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Prediction for UEFA country ranking after 2002/03
Author: fidox Date: 30-09-2002, 14:26	1 Spain 2 England 3 Italy 4 Germany 5 France 6 Netherlands 7 Greece 8 Portugal 9 Belgium 10 Scotland 11 Turkey 12 Israel 13 Czech Republic 14 Switzerland 15 Ukraine 16 Austria 17 Russia 18 Poland 19 Yugoslavia 20 Norway

Re: Prediction for UEFA country ranking after 2002/03
Author: eyal Date: 30-09-2002, 15:26	i really can't see israel in 12th place even after this season finish

Author: H-AAB-et
Date: 30-09-2002, 15:53

Why did you stop at spot 20. It is between the 21st ans 22nd spot the divides with 4 or 3 EC team. This and next season my country had the 21st spot, but has to be very lucky on Thursday and the coming rounds to maintain the position.
In my view it is not important if Norway and so on, is 16 or 20, since it will give the same numer of teams and entrance in the EC.
The currently figth among countries is:
No.8-9 Portugal-Turkey about a born or via the Qual in the Uefa.
The next is No. 14-15-16 where no. 16 has only one team in the CL. And finally the 21st spot who marks the last spot with 4 EC team. There is 3 countries battling for it.
The rest are not important and/or likely to hold it.

BR BN

Re: Prediction for UEFA country ranking after 2002/03
Author: Vladutz Date: 30-09-2002, 16:27	Here's my ranking for 2003: 1) Spain 2) England 3) Italy 4) Germany 5) France 6) Greece 7) Netherlands 8) Turkey 9) Portugal 10)Belgium 11)Czech Rep. 12)Scotland 13)Israel 14)Switzerland 15)Ukraine 16)Austria 17)Russia 18)Yugoslavia 19)Poland 20)Croatia 21)Norway 22)Bulgaria 23)Denmark 24)Romania 25)Sweden 26)Hungary 27)Slovakia 28)Cyprus 29)Slovenia 30)Finland

Re: Prediction for UEFA country ranking after 2002/03
Author: warren Date: 01-10-2002, 08:15	15 Ukraine 16 Austria 17 Russia I think Russia and Ukraine will slip a few places. 6 Greece 7 Netherlands There is a lot of debate about the fight for sixth place between Greece and the Netherlands. Personally I believe that Greece will stay sixth for a few years.

Author: putzeijs
Date: 01-10-2002, 08:31

I make some predictions too, and i try to go as far as 3 years ahead. Belgiums 9th place looks impossible before the end of season 2004-5, but in 2006 I predict a direct Ch L spot for Belgium too. Whitch might be surprisingly when we see the results of Belgian teams so far (both in Ch L and UC).

Here is my current prediction for the end of the seasons 2004-5; 2005-6 (entry tabel for 6-7 and 7-8)

1) Spain 2) Italie 3) England 4)Germany 5) France
6) Holland 34p 7-8) Portug. and Greece 32p
9) Belgium 26p
10-13) Czech R, Scotland, Turkey, Swiss 24p
14-17) Austria, Israel, Croatia, Russia 21p
18) Ukrain 19p
19-21) Poland, Norway, Danmark 17p
22-24) Sweden, Bulgaria, Yougoslavia 13p

Re: Prediction for UEFA country ranking after 2002/03
Author: fidox Date: 01-10-2002, 11:31	The following places could be: 21 Bulgaria 22 Croatia 23 Denmark 24 Sweden 25 Romania 26 Slovakia 27 Hungary 28 Cyprus 29 Slovenia 30 Finland

Re: Prediction for UEFA country ranking after 2002/03
Author: paca Date: 01-10-2002, 12:25	putzeijs, you made some mistakes in your country ranking for next years. First, Yugoslavia changed name. Next year, officially name of this federation will be Serbia & Montenegro. Second, after many years of war and sanctions, Yugoslavia is making constant progress and there is no way this countru will be below position 20 in UEFA country ranking for next years.

Author: putzeijs
Date: 01-10-2002, 12:39

Paca,
It's quite possible things will work out otherwise than these predictions. Their are calculated 100% objective, buth based uppon the actual UEFA-coëff. If you take into acount the country coeff of 98/99 to 01/02, you get : 4.166, 3.166, 4.5, 3.166. That isn't a 100% clear possitive evolution neither.

Buth I don't say my predictions are better than the weatherforecast. If UEFA changes the UC next month, all these predictions have to be recalculated.

Author: delyan
Date: 02-10-2002, 11:26

1. Spain
2. Italy
3. England (I like English football very much and Italian - just the opposite, however Newcastle and Liverpool are not coming too far in the CL this year, besides the points for England are divided by 9 and for Italy - by 7)
4. Germany
5. France
6. Greece
7. Netherlands
8. Turkey
9. Portugal
10. Belgium
11. Czech republic
12. Scotland
13. Israel
14. Ukraina
15. Switzerland
16. Austria
17. Poland
18. Russia
19. Norway
20. Yugoslavia
21-22. Bulgaria - Croatia (I am not sure yet....want very much to be Bulgaria of course

Re: Prediction for UEFA country ranking after 2002/03
Author: drcgian Date: 02-10-2002, 12:06	1 - Spain 2-3 - England, Italy 4 - Germany 5 - France 6-7 - Greece, Netherlands 8 - Portugal 9-15 - Turkey, Scotland , Czech Rep., Belgium, Switzerland, Israel, Ukraine 16-18 - Austria, Russia, Poland 19-24 Norway, Jugoslavia, Croatia, Bulgaria, Sweden, Denmark 25-end probably unchanged

Author: nomad
Date: 04-11-2002, 11:56

Now it's easyer to make a prediction:

1 : Spain
2-3 : Italy/England and it doesn't matter
4 : Germany
5 : France
6 : Greece
7 : Netherlands
8 : Portugal
9 : Belgium
10 : Czech R
11 : Turkey
12 : Scotland
13 : Ukraine
14 : Israel
15 : Switzerland
16 : Austria
17 : Russia (16 if Lokomotive wins Brugge)
18 : Yugoslavia
19 : Poland
20 : Norway
21 : Croatia

In the following years I think the first 7 places will stay stable and the competition will be for the 8th place (last place allowing 6 teams to participate in the UEFA matches)
By my opinion the candidates are : Portugal, Belgium, Czech and Israel.

Re: Prediction for UEFA country ranking after 2002/03
Author: eyal Date: 04-11-2002, 15:48	we don't have enough teams in israel if we have 6 teams in the european cup it will be a disgrace we have 3 teams and the rest can't even win in the qualifying round in the uefa cup

Re: Prediction for UEFA country ranking after 2002/03
Author: feelesh Date: 04-11-2002, 18:45	Slightly off topic, but what is also interesting is where will Bayern be ranked by the end of the season? Valencia, Man Utd and Barcelona will over take them, and if they have a good run, possibly Arsenal as well.

Re: Prediction for UEFA country ranking after 2002/03
Author: nomad Date: 04-11-2002, 19:20	eyal, I spoke about a possibility to reach 8th place and not to stay there. No country from the mentioned above isn't able to play with 6 teams good enough. For this reason I think UEFA has to change the rules to allow 5 clubs participation for countries 7-8 or 7-9

Re: Prediction for UEFA country ranking after 2002/03
Author: eyal Date: 04-11-2002, 19:38	i know what you meant i just said what i think about that posibilty

Re: Prediction for UEFA country ranking after 2002/03
Author: nomad Date: 04-11-2002, 19:51	Ok, let's see (bring to you notice that according to UEFA Country Ranking 2006 Israel is in the 7th place so far)

Re: Prediction for UEFA country ranking after 2002/03
Author: eyal Date: 04-11-2002, 21:24	maybe in 2006 we will have some more good teams last time a team not from the big 3 played in europe they lost 10-0 to roda

Re: Prediction for UEFA country ranking after 2002/03
Author: jpcccc Date: 06-11-2002, 00:57	Most predictions put Portugal on 8th place. I would rather fall back to 9th, not 10th, in order to have portuguese champions safe on CL but only 4 teams overall. Could not Belgium or Czech republic improve its performance ?

Author: kurt
Date: 07-11-2002, 20:32

I totally agree with you jpcccc
I am from belgium, and i hope that belgium never reach spot 8, if it occurs they will drop out the top 15 in two years, goodbye 2 champions league spots.

In belgium and most of the countries , there are not 6 good clubs to compete in europe.

In my opinion the countries ranked 6-10th should have 5 teams in europe ( 2CL + 3UC).The best for Russia, portugal, Greece, Netherlands, Turkey

Author: Ricardo
Date: 11-11-2002, 08:52

AsS you see the gap between France(5th) and Greece(6th) There should be a line there to start from there 5 places. But this 6th place makes it interesting, otherwise, what's the difference between 6th and 7th. So I do agree thet there should be some countries with 5 UEFA-places, but to start at 7th would make it interesting to fight for the 6th place!

As to predictions which teams:
6/7 will be a fight between Greece and Netherlands(for now the first seems to win)
8/9/10/11 Portugal, Czech, Belgium, Turkey(If they can get back to where they were 2-3 years ago)
And next we have some surprise countries who can have a few good years and will go up and down and reach the top ten or just not:
Israel, Switzerland, Austria, Russia, Scotland, Ukraine

Author: vakho
Date: 11-11-2002, 15:53

To jpccc:
I put a table from PL champions and runners up since 1938 - very interesting. I think it's really interesting table. That's why I think Benfica is really "pity" to be downclassed as well as Porto and Sporting.
Rememebering 00-01 Boavista's title I have a question by the way: what wrong was in year 45-46 ?
Years 71-72 seem to be vulnerable for other 2 just Benfica can be seen!(?)

1938/39 FC Porto (runners-up: Sporting CP
1939/40 FC Porto (runners-up: Sporting CP
1940/41 Sporting CP (runners-up: FC Porto
1941/42 SL Benfica (runners-up: Sporting CP
1942/43 SL Benfica (runners-up: Sporting CP
1943/44 Sporting CP (runners-up: SL Benfica
1944/45 SL Benfica (runners-up: Sporting CP
1945/46 CF "Os Belenenses" (bingo!) (runners-up: SL Benfica
1946/47 Sporting CP (runners-up: SL Benfica
1947/48 Sporting CP (runners-up: SL Benfica
1948/49 Sporting CP (runners-up: SL Benfica
1949/50 SL Benfica (runners-up: Sporting CP
1950/51 Sporting CP (runners-up: FC Porto
1951/52 Sporting CP (runners-up: SL Benfica
1952/53 Sporting CP (runners-up: SL Benfica
1953/54 Sporting CP (runners-up: FC Porto
1954/55 SL Benfica (runners-up: CF Belenen
1955/56 FC Porto (runners-up: SL Benfica
1956/57 SL Benfica (runners-up: FC Porto
1957/58 Sporting CP (runners-up: FC Porto
1958/59 FC Porto (runners-up: SL Benfica
1959/60 SL Benfica (runners-up: Sporting CP
1960/61 SL Benfica (runners-up: Sporting CP
1961/62 Sporting CP (runners-up: FC Porto
1962/63 SL Benfica (runners-up: FC Porto
1963/64 SL Benfica (runners-up: FC Porto
1964/65 SL Benfica (runners-up: FC Porto
1965/66 Sporting CP (runners-up: SL Benfica
1966/67 SL Benfica (runners-up: Académica
1967/68 SL Benfica (runners-up: Sporting CP
1968/69 SL Benfica (runners-up: FC Porto
1969/70 Sporting CP (runners-up: SL Benfica

1970/71 SL Benfica (runners-up: Sporting CP
1971/72 SL Benfica (runners-up: Vit.Setúbal

1972/73 SL Benfica (runners-up: Belenenses
1973/74 Sporting CP (runners-up: SL Benfica
1974/75 SL Benfica (runners-up: FC Porto
1975/76 SL Benfica (runners-up: Boavista FC
1976/77 SL Benfica (runners-up: Sporting CP
1977/78 FC Porto (runners-up: SL Benfica
1978/79 FC Porto (runners-up: SL Benfica
1979/80 Sporting CP (runners-up: FC Porto
1980/81 SL Benfica (runners-up: FC Porto
1981/82 Sporting CP (runners-up: SL Benfica
1982/83 SL Benfica (runners-up: FC Porto
1983/84 SL Benfica (runners-up: FC Porto
1984/85 FC Porto (runners-up: Sporting CP
1985/86 FC Porto (runners-up: SL Benfica
1986/87 SL Benfica (runners-up: FC Porto
1987/88 FC Porto (runners-up: SL Benfica
1988/89 SL Benfica (runners-up: FC Porto
1989/90 FC Porto (runners-up: SL Benfica
1990/91 SL Benfica (runners-up: FC Porto
1991/92 FC Porto (runners-up: SL Benfica
1992/93 FC Porto (runners-up: SL Benfica
1993/94 SL Benfica (runners-up: FC Porto
1994/95 FC Porto (runners-up: Sporting CP
1995/96 FC Porto (runners-up: SL Benfica
1996/97 FC Porto (runners-up: Sporting CP
1997/98 FC Porto (runners-up: SL Benfica
1998/99 FC Porto (runners-up: Boavista FC
1999/00 Sporting CP (runners-up: FC Porto
2000/01 Boavista FC (runners-up: FC Porto
2001/02 Sporting CP (runners-up: Boavista FC

Re: Prediction for UEFA country ranking after 2002/03
Author: vakho Date: 12-11-2002, 09:11	Sorry don't mention it wrong thread