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Author: JPV
Date: 28-08-2003, 16:32
| Group A Group B
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Bayern Munchen Ger Arsenal Eng
Olympique Lyon Fra Internazionale Ita
Celtic Glasgow Sco Dinamo Kyiv Ukr
Anderlecht Bel Lokom. Moscow Rus
Group C Group D
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Deport. Coruna Esp Juventus Ita
PSV Eindhoven Net Galatasaray Tur
AEK Athene Gre Olympiakos Gre
AS Monaco Fra Real Sociedad Esp
Group E Group F
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Manchester Utd Eng Real Madrid Esp
Panathinaikos Gre FC Porto Por
Glasgow Rangers Sco Ol. Marseille Fra
VfB Stuttgart Ger Part. Belgrade Srb
Group G Group H
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SS Lazio Ita AC Milaan Ita
Chelsea Eng Celta De Vigo Esp
Sparta Praha Cze Ajax Net
Besiktas Tur Club Brugge Bel |
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Author: vakho
Date: 28-08-2003, 16:34
| Group F is toughest |
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Author: kerrbhoy
Date: 28-08-2003, 17:07
| Interesting that the groups with the 2 strong 2nd seeded clubs (Inter + Chelsea) ended up with the weakest (in my view) 3rd and 4th seeded clubs.. not that I'm suggesting UEFA would interefere with the draw or anything ..
On UK TV right now, they are saying Madrid's draw is the easiest. Depends how you view Partizan Belgrade; I personally think they are quite a weak side which played above themselves against NUFC. Another interesting thing to watch: Zinedine Zidane heading back to Marseille.. |
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Author: Nefi
Date: 28-08-2003, 17:11
| I think that toughest is Group F.
Group A Average 76,93425 Group B Average 75,784
Bayern Munchen Ger 124,566 Arsenal Eng 105,17
Olympique Lyon Fra 76,734 Internazionale Ita 93,155
Celtic Glasgow Sco 57,187 Dinamo Kyiv Ukr 55,291
Anderlecht Bel 49,25 Lokom, Moscow Rus 49,52
Group C Average 65,41075 Group D Average 70,2025
Deport. Coruna Esp 98,769 Juventus Ita 100,155
PSV Eindhoven Net 60,749 Galatasaray Tur 78,495
AEK Athene Gre 56,391 Olympiakos Gre 54,391
AS Monaco Fra 45,734 Real Sociedad Esp 47,769
Group E Average 77,0785 Group F Average 77,30225
Manchester Utd Eng 136,17 Real Madrid Esp 151,769
Panathinaikos Gre 72,391 FC Porto Por 86,791
Glasgow Rangers Sco 50,187 Olympique Marseille Fra 49,734
VfB Stuttgart Ger 49,566 Partizan Belgrade Srb 20,915
Group G Average 64,94875 Group H Average 70,73075
SS Lazio Ita 106,155 AC Milan Ita 97,155
Chelsea Eng 70,17 Celta De Vigo Esp 86,769
Sparta Praha Cze 49,975 Ajax Net 54,749
Besiktas Tur 33,495 Club Brugge Bel 44,25 |
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Author: Nefi
Date: 28-08-2003, 17:14
| How can I format my text as JPV did? |
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Author: rod_c
Date: 28-08-2003, 17:14
| I actually think Group F is only tough for Marseille & Belgrade.
Groups G & H will have 4 teams in each thinking they've a good chance of going through & should end up tight, cut-throat groups.
Group E should have a clear winner in Man Utd, but the other 3 will all fancy their chances. |
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Author: JPV
Date: 28-08-2003, 17:15
| i wouldn't call group F the toughest, average team ranking doesn't say much about toughness, since extremes are levelled out. I wouldn't call 1 group very strong or very weak...
Matchday One Tuesday 16 Sep 2003
Rangers FC VfB Stuttgart
Manchester United FC Panathinaikos FC
Real Madrid CF Olympique de Marseille
FK Partizan FC Porto
AC Sparta Praha Chelsea FC
Besiktas JK S.S. Lazio
AC Milan AFC Ajax
Club Brugge KV RC Celta de Vigo
Matchday One Wednesday 17 Sep 2003
Olympique Lyonnais RSC Anderlecht
FC Bayern München Celtic FC
FC Dynamo Kyiv FC Lokomotiv Moskva
Arsenal FC FC Internazionale
AEK Athens FC RC Deportivo La Coruña
PSV Eindhoven AS Monaco FC
Juventus Galatasaray SK
Real Sociedad de Fútbol Olympiacos CFP
Matchday Two Tuesday 30 Sep 2003
Celtic FC Olympique Lyonnais
RSC Anderlecht FC Bayern München
FC Internazionale FC Dynamo Kyiv
FC Lokomotiv Moskva Arsenal FC
AS Monaco FC AEK Athens FC
RC Deportivo La Coruña PSV Eindhoven
Olympiacos CFP Juventus
Galatasaray SK Real Sociedad de Fútbol
Matchday Two Wednesday 1 Oct 2003
Panathinaikos FC Rangers FC
VfB Stuttgart Manchester United FC
FC Porto Real Madrid CF
Olympique de Marseille FK Partizan
S.S. Lazio AC Sparta Praha
Chelsea FC Besiktas JK
RC Celta de Vigo AC Milan
AFC Ajax Club Brugge KV
Matchday Three Tuesday 21 Oct 2003
RSC Anderlecht Celtic FC
Olympique Lyonnais FC Bayern München
FC Lokomotiv Moskva FC Internazionale
FC Dynamo Kyiv Arsenal FC
RC Deportivo La Coruña AS Monaco FC
AEK Athens FC PSV Eindhoven
Galatasaray SK Olympiacos CFP
Juventus Real Sociedad de Fútbol
Matchday Three Wednesday 22 Oct 2003
VfB Stuttgart Panathinaikos FC
Rangers FC Manchester United FC
Olympique de Marseille FC Porto
Real Madrid CF FK Partizan
Chelsea FC S.S. Lazio
AC Sparta Praha Besiktas JK
AFC Ajax RC Celta de Vigo
AC Milan Club Brugge KV
Matchday Four Tuesday 4 Nov 2003
Panathinaikos FC VfB Stuttgart
Manchester United FC Rangers FC
FC Porto Olympique de Marseille
FK Partizan Real Madrid CF
S.S. Lazio Chelsea FC
Besiktas JK AC Sparta Praha
RC Celta de Vigo AFC Ajax
Club Brugge KV AC Milan
Matchday Four Wednesday 5 Nov 2003
Celtic FC RSC Anderlecht
FC Bayern München Olympique Lyonnais
FC Internazionale FC Lokomotiv Moskva
Arsenal FC FC Dynamo Kyiv
AS Monaco FC RC Deportivo La Coruña
PSV Eindhoven AEK Athens FC
Olympiacos CFP Galatasaray SK
Real Sociedad de Fútbol Juventus
Matchday Five Tuesday 25 Nov 2003
RSC Anderlecht Olympique Lyonnais
Celtic FC FC Bayern München
FC Lokomotiv Moskva FC Dynamo Kyiv
FC Internazionale Arsenal FC
RC Deportivo La Coruña AEK Athens FC
AS Monaco FC PSV Eindhoven
Galatasaray SK Juventus
Olympiacos CFP Real Sociedad de Fútbol
Matchday Five Wednesday 26 Nov 2003
VfB Stuttgart Rangers FC
Panathinaikos FC Manchester United FC
Olympique de Marseille Real Madrid CF
FC Porto FK Partizan
Chelsea FC AC Sparta Praha
S.S. Lazio Besiktas JK
AFC Ajax AC Milan
RC Celta de Vigo Club Brugge KV
Matchday Six Tuesday 9 Dec 2003
Rangers FC Panathinaikos FC
Manchester United FC VfB Stuttgart
Real Madrid CF FC Porto
FK Partizan Olympique de Marseille
AC Sparta Praha S.S. Lazio
Besiktas JK Chelsea FC
AC Milan RC Celta de Vigo
Club Brugge KV AFC Ajax
Matchday Six Wednesday 10 Dec 2003
Olympique Lyonnais Celtic FC
FC Bayern München RSC Anderlecht
FC Dynamo Kyiv FC Internazionale
Arsenal FC FC Lokomotiv Moskva
AEK Athens FC AS Monaco FC
PSV Eindhoven RC Deportivo La Coruña
Juventus Olympiacos CFP
Real Sociedad de Fútbol Galatasaray SK |
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Author: macaskil
Date: 28-08-2003, 17:19
| On your figures Group F is only marginally stronger than Group E. However Partizan are clearly a better team than their coefficient suggests. Obviously the Man U/Rangers clash in Group E is going to be interesting, given that Ferguson is an ex-Rangers player, plus the normal England-Scotland rivalry.
However - look at the REAL gruppo del morte - the one including Olympiakos and Galatasaray - who would want to referee that one! |
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Author: kerrbhoy
Date: 28-08-2003, 17:25
| Partizan are probably better than their coefficient suggests, but their seeding is correct. They are no better than any of the 3rd group teams, or Sociedad, Monaco etc. |
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Author: JPV
Date: 28-08-2003, 18:00
| nefi: look at "codes" in the menu section.
it's:
(p)text between(/p)
(but square brackets instead of "(" and ")")
this gives:text beween |
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Author: molosztash
Date: 29-08-2003, 10:35
| We are in Group G. It is interesting that our European challenge last year was finished with the Besiktas - Lazio match, and this year we start with it again. Same thing happened in the league. We finished away to Samsun last year, and started with it this year...
I think Besiktas will qualify, because the team developed this year. Last year we were eliminated by a stupid mistake at the 4th minute. It won't be the same for this year. I expect a win and a draw against Lazio, a draw against Chelsea and a win and a draw against Sparta Prague.
I dont think Galatasaray will qualify. Juventus and Sociedad are too strong for Galatasaray. I hope to see Nihat scoring against Galatasaray.
For all of the groups, i can say Bayern, Celtic, Arsenal, Inter, Deportivo, AEK, Juventus, Sociedad, Man U, Panathinaikos, Real Madrid, Porto, Chelsea, Besiktas, Milan and Celta will cruise... |
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Author: sr_sofisticacao
Date: 29-08-2003, 12:20
| I think group F will be easy for Real and Porto (unless a big surprise comes).
I think Partizan got qualified with a very good deal of luck and aren't a very though oponent.
Group H and and G (in this order) are for me the thoughest.
In H, Milan, Celta and Ajax are all team capable of reaching 1/4 finals (one of them won't), and Brugges was able to eliminate Dortmund, so don't expect them to be ones everyone wins against.
G: All the teams are expected to pass. All of them have a real chance (they are not so strong as the teams in group H). |
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Author: Ricardo
Date: 29-08-2003, 12:55
| What about group C?
none of them is really strong and none of them is really weak. This is certainly a group where all 4 teams have possibilities to become aswell first as last. |
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Author: porto-1978
Date: 30-08-2003, 16:51
| I remember Partizan Beograd playing very well against Porto something like 3 years ago in Uefa Cup. Porto won but they showed to be a very good team. One of the decisive Porto?s goals was made by Drulovic that is playing again in Partizan, after the portuguese adventure. Marseille is also a good team but my predition is that will discuss the 3rd place with Partizan. |
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Author: Adam
Date: 02-09-2003, 13:13
| Group C is the toughest to call and may have a team qualifying on eight points. The real zero-point contenders for me are Olympiakos and Brugge, they both have about as difficult draws as they could possibly get. Although there may be no teams that end up with no points of course. |
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Author: krdeluxe
Date: 02-09-2003, 16:56
| The big games per matchday:
One: 1. AC Milan - Ajax, 2. Arsenal - Inter 3. Bayern - Celtic 4. Juventus - Galatasaray 5. Real Madrid - Marseille 6. Kyiv - Lok. Moskow (Ukraine - Russia)
Two: 1. Porto - Real Madrid 2. Celta Vigo - AC Milan 3. Celtic - Lyonnais 4. Ajax - Brugge (Holland - Belgium) 5. Stuttgart - Manchester United
Three: 1. Rangers - Man. Utd. 2. Chelsea - Lazio 3. Juventus - Sociedad 4. Ajax - Celta Vigo 5. Lyonnais - Bayern 6. Galatasaray - Olympiakos (Turkey - Greece)
Four: see three
Five: see one
Six: see two |
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