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Author: pollymac
Date: 29-09-2003, 15:09
| A bit miffed that the original topic was relegated to the archive (no replies allowed), maybe something to do with the 'powers of darkness' post?
Anyway, its looking as if it will be between Scotland and Czech Republic. Not looking too clever for Scotland in the UC at the moment, with Dundee possibly going out, that will leave only Hearts (who won't be seeded in R2), whereas the Czechs look good for three teams, although Zizkov need to overturn a 1-0 defeat from the 1st leg.
Czechs will have Slavia Prague seeded for R2 and probably up to and including R4.
In the CL, Scotland have two teams, which is an obvious advantage over the Czech Republics one.
Any thoughts on the scores of the 8 teams involved or on other countries mounting a challenge? |
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Author: vakho
Date: 29-09-2003, 15:57
| My calculations are - from this point
Scotland 20-22 pts against Czech Rep. 23-25 i.e.
5.0-5.5 vs. 5.75-6.25
Totally Scotland ~8.5 Cze ~8.0
9th place for Czech - however it's probability :
I think it is going to be very interesting !
Behind:
Turkey is too heavy -6 this year , Belgium is too far
even for very good run. |
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Author: bert.kassies
Date: 29-09-2003, 19:05
| pollymac wrote: "A bit miffed that the original topic was relegated to the archive (no replies allowed), maybe something to do with the 'powers of darkness' post?"
All topics started in July have been moved to the archive in the beginning of September. And so will topics that started in August be moved to the archive within a week or so. That's standard policy. Has nothing to do with the content. Only with the performance of the forum. |
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Author: Adam
Date: 29-09-2003, 19:39
| Thanks Bert. I didn't mean that Rangers were evil, it was just a joke.
Scotland for 9th! |
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Author: Adam
Date: 29-09-2003, 19:39
| Thanks Bert. I didn't mean that Rangers were evil, it was just a joke.
Scotland for 9th! |
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Author: Nefi
Date: 29-09-2003, 22:19
| Scotland fon nine only if Czechs finish 8. |
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Author: pollymac
Date: 29-09-2003, 23:08
| sorry...was just wondering |
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Author: hamilton1978
Date: 30-09-2003, 01:23
| pollymac
surely is its an achievement that once in a while that 1 scottish team is in the second round??
I think scotland are doing well for years
god! scotland at their best again! moaning! |
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Author: Nefi
Date: 01-10-2003, 03:32
| 9th place is lost for now. UC matches are the only hope. I wish Sparta to finish 3rd. |
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Author: ricardo
Date: 01-10-2003, 14:29
| the way its going just now, scots and czechs could overtake holland. |
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Author: Adam
Date: 01-10-2003, 17:17
| I don't necessarily want Scotland to overtake Holland this year. If we finish just behind them then we will have two more four-team years to propel ourselves as far up the table as possible. In the long run it's better, no? |
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Author: macaskil
Date: 01-10-2003, 17:41
| My estimates
(2 in ECL, 2 in ECL QR3, 2 in UC)
1.Spain - 16-17 (total 82)
2.Italy - 13-14 (total 64)
3.England - 12-13 (total 63)
(2 in ECL, 1 in QR3, 3 in UC)
4.Germany - 9 (total 54)
5.France - 8 (total 43)
6.Portugal - 9 (total 41)
(1 in ECL, 1 in QR3, 4 in UC)
7.Greece - 3 (total 34)
8.Scotland - 9 (total 34)
(1 in ECL, 1 in QR3, 2 in UC)
9.Netherlands - 5 (total 33)
(1 in QR3, 1 in QR2, 2 in UC)
10.Czech - 6 (total 32)
11.Turkey - 4 (total 30)
If Greek and Turkish sides improve on their bad early results in the ECL all this could change. French clubs have done better than I thought they would so far and I think France will keep ahead of Portugal for 5th place - however for 2004-5 Portugal will start in 5th place.
Interesting thing is the huge gap between the "big 3" and the rest. Is there any way Italy, Spain or England could ever fall out of the top 3? |
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Author: saibot
Date: 01-10-2003, 23:04
| Oh yes, there is:
If you look at the recent results of the english teams, there's a possibility that they lose their spot.
Germany doesn't look very determined to challenge them, but without the Abramovich-Millions England wouldn't earn so many points this season, I think. |
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Author: molosztash
Date: 02-10-2003, 00:30
| I think Gala's bad results will go on, Malatya will be eliminated with null points,
BUT
Besiktas started to show their power, Gaziantep and Trabzon will go up to 2nd round and Gençler will play quarters
SO
I don't hope for many points but nor less points as you estimate... |
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Author: Nefi
Date: 02-10-2003, 01:00
| Before match Sparta-Lazio I was very sceptical. I almost wanted to write on Sparta web pages something like "Sparta wrecks coeficient". Now i've gained my trust in Sparta again. Human confidence is sometimes varying (in my case). |
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Author: Nefi
Date: 16-10-2003, 19:52
| Czechs in the lead. (I will not express on this forum my thoughts againts V. Zizkov.) |
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Author: Sokin
Date: 17-10-2003, 12:26
| 8 Netherlands 6.250 6.083 10.166 6.166 2.250 30.915 4/ 6
9 Czech Republic 8.000 6.000 5.500 6.200 4.125 29.825 3/ 4
Feyenoord will be very important for this |
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Author: Sokin
Date: 17-10-2003, 12:27
| Feyenoord and Teplice of course |
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Author: Ricardo
Date: 17-10-2003, 12:56
| Yes it looks like this is one of the big fights(?) that are going on.
1=Spain, 2/3 Italy/England(but what's the difference!),4=Germany, 5=France
6th place for Portugal is also quite sure, although Greece can get closer, but I think they will not pass.
8th place goes between Netherlands, Czech Republic and Scotland.
Turkey, Belgium and Switzerland are 'save' on 2 CL places, but for the other 2 places(14&15) that also gives right to 2 CL particiapations it can all change: Austria, Isrtael, Poland, Ukraine, Norway, Bulgaria and Serbia-Montenegro all still have a good chance with a few good matches! And then we immediate come in the fight for place 21: the 4th participant! Croatia, Denmark and Russia are all still full in the running for this 1 place. |
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Author: Nefi
Date: 23-10-2003, 03:41
| Well, this is my forecast.
Celtic - 2 points and out.
Rangers - 2 points and UC 4 points.
Hearts - 2 points and out.
Sparta - no more points.
Slavia - 5 points and out.
Teplice - 2 points and out.
Czechs 32.075 9th place
Scotland 31.625 10th place |
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Author: Ricardo
Date: 23-10-2003, 09:41
| And a good week it has been for the Dutch 8th place!
2 wins against Scottish 2 loses. Next step is Feyenoord beating Teplize twice (And that will ofcourse never happen)
It was a bad week for Greece(3 loses) and France (1 draw, 2 loses), while Belgium had 2 wins and is crawling closer to the 9th place (after NEXT year!)
Actually 9th place is much better: The same in CL as 8th place, but only 2 in UefaCup. See the Dutch , NEC and NAC are out without contributing one single point(both 2 loses!!) |
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Author: Geordiepar
Date: 23-10-2003, 11:27
| The good results for Ajax and PSV may actually be bad for them. If they both go on to finish second in their CL groups, then there is a good chance they will go no further than the last 16.
Finishing third in their group would see them go into the UEFA cup where they would be more likley to win, certainly in the 3rd round of the UEFA cup. Probably would score more by finishing 3rd than second.
I still think both Celtic and Rangers will finish 3rd in their groups and both get into the 4th round of the UEFA cup.
The outcome of the Teplice v Feyenoord match will be important as if Teplice win it will really throw open the race for the 8th place. |
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Author: Joost
Date: 23-10-2003, 12:58
| Yes but its wrong to look at the points only. I think what counts in the end is that you want to play on the highest level possible. I preferrably would see Ajax play last 16 of CL than that they would lose the uefacup final. |
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Author: Geordiepar
Date: 23-10-2003, 13:17
| I though this thread wass about who is going to finish 9th in the rankings, which is based SOLELY on the coefficient points.
If the question was who SHOULD finish 8th, 9th or whatever then that is an entirley different topic I would think |
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