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UC R2 seeded-unseeded teams
Author: drcgian
Date: 04-10-2002, 11:19
Does anybody know, as the draw is on Tue, Oct 8, when the seedings of UC 2nd round will be known?
I believe that sonner or later Bert will update his excellent job, but i would like to know the seeding groups, if possible.
Thanks!

Re: UC R2 seeded-unseeded teams
Author: celtbhoy
Date: 04-10-2002, 11:31
I show below a post I have just made to a Celtic Board and perhaps it will help you in terms of seeded teams. Teams not include are imo the seeded teams

Which team do you support?

The next round will consist of 48 teams of which 24 are seeded. Celtic who are now ranked 58th in the co-eff table are the 15th rated team and are therefore seeded.

The teams we can be drawn against are as follows;

DINAMO ZAGREB...70
GRASSHOPPERS....74
TEL AVIV........76
VITESSE ARNHEM..77
BLACKBURN.......78
FULHAM..........78
BESIKATAS.......100
LEGIA WARSAW....106
RED STAR........113
FERNABACHE......121
AMICA WRONKI....125
VIKING STAV.....129
PART.BELGRADE...130
LEVSKI SOFIA....142
AUSTRIA WIEN....179
DJURARDENS......199
NAT. BUCHAREST..242
DENIZLISPOR
VICTORIA ZIZKOV
FERENVARCOS
WISLA KRAKOW
NICOSIA
FAMAGUSTA
FC MIDTYLLANS

Can't gaurantee that this is 100% but it will be quite close, so take your pick. My own preference is for Victoria Zizkov!!

Re: UC R2 seeded-unseeded teams
Author: drcgian
Date: 04-10-2002, 11:41
Thanks! In fact i already know the seeded and unseeded teams, by using previous seedings of R1 where disqualified teams have remove. I just wanted to know about group seedings. (The teams will be divided to 6 probably groups of 8, 4 seeded and 4 unseeded).
Thanks anyway.
Zizkov seems a very nice team and Chech teams seem to find their strength again.
I support Panathinaikos, as i come from Greece, but there are a few teams that i like all over Europe.
Generally, i like good football.

Re: UC R2 seeded-unseeded teams
Author: alexkom
Date: 04-10-2002, 13:06
--- SEEDED ---

Lazio Roma Ita 106.334
AC Parma Ita 91.334
Leeds United Eng 76.729
Celta de Vigo Esp 76.233
FC Porto Por 66.124
Girondins Bordeaux Fra 63.176
Panathinaikos Gre 57.058
CD Alavés Esp 55.233
VfB Stuttgart Ger 53.495
Hertha BSC Ger 52.495
Paris Saint-Germain Fra 51.176
Real Betis Esp 49.233
Sparta Praha Cze 48.312
Slavia Praha Cze 47.312
Schalke '04 Ger 46.495
Werder Bremen Ger 46.495
PAOK Thessaloniki Gre 41.058
Anderlecht Bel 38.762
Sturm Graz Aut 37.625
Boavista Por 36.124
Celtic Sco 36.062
Ipswich Town Eng 35.729
Dinamo Zagreb Cro 35.520
Málaga CF Esp 34.233

--- UNSEEDED ---

Vitesse Arnhem Ned 30.082
Grasshopper-Club Zürich Sui 29.312
Slovan Liberec Cze 29.312
Blackburn Rovers Eng 28.729
Fulham FC Eng 27.729
Hapoel Tel-Aviv Isr 26.666
Besiktas Tur 26.362
Wisla Krakow Pol 21.750
Fenerbahçe Tur 19.362
Viking Stavanger Nor 17.737
Viking Stavanger Nor 17.737
Amica Wronki Pol 15.750
Denizlispor Tur 14.362
Viktoria Zizkov Cze 14.312
Partizan Belgrade Yug 14.165
Austria Wien Aut 11.625
Levski Sofia Bul 11.582
Rapid Bucuresti Rom 10.958
Ferencvaros Hun 9.874
FC Midtjylland Den 8.687
Djurgĺrdens IF Swe 8.620
Anorthosis Famagusta Cyp 7.666
National Bucuresti Rom 6.958
APOEL Nicosia Cyp 4.666

Re: UC R2 seeded-unseeded teams
Author: broxibear
Date: 04-10-2002, 13:46
Celtbhoy ,

you may wish for Viktoria Zizkov but you should aim a bit lower in the rankings if you wish to progress. After all Viktoria Zizkov's co-efficient is 14.312 which is coincidentally the same as FC Basel's. Remember them ? :-)

Re: UC R2 seeded-unseeded teams
Author: vakho
Date: 04-10-2002, 14:21
I guess one should supporse that main base-stone in dividing tems
into "geographical" zones will the principle of keeping apart teams from the same country.

Re: UC R2 seeded-unseeded teams
Author: kurt
Date: 04-10-2002, 19:37
cethboy,

I also hope that celtic meets a chech team, so Belgium now on spot 12 can climb hopefully to spot 10 ( probably one direct spot to champions league )
Belgium biggest opponants are scottish and chechteams

so if you play each other certainly one team is down for the next round

It is a pity that the belgian teams in the champions league take very little points.

Re: UC R2 seeded-unseeded teams
Author: Frank
Date: 04-10-2002, 20:57
UEFA have announced that the 48 clubs will be divided into 4 groups of 12 teams (6 seeded & 6 non-seeded teams).

Does anyone know how UEFA will split the teams into the 4 groups?

Re: UC R2 seeded-unseeded teams
Author: bert.kassies
Date: 05-10-2002, 10:52
You may take a look at earlier discussions in this forum. Only one objective of the grouping is clear: clubs from the same country cannot be drawn into the same group.

In the past there were some indications that UEFA used a rather rigid scheme for the other clubs. But, to my knowledge, such a simple scheme cannot be found in later groupings. It is quite possible that a random computer draw (with constraints) is used nowadays.

Besides the constraint that clubs from the same country cannot be in the same group, it's not clear whether (and if which) other constraints are used. Perhaps UEFA is reluctant to tell us, because of the political aspects of such constraints.

Re: UC R2 seeded-unseeded teams
Author: drcgian
Date: 05-10-2002, 15:57
Many thanks to all of you for your info.