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Author: feelesh
Date: 28-05-2002, 14:33

We appear to have respondents from various nations on the forum. Would anybody be prepared to say how they think their nation will manage during the WC.

Personally I expect England to finish second in group F and fall to France in the next round.

Argentina v France in one semi,
Spain v Italy in the other, with
Argentina beating Italy in the final.

PS I predicted a Man Utd v Barcelona CL final so I'm no expert.

Re: World Cup predictions
Author: seso Date: 28-05-2002, 15:38	Semis: Italy-Spain, Brazil-Argentina Final: Italy-Brazil Winner: Brazil No Greece in the WC.....

Re: World Cup predictions
Author: WiSK Date: 28-05-2002, 16:34	My team went out in the qualifiers too... Seso, I think you are right except I think that it will be Portugal and not Spain who loses from Italy in the semis. All the media seems to think that France will at least get to the final, but I think that Argentina and Brazil are stronger.

Re: World Cup predictions
Author: jrafs Date: 28-05-2002, 17:07	Hello everybody. Here is the vote of the Portuguese jury: Semis: Portugal vs Spain Brasil vs Argentina Final : Portugal vs Brasil Brasil World Champion Sorry but that is what i think

Re: World Cup predictions
Author: jpcccc Date: 29-05-2002, 02:53	Another opinion from Portugal: i expect Portugal to win its group, defeat Spain along the way and losing to Germany in the semis. My semis: Argentina-Brazil ; Germany-Portugal Final: Germany-Brazil. Winner: Brazil. However, since i expect a France-Brazil in the quarters (my real final...), you might replace Brazil for France in the above predictions.

Re: World Cup predictions
Author: delyan Date: 29-05-2002, 09:38	Bulgaria didn't qualify Here's my prediction: Argentina beating Spain in the final

Re: World Cup predictions
Author: ivcotto Date: 29-05-2002, 10:23	So, Russia will be at the 1st place in group H, then, in 1/8 we `ll face with Turkey and probably win. But in quaterfinal no chance with Argentina...you know My quaterfinals: Germany - Italy France - Brasil Argentina - Russia Spain - (attention, please)Croatia

Re: World Cup predictions
Author: Celtbhoy Date: 31-05-2002, 01:27	France Spain Brazil South Korea Germany Argentina Italy Russia

Author: Philmath40
Date: 31-05-2002, 13:19

Well, as I'm French, France is my favorite.

But as I'm a bad predictor, i prefer to give you my opinion about the 1/4 final:

France - Brasil: revenge of the last final, be careful to the Brasil, he can find a great team for this world cup.

Argentina - Belgium: Belgium has a great destructor team for his opponent. Perhaps one of the surprises of this world cup.

Cameroon - Italy: Cameroon, second surprise!

Spain- Portugal: what a derby!

see you on June 21st and 22nd to see if i'm right

Re: World Cup predictions
Author: jrafs Date: 31-05-2002, 15:32	Well, well ... Any more ideas about results ?? Senegal did what nobody expected !! It seams this is going to be some Championship... and as far as I can see some of the big teams will have to play as hard if they want just a small point ... Nice game Senegal boys !

Re: World Cup predictions
Author: vakho Date: 31-05-2002, 15:39	Looks like start game in Italy90 , nevertheless Argentina went to the final. But today France's ass is whiped !

Re: World Cup predictions
Author: WickerMan Date: 31-05-2002, 15:56	Scotland is not there but I am still very interested. A lot of smart money is going on Italy. I agree. I don't think Senegal would have beaten a well organised Italy. Italy for me!

Author: Philmath40
Date: 31-05-2002, 17:09

Yes it was like Italy90!

It seems that some favorites teams will have difficulties against teams like Africans.

But the game played by France was very poor and it's the more worried of this match. Only 2 or 3 occasions in all the match, what a pity!

Now we must win against Uruguay and Denmark ( and it won't be easy!) to qualify but if the level of our play is not better, we won't go far in this competition!

Author: WiSK
Date: 01-06-2002, 00:12

Wickerman, you say "a lot of smart money is going on Italy". It's only smart money when they win. Heh

I think Italy will go very far, probably the final but that is because they have very little resistance to make it that far. Seriously I think Portugal is the only other one that can make the final on that side of the fixture tree.

The side of the fixtures with Argentina, Brasil, France, England, Nigeria, Senegal, Turkey, Russia, Japan seems much more ready for upsets. I find this a more exciting set of matches.

Author: H-AAB-et
Date: 02-06-2002, 03:08

My WC estimat:
A) Dispite Senegals victory I will say France and Denmark. The results from round 1, just change whois gonna be 1. So 1: DK and 2) France
B) 19 Spain 2) Paraguay
C) Brazil and proberly a surprise to many people 2) Costa Rica
D) Portugal and South-Corea. Most likely Portugal as No.1
E) Same as A. The results has just altered whois gonna be No.1 Now its Germany followed by Cameroun.
F) Argentina and Sweden.
G) Italy and Croatia
H) Russia and Japan

Teams I give almost no chance to reach 1/8 finals: Uruguay, Southafrica, China, KSA, Nigeria, Ecuador and Tunesia.

The 1/8 finals:
1 Germany - Paraguay (difficult, hope and believe in Paraguay)
2 Denmark - Sweden ( The nordic clash, winner ??. Even I am a Dane, I must say Sweden)
3 Argentina - France (close game, but with some luck, bye bye France)
4 Spain - Cameroun. (adios Africa)
5 Italy - South Corea (Thanks for the WC Corea, but bye)
6 Brazil - Japan (again thanks for WC Japan, but sorry you're out)
7 Russia - Costa Rica (adios CR)
8 Portugal - Croatia ( most likely to be a great game, winner: Portugal)

quaterfinals:
2-6. Sweden vs Brazil. (sorry Sweden)
1-5. Paraguay vs Italy (The end for Paraguay)
4-8. Spain vs Portugal (The Iberian clash, with big brother as a winner)
3-7. Argentina vs Russia. (adios Russia)

Semi:
Spain - Italy
Brazil - Argentina

( 2 local derbies, This time it must be Spain, and Argentina was very good in the qualifier and they have something to figth for, after the national economic collaps)

So the final. Spain - Argentina. (The old colonial power versus the Argentina, I still believe that Spain will pull it off).

So New WC winner would be Spain.

Re: World Cup predictions
Author: danat Date: 08-06-2002, 23:12	I'm italian. After Italy-Croatia (good referees Fifa has!), this is my prediction: semifinals: England-Brazil Spain-Croatia Final: England-Spain Winner: England

Re: World Cup predictions
Author: Ricardo Date: 10-06-2002, 08:32	Altough I'm not Italian, I think Italy will winn against Mexico(danat, if you put Croatia in the semi's, you agree that they at least deserved to win!) After sunday's matches I guess it will be semi's: Italy-Spain (easy side) England-Argentina(what a rematch it will be!!) and final: Spain-England winner: England But after a week one can see: anything is possible!

Re: World Cup predictions
Author: ahmet Date: 14-06-2002, 15:39	Now 16 teams are known. Up to here all predictions were very poor. Shall we start again? QF England-Brazil Germany-Mexico Spain-Italy Sweden-Turkey SF England-Turkey Germany-Spain F England-Germany (I wish Turkey was here instaed of England) Anyway, this would be a great final. Winner Germany

Re: World Cup predictions
Author: vakho Date: 14-06-2002, 16:29	One observation - as world cup getting closer to the end the quality of predictions are higher In the final it should be winner of Japanese half vs. winner of Korean part - why nodody likes to admit that Winner in Japan ... Japan Winner in Korea ... Korea

Re: World Cup predictions
Author: Kris Date: 14-06-2002, 18:10	Well my favourite was and still is ENGLAND. I think that they showed good performances in the previous matches and if they pass Brazil in the 1/4 finals (which will be their biggest test), they'll have open way to the title. So COME ON ENGLAND !!!!!! FOOTBALL'S COMING HOME !!!!!!

Author: porker
Date: 14-06-2002, 18:34

The World Cup has thrown up quite a few surprises so far, so its not surprising that peoples predictions are quite far off. Making predictions for the next round is going to prove difficult and I think I'll let my heart do the talking rather than my head.
Quarters:
England Brazil
Sweden Japan
Germany Mexico
Ireland Italy

Semis:
England Japan
Germany Italy

Final:
Italy to beat England

Whilst many of the teams, in the second round are different to those I predicted before the tournament, the final is still the same as I expected. I think Brazil have a great chance of winning, thus if England and Brazil do meet in the quarters we'll have a great game on our hands. Come on England!!!!!!!!!

Re: World Cup predictions
Author: jpcccc Date: 15-06-2002, 23:12	Well, making predictions along the way is not that fair. So, I'll just update my previous ones, according to the fact that France, Argentina and Portugal are out. Semis: Sweden-Brazil and Germany-Spain Final: Germany-Brazil Winner Brazil. If I keep doing this each round i have a 50% chance of spotting the winner

Author: H-AAB-et
Date: 16-06-2002, 14:37

It is nice too be wrong. :-)

If it was always the favorite who won, then we could stop watching the sport.

The predictions, is for me a very important part of the game.

Now where there is half time in 4th game with a spanish lead, the semifinals look likes this:

Germany-(USA-mexico) vs. Spain-(Corea-Italy)
Endland-(Brazil-Belgium) vs. Senegal-(Japan-Turkey)

The interesting is the last one. One of these 3 ARE going to the semi: Senegal, Turkey or Japan.

Who had that one before the WC startet !!!

Mexico is favorite to beat USA and if they win, they have a good chance against Germany.

So now I will say Brazil-Spain in the final.

If Italy beats Corea, it will a interesting quaterfinal between Italy and Spain (if the hold the last 45 minuts)

BR BN

Author: Ricardo
Date: 17-06-2002, 08:23

Monday morning, half the quarterfinals are known:
Germany-(USA-mexico) vs. Spain-(Corea-Italy)
Endland-(Brazil-Belgium) vs. Senegal-(Japan-Turkey)

Germany I haven't seen play well, so I hope they don't reach the final, Mexico, who surely will win from USA, can beat them, but the Germans keep being German.
Spain is the best team in the other quartes, but they do have a problem with the 'tournament-stress' and the history of never having reached a semi-fianl in 50 years.
England-Brazil could have been the final, were the scheme different, both teams earn a final-place(along with maybe 2 others). I hope for England, but I was impressed by Brazil the last game(against Turkey I was disappointed)
Finally the surprise-semifinalist. It all depends on who scores first in Turkey-Japan, but I hope it will be Japan, although I prefer Korea to end ahead of Japan.
So my semi's:
Germany-Spain (I'm too afraid of the Germans to put Mexico there)
England-Japan
And in my final still England beating Spain

Ricardo

Author: H-AAB-et
Date: 18-06-2002, 01:25

England-Brazil as a final. NEVER. England is the ultimate team of luck, even worse than Germany. They can not play ball. It is a scandale that there are in the final 8. With that play they have done sofare is not worthy a final 8 team. They create no chances what so ever. Unfortunately Brazil has a limited defense, but I sure wish tennis match result in that game. 6-0 to Brazil. That will be the day .. of joy.

Re: World Cup predictions
Author: fziakaa Date: 18-06-2002, 12:14	At this moment, QF is: Germany-USA Spain-(Korea-Italy) England-Brazil Senegal-Turkey my prediction is SF: Germany-Italy Brazil-Turkey and final: Germany-Turkey and the champion why not Turkey? The continent rule of world cup championship still remains since Turkey is in EurAsia

Author: jonyw
Date: 18-06-2002, 19:34

Oh dear, bad case of sour grapes there H-AAB-et, but come on, England worse than Deutschland - surely there's some irony tripping into your post.

Predictions. As the number of teams gets smaller this seems to become harder but:-

Germany bt USA
S Korea bt Spain
England bt Brazil, and how
Senegal bt Turkey

Then

Germany bt S Korea
England bt Senegal

and

England bt Germany, really easily.

As I wake up, I find that someone has deposited a large sum of money in my bank account, the object of my affections responds warmly to my advances and the Israelis and Palestinians simultaneously come up with mutually acceptable and genuinely helpful suggestions for a peace treaty.

Re: World Cup predictions
Author: porker Date: 18-06-2002, 23:13	nice one jonyw, good to see someones got a sense of humour.

Author: H-AAB-et
Date: 18-06-2002, 23:35

jonyw
Not really. In the first game agianst Sweden, I believe was a fair result. Should there have been a winner it should be Sweden. In the game vs. Argentina, thats is amazing how Argentina could avoid to score. They deserved to win. In the game vs. Nigeria, it was a sleep over. Perhaps, tactical okay, but not in gamecontrol and creativity.
In the 1/8 finals, the Danes made 3 error and England got 3 goals. Okay, the Danes was not able to penetrate the defense, so thats also a fair result. But England did not create chances, they did not control the midfield.
I now people would say, that a great defense and almost 100% use of chances is a good time. I don't. Not to a country like England (in size). The mentioned tactics is okay if you are a small country with 11 ballplayers. England got over 100 including worldclass stars.
Thats is why I have the attitude of England is not worthy as final 8.
But okay, since Corea, Germany, USA is there, so why not also England. hey just followedteh rules. :-)

BR BN

- my wish final is now: Spain vs. Brazil.
The Semi: Spain takes Germany. Brazil takes ???, maybe Tyrkey is a small favorite aginst Senegal, but it would be close, as the rest of the QF.

Author: Ricardo
Date: 19-06-2002, 08:35

H-AAB-et,

talking about teams who are not supposed to be there?
USA? a lucky win over Portugal and a tremendous lose from Poland. Definitely not
Spain? The arragonce that costed Italy its place almost cost Spain its place, Ireland should have won
Brasil? That's the uppermost arrogance. Referees and 1 glorious action have made Brasil go trough, but they do not deserve to be there. They can have fantastic actions, but they have this arrogance I don't like and I hope it will stop them.
Turkey got 1 early goal against Japan, but could not score a second time against a very poor Japan.
England won striding over Argentina, a terrible result-play agains Nigeria. They were lucky against the Danes with the first goal, but they proved to be the best by the other 2 goals, what neither Spain, Italy, nor Turkey could!
And you also still have Senegal: playing very hard and individual and Korea: with an extra-large heart, incredible, but better than Italy?
So, if you want to rule all of these out, what's left? Germany. Who wants Germany as a champion. Especially not the way they are playing. I hope they loose quickly from the USA. It's WW II all over again.

Summary:
It's a game, not always the teams that deserve to win win, referees are a big influence, and you need a good team that wants to win with a bit of extra(like Rivaldo, Ronaldo, Beckham) and a team that doesn't start defending when they are 1 up(like Italy, Spain, Turkey) to make a team look like a great team (in my eyes): that's England and Brasil. Other teams can win by fighting(Germany, Korea, Ireland), I like it when they make surprises, but in the end a great team should win the worldcup that are not as arragant as the Brasilians. So England stays for me the choise. Although I do like the madness of the Coreans.

As we can hope and pray what we like, WE are not on the field and can only watch, I surely will, how the ball rolls and turns.

A lot of pleasure with all the games to come

R.

Re: World Cup predictions
Author: jpcccc Date: 26-06-2002, 22:50	So now it's only up to Brazil to win it. However, i did not put some money on my prediction. Well, i'll never get to be rich anyway...