 3 23 Club Brügge B 3 20 AJ Auxerre F 2 19 Boavista Porto P 2 18 Fiorentina I 1 17 Besiktas Istanbul Tr 3 17 Nantes F 1 16 FC Basel Ch 1 16 RC Lens F 2 16 Celtic Glasgow Sco 2 16 Steaua Bukarest Ro 3 16 Lokomotiv Moskau Rus 2 15 Atletico Madrid E 1 14 Girondins Bordeaux F 1 14 1. FC Kaiserslautern D 1 13 FC Nantes F 1 13 Vfb Stuttgart D 1 13 Dinamo Zagreb Cro 2 13 Sampdoria Genua I 1 11 Grashoppers Zürich Ch 2 11 Hertha BSC D 1 10 AEK Athen Gr 3 10 Roter Stern Belgrad Ser 1 9 Hajduk Split Cro 1 9 AC Parma I 1 9 Real Mallorca E 1 9 Real Sociedad E 1 9 Celta de Vigo E 1 9 Sporting Lissabon P 2 9 Legia Warschau Pl 1 8 Werder Bremen D 1 7 Maccabi Haifa Isr 1 7 Fenerbahce Tr 2 7 Benfica Lissabon P 1 6 Austria Salzburg A 1 6 Athletic Bilbao E 1 6 Schachtjor Donetzk Ukr 1 6 Hamburger SV D 1 6 Schalke 04 D 1 6 Lille OSC F 1 6 Ferencvaros H 1 5 HJK Helsinki Fin 1 5 Helsingborg IF S 1 5 Aab Aalborg Dk 1 4 Blackburn Rovers Eng 1 4 Widzew Lodz Pl 1 4 NK Maribor Slo 1 4 Heerenveen Nl 1 4 Racing Genk B 1 4 Bröndby Kopenhagen Dk 1 3 Molde FK Nor 1 3 Partizan Belgrad Ser 1 3 CSKA Moskau Rus 1 2 Rapid Wien A 1 2 Willem II Tilburg Nl 1 2 Lierse SK B 1 1 AIK Stockholm S 1 1 1. FC Kosice Sk 1 0 first row is appearances, second is points this season some teams make their tenth appearance (porto, man u if qualifying) |
| Re: cl-ranking over the years | |
| Author: Lunaris
Date: 29-07-2004, 20:08 | maybe this way it looks better Team Land Teilnahmen Punkte Real Madrid E 8 197 Manchester United Eng 9 185 Barcelona E 8 162 Bayern München D 7 159 Juventus Turin I 8 143 AC Milan I 8 133 Porto P 9 113 Ajax Amsterdam Nl 6 97 Borussia Dortmund D 6 91 Arsenal London Eng 6 90 Valencia E 3 89 Deportivo La Coruna E 4 82 Dynamo Kiew Ukr 9 76 Galatasaray Tr 9 72 Panathinaikos Gr 6 65 Bayer Leverkusen D 5 64 Rosenborg Trondheim Nor 8 62 Spartak Moskau Rus 8 61 Sparta Prag Cz 6 59 Lazio Rom I 4 57 Olympique Lyon F 4 51 Paris St. Germain F 3 49 Inter Mailand I 3 49 Chelsea Eng 2 46 AS Monaco F 4 46 Olympiakos Piräus Gr 7 46 PSV Eindhoven Nl 7 46 Anderlecht B 6 45 Feyenoord Rotterdam Nl 5 35 Glasgow Rangers Sco 6 35 Olympique Marseille F 3 33 IFK Göteborg S 4 33 Liverpool Eng 2 30 AS Roma I 2 30 Leeds United Eng 1 24 Newcastle United Eng 2 23 Sturm Graz A 3 23 Club Brügge B 3 20 AJ Auxerre F 2 19 Boavista Porto P 2 18 Fiorentina I 1 17 Besiktas Istanbul Tr 3 17 Nantes F 1 16 FC Basel Ch 1 16 RC Lens F 2 16 Celtic Glasgow Sco 2 16 Steaua Bukarest Ro 3 16 Lokomotiv Moskau Rus 2 15 Atletico Madrid E 1 14 Girondins Bordeaux F 1 14 1. FC Kaiserslautern D 1 13 FC Nantes F 1 13 Vfb Stuttgart D 1 13 Dinamo Zagreb Cro 2 13 Sampdoria Genua I 1 11 Grashoppers Zürich Ch 2 11 Hertha BSC D 1 10 AEK Athen Gr 3 10 Roter Stern Belgrad Ser 1 9 Hajduk Split Cro 1 9 AC Parma I 1 9 Real Mallorca E 1 9 Real Sociedad E 1 9 Celta de Vigo E 1 9 Sporting Lissabon P 2 9 Legia Warschau Pl 1 8 Werder Bremen D 1 7 Maccabi Haifa Isr 1 7 Fenerbahce Tr 2 7 Benfica Lissabon P 1 6 Austria Salzburg A 1 6 Athletic Bilbao E 1 6 Schachtjor Donetzk Ukr 1 6 Hamburger SV D 1 6 Schalke 04 D 1 6 Lille OSC F 1 6 Ferencvaros H 1 5 HJK Helsinki Fin 1 5 Helsingborg IF S 1 5 Aab Aalborg Dk 1 4 Blackburn Rovers Eng 1 4 Widzew Lodz Pl 1 4 NK Maribor Slo 1 4 Heerenveen Nl 1 4 Racing Genk B 1 4 Bröndby Kopenhagen Dk 1 3 Molde FK Nor 1 3 Partizan Belgrad Ser 1 3 CSKA Moskau Rus 1 2 Rapid Wien A 1 2 Willem II Tilburg Nl 1 2 Lierse SK B 1 1 AIK Stockholm S 1 1 1. FC Kosice Sk 1 0 |
| Re: cl-ranking over the years | |
| Author: Lunaris
Date: 29-07-2004, 20:09 | didn't work well, hope you can read it though |
| Re: cl-ranking over the years | |
| Author: anita
Date: 29-07-2004, 20:22 | So you have nothing better do to with your life, Lunaris?  Good work and interesting list. I thought Real Madrid had participated all these years, but obviously not more than Rosenborg. Though more points...... regards |
| Re: cl-ranking over the years | |
| Author: JPV
Date: 29-07-2004, 20:38 | Team Land Teilnahmen Punkte |
| Re: cl-ranking over the years | |
| Author: Lunaris
Date: 29-07-2004, 20:41 | well real didn't play much in the early seasons when cl just started (you know the times when it just had 2,4 or 6 groups, long ago i know :-)) well about rosenborg, they made a really impressive run and for a short time they had the record of being in group stage in following years, i don't know who holds now this record (maybe dynamo kiev, but i'm not sure) |
| Re: cl-ranking over the years | |
| Author: Lunaris
Date: 29-07-2004, 20:45 | thx JPV |
| Re: cl-ranking over the years | |
| Author: viulo
Date: 29-07-2004, 20:56 | Manchester United tied Rosenborg's record last year with eight consecutive presences in the group stage. They can go for the ninth if they get through QR3. Bayern and Olympiakos will make it eight this season, Real Madrid, D. Kiev and PSV will do the same if they qualify. Galatasaray also had seven consecutive presences, but failed to qualify this year. |
| Re: cl-ranking over the years | |
| Author: mzok
Date: 29-07-2004, 20:56 | nice list - had almost forgotten about HJK & Maribor |
| Re: cl-ranking over the years | |
| Author: Lunaris
Date: 29-07-2004, 23:08 | thx for the information, well another question: when will it happen, that no new team enters cl-group stage? |